VN Unity Vox Gremory [R17] [Winterfire]

[Degarron]

ok I can tolerate mini games in this sort of thing but this many had to have slowed down development and more to the point WHY THE FUCK ARE THE SCORES YOU HAVE TO MEET TO EAR THESE POINT THINGS SO UNREASONABLY HIGH!!! it's irritating and I'm not here to get angry.

also to those that are complaining about having to read go to the site rule 34 if your not here for some kind of game be it a visual novel game or these... uh mini games ... (I still hate them but I get the temptation to put them in something like this I just don't think these fit the setting or add to the game enough to justify them.) then please leave.

 

[Winterfire]

ok I can tolerate mini games in this sort of thing but this many had to have slowed down development

Slowed down? Not at all. I update my project every month, in almost 7 years, I've never missed a single month.

I've also set my priorities straight, I know I am making a hentai game, and that's what I've always focused on... If you go a few pages back, even here, you'll see people asking me to please add the missing battles, that's because in the past a good part of the battles weren't available and skippable for free. Only after I added the hentai scenes for Asia and Rias I've spent some time to add the battles, although just a couple are still missing.

WHY THE FUCK ARE THE SCORES YOU HAVE TO MEET TO EAR THESE POINT THINGS SO UNREASONABLY HIGH!!! it's irritating and I'm not here to get angry.

All of the scores are things I got on the first try, they're humanly reachable at the very least. However, they're not a requirement for anything.

This game currently features 16 episodes just to cover the first volumes, as the game progresses, there'll be many more. Each episode is 1 point. If we add the points for sucking the heroines' tits, the gameplay time, etc. You'll have enough points to unlock all the scenes that will be available in the future. You don't have to 100% the achievement screen to get all the scenes.

I still hate them but I get the temptation to put them in something like this I just don't think these fit the setting or add to the game enough to justify them

They 100% fit the story, they're not randomly added. The delivery minigame happens in the source material, and stops being available when it does in the source. You even get Asia to ride with you when you're showing her the whole flyer job that she does for a brief amount of time. Also syncs with in-game weather, etc.

The sandbag minigame happens during the training phase, initially I wanted to put the pushups with Rias sitting on him (as it happens in the source material) but since I was doing that scene for the story, I wanted to do something similar but different for the minigame... Punching a bag to train his strength was close enough.

All of the other minigames have the same level of thought put behind them, but of course they're still that, minigames. Simple for anyone to play, and gamey because they're games. In the source material the protagonist won't stop punching if the timer goes down (there's no timer) and he won't drive at an insane speed to deliver flyers. There's a gamey/challenging aspect to it which isn't "realistic" but that's done purposely because it's a game.

 

[Degarron]

I know I wasn't exactly kind with how I said all that but I was mostly venting bruh also one of the scores you have to meet to earn an achievement and with it points is 10000 that's on the sandbag game I spent 3 hours trying to get that and didn't even hit 5000 I even learned that perfectly hitting the button when the bar is full gets you time back around 2 seconds and even aiming for that I couldn't do it in fact my score got lower doing that I shouldn't have to put in so much effort playing a visual novel let alone a porn novel that I get red in the face angry trying to enjoy part of that.

also that's good to hear I didn't know it was being updated monthly I'm actually really happy to hear that as I've enjoyed what I've read so far.

 

[ExaltedMidget]

Tsubaki is impossible as that would be NTR, at best I could make a separate game in future similarly to what I did with Grayfia to avoid NTR.

Momo and Kusaka are more possible since they gave up and are fully available, the issue is that they're "dirty" characters since they had a previous love interest who wasn't the protagonist (despite both being otherwise untouched), I usually use dirty characters to get rid of male characters without creating angst to free up good potential heroines (Such Ruruko with Saji to free up Sona). I don't currently have such plans with Momo and Kusaka right now, so unless this changes in future, I might do something with them.

However, the main focus is on the large quantity of good heroines, currently we're at the beginning of volume 5, and Rias/Asia already have 6 scenes each. I plan to keep adding scenes to them, but also have all future heroines have a roughly similar number of scenes, so realistically I might have my hands too full with the main cast of heroines, but we'll see.
When it comes to the near future, Akeno (3rd) and Xenovia (4th) will be next.


This game is a visual novel; However, it's not a pure one.
This game also features gameplay (RPG), the possibility to skip all the text, all the gameplay, and once unlocked (Seen them at least once) you can just replay the hentai from the gallery.

If you don't like text-heavy scenes, you can instead play another set of hentai content (Ecchi 3D) from the hub once you have confessed to the heroines (Currently, only Asia and Rias). Those scenes have near zero text and are animated.

With a little of patience, the game is designed to be flexible enough to be enjoyed by multiple types of people, but if you hate Visual Novels to the point that even this is too much grind, then I cannot help you as that'd be far out of the scope of this game.

Tsubaki is only NTR if Kiba defeats her Mirror, but what if when Saji put the line on Issei he summons Bowsette and she goes apeshit on Saji sense she has all of Bower power although she is faster and takes Saji down instantly by tearing his arms off, then Issei using his summons defeats Tsubaki mirror, and finally runs off to take down Sona before Rias show up and beats her, then Tsubaki will become attracted to Issei, instead of Kiba

 

[Winterfire]

I know I wasn't exactly kind with how I said all that but I was mostly venting bruh also one of the scores you have to meet to earn an achievement and with it points is 10000 that's on the sandbag game I spent 3 hours trying to get that and didn't even hit 5000 I even learned that perfectly hitting the button when the bar is full gets you time back around 2 seconds and even aiming for that I couldn't do it in fact my score got lower doing that I shouldn't have to put in so much effort playing a visual novel let alone a porn novel that I get red in the face angry trying to enjoy part of that.

also that's good to hear I didn't know it was being updated monthly I'm actually really happy to hear that as I've enjoyed what I've read so far.

You were good, as I've said before, I value any feedback. It's not a big issue as you think though because even now that achievements are missing, you can still easily unlock all the currently available scenes without too much effort.

I might rebalance things a bit if things change in future (Such as adding too many scenes with points being able to reach), I actively test the game myself, so if I feel something is too hard to reach and it's a meaningful part of the game, I will fix it.
This game is still in development, so nothing is set in stone when it comes to balancing.

 

[MattSS]

The new Rias Card minigame makes it really easy to grind levels.

 

[HulkSmash79]

I know this has been asked before, but I never found pocahontas #2 card. Supposed to be in asia's room but I can't find it anywhere over multiple versions of the game. I don't know if I'm just borked or am too stupid to find it. I would really appreciate if someone could upload a screenshot of where it is exactly. Thanks in advance.

 

[ExaltedMidget]

I know this has been asked before, but I never found pocahontas #2 card. Supposed to be in asia's room but I can't find it anywhere over multiple versions of the game. I don't know if I'm just borked or am too stupid to find it. I would really appreciate if someone could upload a screenshot of where it is exactly. Thanks in advance.

next her bedside cabinet the base board between her bed and bedside cabinet it is well hidden

 

[Winterfire]

I know this has been asked before, but I never found pocahontas #2 card. Supposed to be in asia's room but I can't find it anywhere over multiple versions of the game. I don't know if I'm just borked or am too stupid to find it. I would really appreciate if someone could upload a screenshot of where it is exactly. Thanks in advance.

First red circle, if you tab (or press the target button on android) it will highlight all the interactables.

The new Rias Card minigame makes it really easy to grind levels.

Asia's train option gives more experience, but it's also a diverse minigame. The idea is to ultimately have very diverse type of minigames that the player can decide to pursue to gain experience.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

So, been a while since I've received any feedback, especially from here.

I am curious to know if as of R16CU, you're happy with the amount of hentai scenes (5 for Rias, 5 for Asia, and 2 for Akeno) or wish there was more. I've added added 1 more each on R16S2 (The latest) making it 6 for Rias and 6 for Asia in total.
Obviously more sex scenes are always better, but I'm curious to know what exactly you'd like to see out of this game.

I'm mostly curious to hear from people who don't like my game, I believe I've addressed the issues in the current reviews, but unfortunately at this point they're outdated. Obviously they have to be things that can be realistically added, not the whole "issei this issei that".

i think the amount is fine. but i think you could up the quality of both the ecchi-3d and storybased H. not that either are bad, they are quite acceptable as they are imo. but i think you could aim for better if you sunk even more time into them both!

also on this topic i think you'd wanna move the unlocked ecchi-3d to the gallery tab too. anything people can fap to need to be all in one place imo. and with this suggestion in mind, i also suggest restructuring the gallery tab to have 3 different sub tabs. story CG (no lewds in them, XXX (story scenes, lewd story CGs, ecchi-3d), and lastly the bios.

btw there's a bug in the claw machine minigame (maybe the game in general? maybe could be a bugged download tho). the claw machine options does not properly resize when the window does. for me even full screen didn't allow me to see the button below release presumably to launch the claw.

 

[HulkSmash79]

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First red circle, if you tab (or press the target button on android) it will highlight all the interactables.




Asia's train option gives more experience, but it's also a diverse minigame. The idea is to ultimately have very diverse type of minigames that the player can decide to pursue to gain experience.

This is what I get when I tab. I even have an app that auto-clicks. I just have to move the pointer around. That IS the spot I have been clicking on for like the last 4 game versions but for some reason I get nothing. Is there anyway to edit a save to make it think I got the card?

 

[Winterfire]

This is what I get when I tab. I even have an app that auto-clicks. I just have to move the pointer around. That IS the spot I have been clicking on for like the last 4 game versions but for some reason I get nothing. Is there anyway to edit a save to make it think I got the card?

If it's not highlighting, it means you already have the card. Can you show the collectibles screen? (Red card button)
Cards are unlocked only once, then they persist in all the playthroughs similar to the gallery, gentlemen folder, etc.

 

[arkhamtheknight]

Is there any way of getting more FPs after using all ones earlier in the game or does the amount stop at some point?

 

[Winterfire]

i think the amount is fine. but i think you could up the quality of both the ecchi-3d and storybased H. not that either are bad, they are quite acceptable as they are imo. but i think you could aim for better if you sunk even more time into them both!

If you mean the graphics, I believe they've improved since the start, but it's unfortunately something that improves only with time. At the moment, I can't even imagine how they could look better, as they're already pretty anime-like.

also on this topic i think you'd wanna move the unlocked ecchi-3d to the gallery tab too. anything people can fap to need to be all in one place imo. and with this suggestion in mind, i also suggest restructuring the gallery tab to have 3 different sub tabs. story CG (no lewds in them, XXX (story scenes, lewd story CGs, ecchi-3d), and lastly the bios.

Gallery only contains unlockables, things you unlock once and keep forever... With the exception of collectibles since they're strictly tied to gameplay (summoning) and otherwise unrelated to the series, so they'd feel out of place with no context.

Ecchi 3D, in future Ecchi, and other categories that will be available in future are never "unlocked", they simply become available during a session if you meet a requirement (Achievement points, and in future relationship points for ecchi), so they cannot exist outside of the gameplay loop. If you were able to lose relationship points or achievement points, you'd lose access to those scenes... Of course that's not possible, so by all means, from the player's perspective they're "Unlocked".

As for separating them, I'll just add a category for "Scene Replayer" once more are added. Currently, some scenes that should be replayable are not, so it's still a Work In Progress.

btw there's a bug in the claw machine minigame (maybe the game in general? maybe could be a bugged download tho). the claw machine options does not properly resize when the window does. for me even full screen didn't allow me to see the button below release presumably to launch the claw.

That bug exists for all 3 minigames added in R16CU, they were all fixed on R16S2.

Is there any way of getting more FPs after using all ones earlier in the game or does the amount stop at some point?

FPs are rewarded in multiple ways... There's a small chance a minigame will reward you FPs, you can get up to 3 FPs in Nekoya Restaurant for each scene, you can win FPs by playing claw machine at the arcade, etc.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

If you mean the graphics, I believe they've improved since the start, but it's unfortunately something that improves only with time. At the moment, I can't even imagine how they could look better, as they're already pretty anime-like.

oh they have def improved since the start. but for specifics on how they can be better. the story based scenes can 'easily' be improved with 'still shot' animation(if that's even the right term lol). by making variant picture(s) and 'flipping' between the 2+ variant images you can do the old school method of animating. and it would fit in damn nicely with the 2d art style.

for a random example imagine you did this with akeno's blowjob to return issei's arm back to human. in still shot A where akeno is focused on the head you make 2 variants with akeno's tongue sticking out. variant A slightly on one side, and variant B the tongue sticking out the other side with the head tilted slightly. then you could have the still shots switch between them every second/other second or however you want the pacing to be.

as for the 3d, i don't know enough specifics to give suggestions. but i'll think on it, and if i find anymore KK like animations that do shit better that i can't explain how i'll DM you them.

Gallery only contains unlockables, things you unlock once and keep forever... With the exception of collectibles since they're strictly tied to gameplay (summoning) and otherwise unrelated to the series, so they'd feel out of place with no context.

Ecchi 3D, in future Ecchi, and other categories that will be available in future are never "unlocked", they simply become available during a session if you meet a requirement (Achievement points, and in future relationship points for ecchi), so they cannot exist outside of the gameplay loop. If you were able to lose relationship points or achievement points, you'd lose access to those scenes... Of course that's not possible, so by all means, from the player's perspective they're "Unlocked".

As for separating them, I'll just add a category for "Scene Replayer" once more are added. Currently, some scenes that should be replayable are not, so it's still a Work In Progress.

hmm, i get what your saying. but i think i need you to think of it from players perspective here. imagine the game's already finished and you as the player have completed everything. another IRL day passes and you're in the mood for DxD themed content. so you boot the game up for a fap session and go to the gallery soon to be scene replayer but the mostly still images aren't doing enough atm. so opt for the 3d ecchi and you're forced to load a saved game and go girl by girl until you find your sweet spot for the session. the reverse is also true as well. thus putting some annoyance on the player for needing to switch between a save file, and the gallery on main menu.

hypothetically you could solve half of this issue by making the gallery accessible while in game, but you'd still have the lingering issue of needing to switch rooms, click on them, then clicking the options you want for the 3d H. but that also brings about the issue of when someone doesn't have a save file at the hub, or has deleted their save file in favor of re-doing their run. thus loss of access to the 3d H until they redo everything. which means that keeping it all accessible via main menu gallery is just plain superior. *shrug* or at least it seems that way to me.

 

[Winterfire]

oh they have def improved since the start. but for specifics on how they can be better. the story based scenes can 'easily' be improved with 'still shot' animation(if that's even the right term lol). by making variant picture(s) and 'flipping' between the 2+ variant images you can do the old school method of animating. and it would fit in damn nicely with the 2d art style.

for a random example imagine you did this with akeno's blowjob to return issei's arm back to human. in still shot A where akeno is focused on the head you make 2 variants with akeno's tongue sticking out. variant A slightly on one side, and variant B the tongue sticking out the other side with the head tilted slightly. then you could have the still shots switch between them every second/other second or however you want the pacing to be.

Oh, I did that at the very beginning (Back in Workers of Kartedhir) and I hated it. I think a bad rough animation is worse than a good still CG, although I may be biased since I've played a lot of japanese games where still cgs are quite normal (or were, back in the day). I am aiming to learn Live2D, and that's what I'll be using for "Ecchi" category. So far, I have not been successful, but I am not giving up.

hmm, i get what your saying. but i think i need you to think of it from players perspective here. imagine the game's already finished and you as the player have completed everything. another IRL day passes and you're in the mood for DxD themed content. so you boot the game up for a fap session and go to the gallery soon to be scene replayer but the mostly still images aren't doing enough atm. so opt for the 3d ecchi and you're forced to load a saved game and go girl by girl until you find your sweet spot for the session. the reverse is also true as well. thus putting some annoyance on the player for needing to switch between a save file, and the gallery on main menu.

hypothetically you could solve half of this issue by making the gallery accessible while in game, but you'd still have the lingering issue of needing to switch rooms, click on them, then clicking the options you want for the 3d H. but that also brings about the issue of when someone doesn't have a save file at the hub, or has deleted their save file in favor of re-doing their run. thus loss of access to the 3d H until they redo everything. which means that keeping it all accessible via main menu gallery is just plain superior. *shrug* or at least it seems that way to me.

The game won't have a standard "Back to title menu" ending, it'll have some post ending content, so for that (and any other gameplay related hentai content) you'll need to load your save file. When it comes to gallery, that's just the standard and what any other game of mine had in the past, all the rest is just extra because DxD series is simply a goldmine of ecchi.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

Oh, I did that at the very beginning (Back in Workers of Kartedhir) and I hated it. I think a bad rough animation is worse than a good still CG, although I may be biased since I've played a lot of japanese games where still cgs are quite normal (or were, back in the day). I am aiming to learn Live2D, and that's what I'll be using for "Ecchi" category. So far, I have not been successful, but I am not giving up.

yep you're bias! but meh it was just an idea.

The game won't have a standard "Back to title menu" ending, it'll have some post ending content, so for that (and any other gameplay related hentai content) you'll need to load your save file. When it comes to gallery, that's just the standard and what any other game of mine had in the past, all the rest is just extra because DxD series is simply a goldmine of ecchi.

that's good to know, but will we be able to 'replay' or otherwise view the 2d CG of the story based H scenes while in game? because that's part of the issue i'm trying to address here with things not all being in one place for easy access.

 

[Winterfire]

yep you're bias! but meh it was just an idea.

I actually did a poll about it in the past: https://f95zone.to/threads/why-are-animations-important.53477/
The general consensus (including other similar threads made by other people) is that still CGs are better than bad animations, but good animations are better than still CGs.

I do hope I will succeed and make animations I am happy with, but realistically it'll be only for "Ecchi" category, doing that for the whole game would mean that I'd need to work on this game for the rest of my life

that's good to know, but will we be able to 'replay' or otherwise view the 2d CG of the story based H scenes while in game? because that's part of the issue i'm trying to address here with things not all being in one place for easy access.

Hm, I can add the "Gallery" option in the pause menu, would that work?

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

I actually did a poll about it in the past: https://f95zone.to/threads/why-are-animations-important.53477/
The general consensus (including other similar threads made by other people) is that still CGs are better than bad animations, but good animations are better than still CGs.

I do hope I will succeed and make animations I am happy with, but realistically it'll be only for "Ecchi" category, doing that for the whole game would mean that I'd need to work on this game for the rest of my life

that thread in particular seemed nearly 60/40 split to me in favor of static images. but yeah some of the more pro-ish animation people hit the nail on the head with it being a indicator of movement to help fuel the eroticism act that's being presented. personally i don't even count low frame slideshows as animations, although it technically counts since that's how they were first developed if i remember right. and that was closer to what i was suggesting with the 3-ish frames per CG suggestion. i was imagining like a half second to full second pause with their transitions too. *shrug*

i wonder if the picture vs animation debate has any relation to voyeurism kink. like maybe pro animation side needs it to feel like it's happening now before their eyes.

hmm, maybe simply extending the scenes with more lines of text, and adding the text to the replays would help increase their quality? maybe they just need more still shot CGs. not sure, but i'm pretty sure something could be done to improve those to some maybe subjective extent.

Hm, I can add the "Gallery" option in the pause menu, would that work?

that should help some. maybe once you do other people will poke you about it too.

 

[osama ali]

I actually did a poll about it in the past: https://f95zone.to/threads/why-are-animations-important.53477/
The general consensus (including other similar threads made by other people) is that still CGs are better than bad animations, but good animations are better than still CGs.

I do hope I will succeed and make animations I am happy with, but realistically it'll be only for "Ecchi" category, doing that for the whole game would mean that I'd need to work on this game for the rest of my life


Hm, I can add the "Gallery" option in the pause menu, would that work?

Why didn't U reply to my message winterfire