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MiHawkins

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"The hell" is called F95 rules. This game has to be 18 months without updates or a statement from the dev about it's abandoned.
I agree with the "abandoned" tag policy. Maybe the solution would be to more accurate: Its development stage isn't "abandoned" it's "milking". That should be the right tag to put.
 
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Tremonia

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I agree with the "abandoned" tag policy. Maybe the solution would be to more accurate: Its development stage isn't "abandoned" it's "milking". That should be the right tag to put.
Who decides what is "milking" and what not? How do we prove this in which cases?

No, bud, there's only one way: don't pledge a dev if you think it's not worth. I don't know about these Irphaeus guy and I give a shit about him. I once played this thing and now I watch from time to time if there's an update. But it's more anoying to read all this whining about allegedly "milking" as to see there's no update. Maybe this dude is milking his Patreons. Who gives a shit? It's not my money. If I pledge a dev I made sure I pay only what's worth to me. Not a single Cent more. If a work is abandoned I only have paid for what I got.

I think the most fappys here are salty because they like the game for a reason and wished it will go on. But cards on the table: why should this thing go on? The graphics are shit. So it can only be the story. But really? The story is the only thing why I'm looking once in a while but it's not that good to be a crybaby when the abandon tag comes.
 

Tsugumi

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Tremonia Precisely the reason I never SUBSCRIBESTARed/PATREONed/whatevered to any game developer, with one exception: "is what I have NOW worth the TOTAL I paid for?". Never understood the appeal of buying promises. And yes, dumbed-down, this way is pretty much "buying the unfinished product".

To take away the support: about "who decides what is "milking"" - the same people that decide what is "abandoned". Since the latter has no clearly-defined criteria - at least, as far as the general community is concerned -, the decision is clearly, to a degree, subjective. Would it not be fair to make the same subjective call about the former, as well?
 

traplover19

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walktrough mod is not working(mega is broken) also lain seem to be under review and given patreon being patreon
i hope this does not mean what i think it means
 

ramvivat

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NTR ?
WHERE?
yes in the train with the kitty-reporter (sorry forgot her name), avoidable - reporter been mistakely catched by thugs as Yoko-Caramella, thugs which helps MC "execute" (you need untouched in conversation with police officer Keiko purple-colored drug) Yoko-Caramella at home hehe...
also in the begin of the story - on the roof of the academy - guy and the class-bitch (another forgotten name sorry)

why I say about this scene that she is also an NTR - judging by their conversations in the gym after the MC broke his phone, she sympathizes with the MC, that is, later she, too, will very likely be part of his harem. which means that this can also be conditionally considered as an NTR scene.

I still remember the semi-NTR scene when MC, also at the beginning of the story, MC stuck his cock in the bathroom through a hole in the wall and his mother blindly used it, as if it were a dildo cast of her husband. that is, on the one hand, it was mother-son-incest, but on the other hand, it was mother's sex with her husband's deputy (because the mother thought that she was satisfied with the help of the dildo donated by her husband) but since the mother is also an important part of the harem * then the mother's sex with a non-MC is nothing but an NTR.

theorem proven! =)

*(hell, find at least one incest harem story where the mother would not take her place in the harem? this is a fetish fetish fetish. also a superfetish - a mother pregnant from her son - and this will also be, because it was spoiled - when the mother overheard her son, dressed in a housekeeper costume "yes, my lord, I give birth to you as many children as you need" - not literally, but in meaning . as well as a threesome from a son, his mother and his sister)

UPD: in the 9.8 pt 1 update in the train is avoidable NTR-scene with unknown perv and mother of MC.

shit! how many NTR in this story hehe...
 

Tremonia

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yes in the train with the kitty-reporter
Are you kidding me? This should be NTR? Well, I'm not an expert and might be wrong because I've never understood why some fragile furry fuckers are frightened to hell if they see those three letters and have never give a shit about NTR. But wasn't it like the protagonist have to be in a relationship with the affected part? At this moment in the train he's not with her. Strictly speaking he is never with her in a relationship so far we can see.
also in the begin of the story - on the roof of the academy - guy and the class-bitch (another forgotten name sorry)
You mean this Kajane bitch? Same as with this cat girl. No relationship.
I still remember the semi-NTR scene when MC, also at the beginning of the story, MC stuck his cock in the bathroom through a hole in the wall and his mother blindly used it, as if it were a dildo cast of her husband.
If the main protagonist were the hubby of MC's mom you could call it NTR. But since NTR is only some weird incel double standard it's only cheating.
 
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MiHawkins

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Who decides what is "milking" and what not? How do we prove this in which cases?

No, bud, there's only one way: don't pledge a dev if you think it's not worth. I don't know about these Irphaeus guy and I give a shit about him. I once played this thing and now I watch from time to time if there's an update. But it's more anoying to read all this whining about allegedly "milking" as to see there's no update. Maybe this dude is milking his Patreons. Who gives a shit? It's not my money. If I pledge a dev I made sure I pay only what's worth to me. Not a single Cent more. If a work is abandoned I only have paid for what I got.

I think the most fappys here are salty because they like the game for a reason and wished it will go on. But cards on the table: why should this thing go on? The graphics are shit. So it can only be the story. But really? The story is the only thing why I'm looking once in a while but it's not that good to be a crybaby when the abandon tag comes.
It looks to me like the only salty one are you, "bud".

A "milking" tag wouldn't be any more arbitrary than an "abandoned" tag. More specific tags means more accurate information which leads to better guesses regarding the worth of pledging to a dev. What problem do you have with making easier and more efficient the method that you called "the only one way"?

It's ironic that you come here to complain about the people that "whine" here. First of all, it really annoys you, I have another "only way" for you: Don't read the comments. You don't need to to know whether there's been an update. But at least the people "whining" about the milking are doing it in the game's thread. If you really want to whine about the people commenting here, go and make a specific thread for that, because you're off topic here.

Tremonia said:
Maybe this dude is milking his Patreons. Who gives a shit? It's not my money.
Wow. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but this forum is not to present only the information you deem useful for you alone. Hence, there's people here that give a shit, yes. It's their money. The tags help the users know the developmental stage of the project. And it's been noted by many users that there are stages at which they would not fund the project the same way they wouldn't if it were abandoned but that the tag system of the forum fails to ascertain.

I just proposed a solution for that and you, for some reason, needed to whine against it. I guess mine is a good solution under your own terms seeing that you were a crybaby in its absence
 
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