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VN Ren'Py Vulgar Reverie [v0.08] [Saxonado Studios]

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However, I wouldn't call it an ntr game like some dissenters have. To me it's just an ntrs game with a wet noodle of an mc, something I personally dislike.
I kind of do like the idea that MC gets his wife to get shared by him, she enjoys it, and then it spins completely out of his control.

I guess some people relate to the MC, or feel like they are the MC, I don't. I just like the idea that I'm slowly crushing the MC, stripping him of his boundaries and self respect, all while his wife comes to love owning him, and she slowly ends up seeing him as more of a lapdog than a man.

This sounds really fucked up when I actually express it in words.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Sep 7, 2022
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He's exactly that wet noodle in Amelia's presence, you might prefer it if dev moved the speech right after Geist made his threats and not after everything is done. When Geist threaten to ruin his marriage he wanted get back to him but once Amelia shows up he immediately shrunk down and changed topic, up until Amelia went back to the room. So... there you go,I have no comments on why he has to be that passive everytime whenever in her presence.

The dom/sub stats only matter a little to the dialogue variations rather than being different routes. Just imagine the dom route having MC puts Geist right in his place when he talk shit and having Amelia clueless to their exchange instead of having her to show up and interrupt them. And the current of what we had fit into the sub route . :unsure:
I'd certainly agree to the latter idea - if one had me imagine the current game as the default "sub route" game, it'd make a lot more sense. For the original speech it's not the placement/pacing of it so much as the overall tone- there's no reason to get all mealy mouthed once geist speaks bluntly.
I just like the idea that I'm slowly crushing the MC, stripping him of his boundaries and self respect, all while his wife comes to love owning him, and she slowly ends up seeing him as more of a lapdog than a man.
For me that kind of doormat MC isn't fun to either play as or witness as a third person. A common retort on these kinds of threads is 'just stop self inserting bro!' - I don't want to read a story from the third person about a sad sack and his sad life - that's no slight on you or anyone who would enjoy such a story; one could prefer the proverbial classic comedy or classic tragedy.
I think it was reasonable to be a wet noodle. This isn't a battle hardened cuck/stag/whatever it's a dude still taking his first steps in this, and he was having severe cold feet about the whole thing. That's the kind of attitude you'd expect from a man used to dogging or something of the sort, not a guy trying this for the first time.

All three of them were amateurs at this, I felt it was fine. Besides, find me consistent examples of NTRase MC's belittling the "chad" archetype characters.
Except the final scene wasn't at odds with his early personality. A nerdrage moment isn't at all inconsistent with the personality of the passive loser. What WOULD have been jarring (and I would have loved) is if he snapped out of his shell for a moment as was like "Look Geist, you're here because we want you to be here. You feel like a stuntcock because you are a stuntcock."

His personality can't just be chalked up to inexperience - I found some of his alone time interactions with Amel (totally unrelated to anything sexual or wife sharing) to be super cringey. This is not a cooldude. "Expansion porn"? really? If anyone heard that IRL they'd be like gtfo of here nerd... He doesn't need to be mr suave; but don't try and convince me he's some average joe.
 

SlapE

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Dec 4, 2022
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I'm not going to go too in-depth on this, cause whenever I go on full on rants I tend to go overboard. So I'll just say this much...

I agree the MC could be better, definitely not one of my favorite NTS MC's, but definitely not one of the worst I've seen either.
I've seen ACTUAL 'doormat' MC's, and the MC in this game isn't comparable to those MC's at all. (At least on the route that isn't focused on submissiveness/humiliation)

It's still early days, and the Geist guy is part of a crime family, not just any crime family, but a crime family related to his (MC's) very own wife. If he says the wrong thing to Geist, it could end up backfiring for him badly, the dude likely wasn't kidding when he said he could kill the MC and make him disappear without a trace. I agree that the MC needs to better establish boundaries, but I disagree that the ending made him look weak or like a doormat, considering the circumstances. I think it was a good start, and hopefully next update there will be clear boundaries established, and overtime on the "dom/assertive" path, we will see the MC continue to become more confident and also a heightened self-esteem.

This game's MC, and also the setup for the NTS, have been much better than a lot of NTS games I've come across. It ain't perfect, and the MC could be better, but at this point the bar feels pretty low for NTS games and I quite enjoy this one. Relative to most of the NTS shit that comes out, it's pretty damn good.
 

Eduran

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Unfortunately, there seems to be a misunderstanding between the author of this game and its audience. I understand the author's desire to maintain tension and evoke a range of emotions as we interact with the story. However, in my opinion, the author has made a mistake. The action unfolds too quickly and in too "wild" a style.

I don't mean that the main protagonist and his wife should have a five-hour segment assuring each other of their fidelity and love, interspersed with flashbacks about how they met.

The game advertises itself as netorase, where a partner, with the consent and knowledge of their significant other, has sex with someone else. However, we have a situation where the main protagonist's wife spends the night reading about cuckolding and then decides, seemingly at random, by trial and error, what and in what quantities she will give her husband in this matter. This happens without a mature discussion about what they both want and agree on.

Some may prefer this "wild", more spontaneous style, but I believe the audience looking for netorase would expect a more "civilized" approach. Communicating with glances and half-words might be more exciting, but personally, I wouldn't risk my marriage and love on the hope that everyone will perfectly understand what the other person means in the moment.

It seems we have an arc where Geist becomes our best friend, despite his threats to kill us after his ego was damaged because our wife did not look at him 100% of the time when he fingered her. Maybe if this were a netorare story, this character would fit better. But in netorase, this approach feels out of place for the audience, or at least for the part I belong to.

I hope the next update takes a different direction from 0.05. While it’s not a perfect visual novel, it has the potential to be at the top. And I, along with many others, can't wait to see this potential.
 

Enlight432

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Unfortunately, there seems to be a misunderstanding between the author of this game and its audience. I understand the author's desire to maintain tension and evoke a range of emotions as we interact with the story. However, in my opinion, the author has made a mistake. The action unfolds too quickly and in too "wild" a style.

I don't mean that the main protagonist and his wife should have a five-hour segment assuring each other of their fidelity and love, interspersed with flashbacks about how they met.

The game advertises itself as netorase, where a partner, with the consent and knowledge of their significant other, has sex with someone else. However, we have a situation where the main protagonist's wife spends the night reading about cuckolding and then decides, seemingly at random, by trial and error, what and in what quantities she will give her husband in this matter. This happens without a mature discussion about what they both want and agree on.

Some may prefer this "wild", more spontaneous style, but I believe the audience looking for netorase would expect a more "civilized" approach. Communicating with glances and half-words might be more exciting, but personally, I wouldn't risk my marriage and love on the hope that everyone will perfectly understand what the other person means in the moment.

It seems we have an arc where Geist becomes our best friend, despite his threats to kill us after his ego was damaged because our wife did not look at him 100% of the time when he fingered her. Maybe if this were a netorare story, this character would fit better. But in netorase, this approach feels out of place for the audience, or at least for the part I belong to.

I hope the next update takes a different direction from 0.05. While it’s not a perfect visual novel, it has the potential to be at the top. And I, along with many others, can't wait to see this potential.
I cursed at Geist, my post was deleted, it is illegal to curse fictional characters in games ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

My previous post with a little edit:
I totally agree with you, everything was great until Geist came into the story, even fmc is hiding things about him
 

Rastafoo

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On July 28th, the author posted to his discord recapping the events of 0.05 and confirming the beach update for 0.06. The Author mentions striving to improve the writing to better convey the impression they were shooting for.

Anyways - THE BEACH UPDATE IS COMING AUGUST 9TH!
 

Hmong-sama

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This VN is such a fucking masterpiece. Geist did come out rough but I feel like he'll be a good dude in the future story of this game. It's character progresssion imo that is.
 
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Cairenan

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Absoloutely PEAK pure netorase! Finally a developer that realises that just because a guy wants to be submissive and get humiliated and cucked with consent in the bedroom doesnt mean he has to be a spineless loser outside it! This game is absolutely amazing and I hope it continues in the same way!
 

Turret

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For me that kind of doormat MC isn't fun to either play as or witness as a third person. A common retort on these kinds of threads is 'just stop self inserting bro!' - I don't want to read a story from the third person about a sad sack and his sad life - that's no slight on you or anyone who would enjoy such a story; one could prefer the proverbial classic comedy or classic tragedy.
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Agree with you 100%! But then again, our taste is similar so little wonder. :) ;) One of my pet peeves is that so many games get ruined by Devs caving to the NTR crowd and insert "Tension", doormat characters, bullies you should shoot on sight and cheater assholes, which should be kicked out at first opportunity.

If I want "tension" and reading about the sad fate of far too many people, I take the newspaper! I want my eroges to have emotional hard-ons and soaking wet pussies, with the characters having fun doing it. Fun romance, sharing and swinging!
 
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