VN Ren'Py Waifu Academy [v0.13.0] [Irphaeus]

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Nixi~

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Its not really a good idea if you're relying on a robot to finish a piece of art.
You loose the originality that comes from telling a human story, It might result in more generic solutions to a story climax or even plainer or more predictable endings. Just flat out lazy.
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So if you come up with an idea, and Chat GPT also comes up with that idea, is your idea now lesser? After all Chat GPT came up with it too, it musts mean it's generic, plain, predictable or even flat out lazy. I understand your concerns, but you're at the point of fearmongering simply because of your distaste for AI.
 
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Nixi~ said:
So if you come up with an idea, and Chat GPT also comes up with that idea, is your idea now lesser? After all Chat GPT came up with it too, it musts mean it's generic, plain, predictable or even flat out lazy. I understand your concerns, but you're at the point of fearmongering simply because of your distaste for AI.
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Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. Whether this story is written by a robot, AI, Chat GPT or by Stephen King or any other creature of flesh and blood ... I don't care. I want to read an exciting, sexy and spicy story and in case it is written by a protozoon or by someone with an IQ of 220 is of no importance to me. Give us a great, hot story with gorgeous girls and my worship will be yours. :D
 
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smh.... dev complaint about the pay again. after silent and no update expect pay again after a update only few cg scene. now only 65% done with 5months period. these game is cooked. I'm surprise the game is not abandon.
 
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Maybe i can give some more insight on the use of AI in the game, i work on editing and the official walkthrough.

Storyboard:
The storyboard is done by Irphaeus and its very sexual and sometimes violent nature wont be able to be done by AI, at least by the models i know. Also the story is now well on its way into the last third and how would an AI finish that while making sense. So no use there.

Images:
Images are done by Irphaeus and now in addition by two part-timers, so there should be a speed up in image creation. To keep the spirit of the Honey Select engine AI won't be used in the middle of the games creation, especially again because of the sexual nature of the game. The only use of AI is to touch up some very few images, especially close ups, to look more "realistic". Maybe you can spot those in the later updates.

Music:
AI will probably be used in this field more heavily in the future, since not all free music is fitting and it's not an important part of the game.

Writing:
Feeding an AI with the storyboard could work, but then lots of the humor and sassiness would be lost. Which is in my opinion one of the biggest draws of the game. All of the text is written by a medical doctor in hsi free time, so all of his knowledge and 'foreign words" would be lost as well. I tried AI for editing but it just spat out nonsense most of the time, especiallybecause the writing is already embedded in the text code for the VN.

So music and some rare art is touched by AI, but all the other parts won't really work without a heavy time investment.
 
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An AI cannot create art. It can only steal and repurpose or reassemble it. Those who use a generator and claim to be an ARTIST are just thieves and liars who lack the talent, creativity, and (most importantly) the willpower/desire to do it themselves pretending to be something they are not. They are to be pitied, not to be paid.
 
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AntonidasWoodmere85 said:
An AI cannot create art. It can only steal and repurpose or reassemble it. Those who use a generator and claim to be an ARTIST are just thieves and liars who lack the talent, creativity, and (most importantly) the willpower/desire to do it themselves pretending to be something they are not. They are to be pitied, not to be paid.
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Hentai7891 said:
smh.... dev complaint about the pay again. after silent and no update expect pay again after a update only few cg scene. now only 65% done with 5months period. these game is cooked. I'm surprise the game is not abandon.
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isn't the dev kinda close to the end for this game? seriously if they do not want to work on this one anymore, just power through and finish it already. iirc (from when i last played) there is not all that much left for the plot.
 
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muhu1

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dauner said:
Maybe i can give some more insight on the use of AI in the game, i work on editing and the official walkthrough.

Storyboard:
The storyboard is done by Irphaeus and its very sexual and sometimes violent nature wont be able to be done by AI, at least by the models i know. Also the story is now well on its way into the last third and how would an AI finish that while making sense. So no use there.

Images:
Images are done by Irphaeus and now in addition by two part-timers, so there should be a speed up in image creation. To keep the spirit of the Honey Select engine AI won't be used in the middle of the games creation, especially again because of the sexual nature of the game. The only use of AI is to touch up some very few images, especially close ups, to look more "realistic". Maybe you can spot those in the later updates.

Music:
AI will probably be used in this field more heavily in the future, since not all free music is fitting and it's not an important part of the game.

Writing:
Feeding an AI with the storyboard could work, but then lots of the humor and sassiness would be lost. Which is in my opinion one of the biggest draws of the game. All of the text is written by a medical doctor in hsi free time, so all of his knowledge and 'foreign words" would be lost as well. I tried AI for editing but it just spat out nonsense most of the time, especiallybecause the writing is already embedded in the text code for the VN.

So music and some rare art is touched by AI, but all the other parts won't really work without a heavy time investment.
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Yeah, well, I don't know about that.

Regarding storyboard:
You can easily use AI for that. No biggie! Problem with AI is the amount of tokens for context but you don't have to use all the "story" to create a couples of scenes, unless you are willing to pay for different models. Just feed it a couple of critical information for that scene that you want, add/delete a few things here or there, or just straight up alter context until it fits your purpose.

Regarding images:
It's HS1? While you can't really use AI for images to use "in-game", it can be used nonetheless for "shots". Describe a potential shot to a image-gen AI and re-create it in HS1.

Regarding writing:
Literally the same as storyboard. If you know how to use AI, it can be of tremendous help
 
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SylvanWall

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Muhu1, you're only making it more clear that you don't understand how these generative learning tools are being sold as the snake oil for the non-artist that they are.

I am reminded of a old saying about 'not trying to teach a sheep to herd other sheep when a Shepard's dog has never failed it's job.'

The more you rely on AI to do the heavy lifting, the less likely you are to ever be able to do any of that lifting yourself again. Don't get addicted to something that lets you avoid thinking entirely. And no, this isn't about you "being the final say" as your own wording lacks any of the marks of someone who has faith in their own decisions enough to actually curate the responses the tools will feed back to you.

Being so consumed by the need for quick results will not only lower the quality down to it's bare minimum, but it'll prevent you entirely from being capable seeing better results for the work done. Then something better by a team of real people will come along, you'll fail to understand how it was made and just ask another generative learning tool to shred it down to it's base elements and copy it ad infinitum, starting you back over from the beginning where you have no ideas and see other people's success and blindly stealing/shredding/copying it.
 
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KingFuzzy said:
isn't the dev kinda close to the end for this game? seriously if they do not want to work on this one anymore, just power through and finish it already. iirc (from when i last played) there is not all that much left for the plot.
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Well, the way i see it the plot is not even half finished ...Unless MC is going to abandon his plan for revenge and focus on creating a good life for him....and that would be the happy ending ....:unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
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