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Good thing I didn't played it yet. Is that girl one of the li? Not really fan of rape, especially group rape.
I would still recommend it (as long as you dont put money in it). The "rape" is literally just the MC fucking another character without them knowing (but they're into it). The other ones, as I recall, are all just a dominating thing with girls who're into it. I don't think I saw any "realistic" depictions of rape in this game and no group rape either. But I haven't played it for like 2 years which means I might've forgot some things.
 
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He's still a teenager, and it's only a BJ if I remember things right. Note that nothing has been said about what happened in between then and now, so who knows?
If someone forces you to receive a blowjob it's rape. It doesn't matter what's the relationship between you and the person who gives you the blowie. The other person can be a victim too but it's still rape by the person who forces you. In this case it's this motherfucker of pimp (don't know his name anymore) from his neighbour. And now you mentioned it, MC was a teenager, so it's child molesting. This made Waifu Acadamy to game which contains underage pornography. The chlid porn tag should be added in the OP. Hmm, is chipo allowed at Patreon?
 

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That description is vastly oversimplified, but yea, there are several instances of you taking advantage of girls, mostly under the effect of some lust drug, it sounds (and ethically is) worse than what is actually played as, but some instances may be a turn-off, almost all of the girls in the game are potential love interests, including the both mentioned.

With the girl in the subway, you can avoid it, but the game does allow the situation to go right up to before the point of no return for the girl, you can either let it play for a bad end, or intervene by guilt and save her.

And Yoko is mostly a long-awaited payback (it is a story about revenge after all), and now that I think about it, that Yoko scene is the only double penetration in the whole game, which you can avoid by the way, depending on how you tread the route there.

Going on a hunch, here is a list of a few other scenes that may help you decide whether or not it is a game you want to play, is not complete since I made it a bit over two years ago, so is quite literally 4/5 updates behind good grief.

About the bestiality, is just a dog giving some licks to a girl... before you go and rape her on a window, leaving her thinking it was the dog (again, it sounds worse than what is played, but still...).


He's still a teenager, and it's only a BJ if I remember things right. Note that nothing has been said about what happened in between then and now, so who knows?


Remember, you can't be disappointed if you have no expectations.
And why doesn't this have Ntr tag then? Not gonna lie reading some of that gives heavy Ntr and sharing kink vibes. It seems like this game have alot of fucked up contents and girls seems like bunch of whores with whom you can form a relationship with. :HideThePain:
 

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And why doesn't this have Ntr tag then? Not gonna lie reading some of that gives heavy Ntr and sharing kink vibes.
Read the fucking tag description. It doesn't matter which vibe you get from reading about it. Only the tag rules matters.
 

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Read the fucking tag description. It doesn't matter which vibe you get from reading about it. Only the tag rules matters.
So, you are telling me that a love interest getting raped in subway is not netorare? Or hooker who fucked another men than raped MC also doesn't fall under it? Then again I didn't played this game which is probably why it odd rn. Meh, you do you but I think most people would like to know what the game is about or what content it have lmfao.
 

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That description is vastly oversimplified, but yea, there are several instances of you taking advantage of girls, mostly under the effect of some lust drug, it sounds (and ethically is) worse than what is actually played as, but some instances may be a turn-off, almost all of the girls in the game are potential love interests, including the both mentioned.

With the girl in the subway, you can avoid it, but the game does allow the situation to go right up to before the point of no return for the girl, you can either let it play for a bad end, or intervene by guilt and save her.

And Yoko is mostly a long-awaited payback (it is a story about revenge after all), and now that I think about it, that Yoko scene is the only double penetration in the whole game, which you can avoid by the way, depending on how you tread the route there.

Going on a hunch, here is a list of a few other scenes that may help you decide whether or not it is a game you want to play, is not complete since I made it a bit over two years ago, so is quite literally 4/5 updates behind good grief.

About the bestiality, is just a dog giving some licks to a girl... before you go and rape her on a window, leaving her thinking it was the dog (again, it sounds worse than what is played, but still...).


He's still a teenager, and it's only a BJ if I remember things right. Note that nothing has been said about what happened in between then and now, so who knows?


Remember, you can't be disappointed if you have no expectations.
Thanks for the head up dude, I think I have to ignore this one.
 

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I would still recommend it (as long as you dont put money in it). The "rape" is literally just the MC fucking another character without them knowing (but they're into it). The other ones, as I recall, are all just a dominating thing with girls who're into it. I don't think I saw any "realistic" depictions of rape in this game and no group rape either. But I haven't played it for like 2 years which means I might've forgot some things.
I think there is group rape of nameless NPCs though but I could be misremembering.
 

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If someone forces you to receive a blowjob it's rape. It doesn't matter what's the relationship between you and the person who gives you the blowie. The other person can be a victim too but it's still rape by the person who forces you. In this case it's this motherfucker of pimp (don't know his name anymore) from his neighbour. And now you mentioned it, MC was a teenager, so it's child molesting. This made Waifu Acadamy to game which contains underage pornography. The chlid porn tag should be added in the OP. Hmm, is chipo allowed at Patreon?
When did I say it wasn't rape? I was correcting your statement, the "MC is forced to fuck a hooker", which is a different situation from the "MC is forced to receive a BJ", some people may be ok with certain situations and not others in fantasy, even if both are, in reality, morally wrong.
And no, is not allowed on Patreon, that's why the vast majority of these games avoid mentioning ages at all or come with the caveat that "these are totally 18 or older characters(even if they're not)". But here's a hint, if the setting is a Japanese school AND your characters wear uniforms, they will most likely be under 18 years old, and for this particular game, unless the MC and everyone else in his classroom have repeated years twice, I'd say they are 15~17, as you are expected to turn 18 during your 3rd year of High Scool, the last year where students are required to wear uniforms.
And there is no such tag in the forum, the best you'll get is "loli/shota", which (in this forum) is about the physical aspect of a character, nothing about its age. There is however a rule about it, No.7, which you are free to discuss there.

And why doesn't this have Ntr tag then? Not gonna lie reading some of that gives heavy Ntr and sharing kink vibes. It seems like this game have alot of fucked up contents and girls seems like bunch of whores with whom you can form a relationship with. :HideThePain:
I think it has been added in the past but it keeps getting removed, but don't quote me on that, even if I think is well deserved. For the most part, they're not all whores (some are thou), but mostly, is because of a drug that makes them susceptible so to speak; The game is supposed to have three routes once completed, Hi, Neutral, and Low karma, as of now, the neutral path is the only one available, so you'll be balancing from one side to the other, as to whether the other routes will ever happen, well, I'm not even sure if the current one will be even finished.

Read the fucking tag description. It doesn't matter which vibe you get from reading about it. Only the tag rules matters.
You should read the tag rules as well:
  • Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
In the case of NTR, it does matter what vibe you get from reading it. The problem this tag has is that it can be quite vague, it doesn't specify if it is the player or the MC the one that should feel jealous, and neither does specify in which way or to which degree the LI needs to be involved with someone else.

If you happen to like Minami, the subway scene, even when interrupted, will certainly warrant the tag.
With Inori & Faris, although not aware of it, from the player's pov, she is involved with him in a scene, designed precisely to make you, the player, jealous and hate him, same for Takamura.
And there's the Sheila & Kensou scene, although he did nothing to her, Sheila acted like the guy did came all over her, with the explicit intention of making the MC jealous.
As you can see, the rule can be very open to interpretation.

There are several scenes that may be a problem depending on a person's tolerances, so I dare say at this point the tag is more than justified, it is also reasonable for potential players to ask the specifics about it since the tag alone doesn't tell you what kind of that content is present, only that there is something related to it. Regardless, if you don't want to answer it again, that's fine, just ignore it, there's no need to be rude about it.

So, you are telling me that a love interest getting raped in subway is not netorare? Or hooker who fucked another men than raped MC also doesn't fall under it? Then again I didn't played this game which is probably why it odd rn. Meh, you do you but I think most people would like to know what the game is about or what content it have lmfao.
Most of these scenes sound worse than what they are played, as for the subway scene, it was the MC that willingly made it happen, but then he got guilty so he intervened, but it was very obvious, even from before it started, what was going to happen.
With the hooker, is quite unlikely she will become a LI, the whole ordeal was in a flashback after all, also, she's a hooker, so you know...

Thanks for the head up dude, I think I have to ignore this one.
To each their own I say, there's a thing or two that are right on my limit as well.

I think there is group rape of nameless NPCs though but I could be misremembering.
The only scene that comes to mind is that of a TV news report about a scandal with an idol group, for which they then proceeded to show a video, uncensored and on what I assume is a nationwide broadcast, of a group of three idols getting gang banged and begging for more, the only reason the MC knows they were getting raped, is because you recognized a drug you used, laying in a table on the video. But they are quite inconsequential to you as of now, even if you know people that are related to them.
 

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Dude, this girl isn't a "romantic interest" at that moment of the game. In fact MC hates her at that point of the game. So fuck it...
I'm not talking exclusively about her, and that's another uncertainty with the rule, plenty of characters do not start as LI in these games, but as a player, you can pretty much get a good guess who will be.
 

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I'm not talking exclusively about her, and that's another uncertainty with the rule, plenty of characters do not start as LI in these games, but as a player, you can pretty much get a good guess who will be.
Listen, pal, it all doesn't matters. Have you ever played this game? At first MC is a sociopath. Every girl and woman in this AVN is just a tool for him and not a person. Second, at the moment where the rapists wants to fuck this girl MC has only one interest in her: maximum damage. He was the one who caused this situation. And last but not least, if you don't want her to be raped, just stop that.
 

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Listen, pal, it all doesn't matters. Have you ever played this game? At first MC is a sociopath. Every girl and woman in this AVN is just a tool for him and not a person. Second, at the moment where the rapists wants to fuck this girl MC has only one interest in her: maximum damage. He was the one who caused this situation. And last but not least, if you don't want her to be raped, just stop that.
Just a minor cut-in: MC views only the girls related to his revenge as tools (like the journalist's daughter). And iirc, the train rape was meant to scare the girl and then have the MC save the day... or something like that. But yeah, if you don't like it, step in and stop it.
 

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The vague or interpretable meaning of the NTR tag isn't really the problem with the tag. It's the fact that no matter how specific or ambiguous you define it to be, it will never succeed in answering all players what they want to know with regards to that topic because each player has its own criteria: From the way they choose "who is a love interest and who isn't" to "what situations make them uncomfortable". So, there's no way a tag can successfully answer the kind of questions it's supposed to answer.

People, no matter what, will need to ask in the forum what situations occur in the game that could or could not warrant the NTR tag and then with a more game-specific answer, choose for themselves.

The way I see it, the NTR tag should not exist, so that no one could infer a specific meaning from it and get to the wrong conclusion about a specific game having or not having the tag.
 

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The vague or interpretable meaning of the NTR tag isn't really the problem with the tag. It's the fact that no matter how specific or ambiguous you define it to be, it will never succeed in answering all players what they want to know with regards to that topic because each player has its own criteria: From the way they choose "who is a love interest and who isn't" to "what situations make them uncomfortable". So, there's no way a tag can successfully answer the kind of questions it's supposed to answer.
Very much this. And not helped by the fact that some devs will deliberately give vague or misleading answers when asked either out of a desire to "avoid spoilers" or because they know full well that the truth will drive away potential players.

The easiest solution would be if devs just outright learned to specify up front whether a game was going to have scenes like that, and whether they'd be mandatory/skippable/avoidable/etc, but even then you run into the problem of definitions (Does it count if it's lesbians? Does it count if someone isn't a LI at the time? Does it count if someone is never going to be a LI? Does it count if you're being NTR'd by your future self?). Not to mention many devs have absolutely no idea where their stories are going to go when they start working on the game, so they can't really predict every possible tag in advance.

Which is why there's always going to be NTR questions/talk in almost any given game thread, because it's not as intuitive as just slapping a "gay men being gay" or "weird foot fetish" tag on a game so people who aren't into that know whether or not a game is for them, or if they should just move on.


The way I see it, the NTR tag should not exist, so that no one could infer a specific meaning from it and get to the wrong conclusion about a specific game having or not having the tag.
I honestly never look at it as is. Whenever I see a game that looks interesting I just do a quick search of the thread so far to see how many people have brought up NTR asking about it or complaining about it to get a feel for whether or not it's in the game and if so what kind. Just like whenever I see a "female protagonist" game I immediately search "lesbian" to see if there's a dedicated lesbian route or if the game is just another "watch the female lead get repeatedly raped and corrupted" deal.

Plus honestly, half the purpose of the tags is so that people who ARE interested in a specific fetish can go looking for games that have it - but because NTR is such a mess when it comes to classification, it means NTR fans have a hard time searching for NTR games. Because they follow the tags to games that don't really give them the sort of NTR experience they actually want (which in turn makes them complain about anti-NTR people whining, and just adds more fuel to the whole argument all over again).

Tags are a tool. Sometimes they can help give an idea what's in a game, but some tags aren't that helpful or informative at all. And honestly, people should get used to looking at the "Genre" and "Developer's Notes" section (and more devs should get used to posting them and clearly outlining their intentions in them). More descriptive posts are way better for advertising content than tags.
 

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The vague or interpretable meaning of the NTR tag isn't really the problem with the tag. It's the fact that no matter how specific or ambiguous you define it to be, it will never succeed in answering all players what they want to know with regards to that topic because each player has its own criteria: From the way they choose "who is a love interest and who isn't" to "what situations make them uncomfortable". So, there's no way a tag can successfully answer the kind of questions it's supposed to answer.

People, no matter what, will need to ask in the forum what situations occur in the game that could or could not warrant the NTR tag and then with a more game-specific answer, choose for themselves.

The way I see it, the NTR tag should not exist, so that no one could infer a specific meaning from it and get to the wrong conclusion about a specific game having or not having the tag.
To be fair, the "NT" part always means the same thing (NeTo), but not the "R" part (Ri/Rare/Rase). That's 3 different fetishes, all shortened to the same letter. No way that wouldn't cause confusion and dissatisfaction.
 
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And not helped by the fact that some devs will deliberately give vague or misleading answers when asked either out of a desire to "avoid spoilers" or because they know full well that the truth will drive away potential players.
Yeah... no possibility the dev really don't want to spoil the story. They refuse to answer those question only to annoy the crowd. Seems legit.
The easiest solution would be if devs just outright learned to specify up front whether a game was going to have scenes like that, and whether they'd be mandatory/skippable/avoidable/etc, but even then you run into the problem of definitions (Does it count if it's lesbians? Does it count if someone isn't a LI at the time? Does it count if someone is never going to be a LI? Does it count if you're being NTR'd by your future self?). Not to mention many devs have absolutely no idea where their stories are going to go when they start working on the game, so they can't really predict every possible tag in advance.
You know the most devs didn't even on this board and they don't care about the tag rules of a piracy board? Why should any dev specify a tag where even the crowd can't decide which definition counts.
Which is why there's always going to be NTR questions/talk in almost any given game thread, because it's not as intuitive as just slapping a "gay men being gay" or "weird foot fetish" tag on a game so people who aren't into that know whether or not a game is for them, or if they should just move on.
No, the discussions don't start with the NTR fetish crowd. It's the fragile anti-NTR-brigade who permanently asks "is there NTR? is it avoidable?" It's so annoying, because it's the best way to derail a thread. After these questions (which one could look up with the search function and get all the answers) in 90% of the time it starts a debate about what's NTR and what not. Like this shit here. It's all because there some virgins out there who are such snowflakes they can't bear with woman having sex without their alter ego.

There's only one way to stop this cancer: remove the NTR tag generally, ban the word NTR like they did it with the word childporn (q.e.d) and ban all the dudes who starts a discussion about it.



But, dudes, could we get back to topic now? It's about Waifu Academy, which doesn't contain NTR in the meaning of the F95 tag rules, and only that rules count on F95. And it's about Irphaeus the master of the milky way who managed it to empty his cows on Patreon with a game which clearly offends several rules of Patreon. There some topics about this game we could discuss. The incel behavior of MC for example.
 

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half the purpose of the tags is so that people who ARE interested in a specific fetish can go looking for games that have it .
That's another problem. The "half" purpose, I mean. Tags are being used in two different ways, so a tag might be applicable in one sense and not applicable in the other.

I would restrict the tags to inform about general topics or focus of the game:
- NTR tag should mean the game revolves around NTR situations.
- Female protagonist tag should mean the game is near always played from the POV of a woman.

Otherwise, the tags are misleading:
- NTR tag just because there's 1 situation where NTR might be applicable among hundreds of other situations?
- Female protagonist tag just because there's a minor scene where the POV changes to that of a woman?

It's ridiculous.

Waifu Academy doesn't revolve around NTR content and therefore it shouldn't have that tag.

But, dudes, could we get back to topic now?
It's been months since the last update, most people have already said and discussed whatever they were interested in saying and discussing, so it's... complicated.
 
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It's been months since the last update, most people have already said and discussed whatever they were interested in saying and discussing, so it's... complicated.
That's the problem with a game where a dev make huuuuuge updates with biiiiiiig amount of content once a year and all you get is... wait... what did the simps get in the last update? There wasn't anything to progress the story.

Anyway, one can discuss many things about the game not just the "content" of the last update. But if there's nothing to say, we don't have to write anything.
 
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