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Yes, it's an incomplete theory. It would be, it would be a formula. That said, and now that I no longer have any doubt about the identity of the third daughter, it makes sense that she is at Shirohime's side. Why is Nanali still alive? She only withdrew her testimony against the father, she did not testify against or denounce her two classmates. Why does Shirohime trust her? Because Nanali is in debt to her boss. We can assume that when Shinji and Nanali's parents died, Shirohime proved to be a great help, financially and playing the emotional card. Medical care taken care of, Shinji gets his entrance to the academy and I don't know what else, but surely enough to gain the loyalty of his old classmate. Moreover, she already knows the big secret, which avoids the risk of this secret being discovered by another nosy employee. Anyway, Nanali is alive, and if it hasn't been confirmed by the plot yet that she's indeed the third girl, it's certainly more effective to keep her around and buy her loyalty than to let her wander around, at the risk of finding her dead drunk and desperate in a nightclub, saying all sorts of compromising things. I know. That makes Nanali an accomplice, which I don't like at all.

For everyone, the MC is Tomoe's son from another relationship. I'll grant you that it's a little sketchy that Georges takes this boy in right after Father Sazaki's death.
Shiro is too preoccupied with his own business to make a connection, even though she came close to busting him with her investigation into the MC's past.
Kaya? Hah, Kaya is cautious and her approach to the whole situation is that of an analyst—nothing to do with her asshole, okay?—and knows that the MC is no ordinary student. Even if she discovered his true identity, why would she go around reporting him to her sister, probably his worst enemy? She's gotten really close to the MC, and she knows he has a thing for the Musashima girls—yes, I know, he has a thing for anything with a pulse and a pussy—but with Motoko, there's something more, and this brilliant girl doesn't miss that kind of detail. If, and it's still a big if, she is indeed involved, even responsible for hiding the missing parents, she and the MC have goals that align.



Hey, now, don't be so sad, 2035 n'est pas si loin Edit: (Oops, sorry, I sometimes get mixed up with languages). 2035 is not that far away. Anything is worthwhile in digging around and on Nanali and there is a lot of digging to do *Squish squish*. In any case, getting close to Shinji is not worse than being around Kensou and could be another way to poke deeper and unnoticed. ho my, a lot of poking and digging with this meaty girl.



MC has a lot of soft spots for a lot of girls. One pulse, two legs, and, well, you know...
But, would pole dancing be more humiliating than their brutal sex camshow? And depending on your choice, during the first visit to her place, he was already sharing her with the two thugs from the train. In leash, yeah, but his personal pet? If he should share one of the girl, that would be her, imao.
Imagine the club's success with a rising porn celebrity pole dancing. The MC has already managed a prostitution ring as accountant. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Yoko sharing with two bandits and online sex execution is for a branch of evil karma. I saw it, but then I felt sorry for Yoko and booted up and went down the medium karma branch, just fucked her uterus*, there is still the easiest option - when you make her suck and go home.


*by the way, this was the first time I saw mention of the possibility of cervical penetration. this gave me an idea (and I found a video by Maya Simons online, find and see - it's just FIRE!!!). Thanks Irphaeus , man, you're simply the best!!! =)


Even if she discovered his true identity
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good sir can you explain yourself about this?
Minami - yes she somehow get to know about MC, Keiko know MC, but Kayane?
(Minami traced MC's trip to his father's grave, putting two and two together and getting four)

now why didn't Kayane give MC to Hiroshima - Kayane is playing her game against Hiroshima, and she sees MC as an "ace up her sleeve", or, okay, a joker, that is, a card that can play in her favor later. The Tendo family seems to have strategic thinking for the most part, which is not the case of Kenichi, this sissi-fool with oversize ego.
in short, Kayane will not win anything if she gives MC to her sister, on the contrary, she will deprive herself of a valuable card in her deck. And she's playing her own game against her older sister, too.
 
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I've read some of your latest posts here [...]. Is it simply a mistake or are you repeatedly calling Motoko as Makoto for a reason?
Apologies on both counts. Drafts actually had Motoko but I was too lazy to check and swapped to the more common Makoto.
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Wonder if Irph intended this or merely stole the name from The Major. :unsure:
 

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Yes, it's an incomplete theory. It would be, it would be a formula. That said, and now that I no longer have any doubt about the identity of the third daughter, it makes sense that she is at Shirohime's side. Why is Nanali still alive? She only withdrew her testimony against the father, she did not testify against or denounce her two classmates. Why does Shirohime trust her? Because Nanali is in debt to her boss. We can assume that when Shinji and Nanali's parents died, Shirohime proved to be a great help, financially and playing the emotional card. Medical care taken care of, Shinji gets his entrance to the academy and I don't know what else, but surely enough to gain the loyalty of his old classmate. Moreover, she already knows the big secret, which avoids the risk of this secret being discovered by another nosy employee. Anyway, Nanali is alive, and if it hasn't been confirmed by the plot yet that she's indeed the third girl, it's certainly more effective to keep her around and buy her loyalty than to let her wander around, at the risk of finding her dead drunk and desperate in a nightclub, saying all sorts of compromising things. I know. That makes Nanali an accomplice, which I don't like at all.

For everyone, the MC is Tomoe's son from another relationship. I'll grant you that it's a little sketchy that Georges takes this boy in right after Father Sazaki's death.
Shiro is too preoccupied with his own business to make a connection, even though she came close to busting him with her investigation into the MC's past.
Kaya? Hah, Kaya is cautious and her approach to the whole situation is that of an analyst—nothing to do with her asshole, okay?—and knows that the MC is no ordinary student. Even if she discovered his true identity, why would she go around reporting him to her sister, probably his worst enemy? She's gotten really close to the MC, and she knows he has a thing for the Musashima girls—yes, I know, he has a thing for anything with a pulse and a pussy—but with Motoko, there's something more, and this brilliant girl doesn't miss that kind of detail. If, and it's still a big if, she is indeed involved, even responsible for hiding the missing parents, she and the MC have goals that align.



Hey, now, don't be so sad, 2035 n'est pas si loin Edit: (Oops, sorry, I sometimes get mixed up with languages). 2035 is not that far away. Anything is worthwhile in digging around and on Nanali and there is a lot of digging to do *Squish squish*. In any case, getting close to Shinji is not worse than being around Kensou and could be another way to poke deeper and unnoticed. ho my, a lot of poking and digging with this meaty girl.



MC has a lot of soft spots for a lot of girls. One pulse, two legs, and, well, you know...
But, would pole dancing be more humiliating than their brutal sex camshow? And depending on your choice, during the first visit to her place, he was already sharing her with the two thugs from the train. In leash, yeah, but his personal pet? If he should share one of the girl, that would be her, imao.
Imagine the club's success with a rising porn celebrity pole dancing. The MC has already managed a prostitution ring as accountant. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Well MC is Tomoe's son with a previous relationship but not for everyone... Inori's Dad knows who his father is... Keiko connect the dots as well... The fact that Shirohime is busy is not exactly excuse not to be careful ....I never said that Kaya would rat MC out to her sister...Kenichi would in an instant but not Kaya... She holds a grudge to Shirohime...
George probably either was forced to accept MC to the house by Lilith/Rikuna or he had some sort of a plan to use him...
Well as for the Nanali part, I think that the whole keeping her alive serves more than we know since her last name was written in latin on a book Shinji and Rikuna were reading in the library.. I can see that having some sort of significance since Shirohime is looking for a book herself...
 
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Played this game like a year and a half ago and theres probably only been one or two updates in between but i've totally forgotten the story, characters etc should i give this another go, is it worth? wat do?
 

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Is this another preview ? Because I personally am not recollecting this one in-game at this moment.

P.S. Is there the uncensored version somewhere ?
What do you mean by censored? No mosaics or other stupidity of the sort.
The image I posted is a montage. It was to confirm the more than likeness between the third girl in the plot and Nanali (young Nanali, and Nanali today).
 
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What do you mean by censored? No mosaics or other stupidity of the sort.
The image I posted is a montage. It was to confirm the more than likeness between the third girl in the plot and Nanali (young Nanali, and Nanali today).
They mean is there a picture of just Nanali today without the young Nanali image covering her ass?
 

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Well MC is Tomoe's son with a previous relationship but not for everyone... Inori's Dad knows who his father is... Keiko connect the dots as well... The fact that Shirohime is busy is not exactly excuse not to be careful ....I never said that Kaya would rat MC out to her sister...Kenichi would in an instant but not Kaya... She holds a grudge to Shirohime...
George probably either was forced to accept MC to the house by Lilith/Rikuna or he had some sort of a plan to use him...
Well as for the Nanali part, I think that the whole keeping her alive serves more than we know since her last name was written in latin on a book Shinji and Rikuna were reading in the library.. I can see that having some sort of significance since Shirohime is looking for a book herself...
It's an AVN, and probably like you, I'd like everything to be perfect, or at least consistent in the plot. But having played, let's say, a large number of them, as good as I could find them, I haven't had the chance to play a perfect one. The MC's arrival at the academy, the fact that he lives with the Scheizer family, the fact that he integrates very quickly and pokes his nose everywhere, should arouse curiosity, especially from those who have things to hide. But for some strange reason, and despite the many suspicious aspects of his presence and behavior, he passes through the rain without getting wet. We may have a reasonable explanation along the way, but for now, his affiliation with the father Sazaki is better hidden in plain sight than a ninja in the shadows, even if he couldn't be more indiscreet. However, there are still many questions hanging in the air, such as the involvement or connection with the Ikami family. You want questions? Here's one. This name, Ikami, is written in an ancient book that Shiro wants, but does Shirokunt know it? Not even sure that the Dev himself knows how all the pieces of the puzzle will fit together in the end. So my guesses are as valid as yours, with big "???s" in place of these "placeholders" in the story.
 

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Yes, it's an incomplete theory. It would be, it would be a formula. That said, and now that I no longer have any doubt about the identity of the third daughter, it makes sense that she is at Shirohime's side. Why is Nanali still alive? She only withdrew her testimony against the father, she did not testify against or denounce her two classmates. Why does Shirohime trust her? Because Nanali is in debt to her boss. We can assume that when Shinji and Nanali's parents died, Shirohime proved to be a great help, financially and playing the emotional card. Medical care taken care of, Shinji gets his entrance to the academy and I don't know what else, but surely enough to gain the loyalty of his old classmate. Moreover, she already knows the big secret, which avoids the risk of this secret being discovered by another nosy employee. Anyway, Nanali is alive, and if it hasn't been confirmed by the plot yet that she's indeed the third girl, it's certainly more effective to keep her around and buy her loyalty than to let her wander around, at the risk of finding her dead drunk and desperate in a nightclub, saying all sorts of compromising things. I know. That makes Nanali an accomplice, which I don't like at all.

For everyone, the MC is Tomoe's son from another relationship. I'll grant you that it's a little sketchy that Georges takes this boy in right after Father Sazaki's death.
Shiro is too preoccupied with his own business to make a connection, even though she came close to busting him with her investigation into the MC's past.
Kaya? Hah, Kaya is cautious and her approach to the whole situation is that of an analyst—nothing to do with her asshole, okay?—and knows that the MC is no ordinary student. Even if she discovered his true identity, why would she go around reporting him to her sister, probably his worst enemy? She's gotten really close to the MC, and she knows he has a thing for the Musashima girls—yes, I know, he has a thing for anything with a pulse and a pussy—but with Motoko, there's something more, and this brilliant girl doesn't miss that kind of detail. If, and it's still a big if, she is indeed involved, even responsible for hiding the missing parents, she and the MC have goals that align.



Hey, now, don't be so sad, 2035 n'est pas si loin Edit: (Oops, sorry, I sometimes get mixed up with languages). 2035 is not that far away. Anything is worthwhile in digging around and on Nanali and there is a lot of digging to do *Squish squish*. In any case, getting close to Shinji is not worse than being around Kensou and could be another way to poke deeper and unnoticed. ho my, a lot of poking and digging with this meaty girl.



MC has a lot of soft spots for a lot of girls. One pulse, two legs, and, well, you know...
But, would pole dancing be more humiliating than their brutal sex camshow? And depending on your choice, during the first visit to her place, he was already sharing her with the two thugs from the train. In leash, yeah, but his personal pet? If he should share one of the girl, that would be her, imao.
Imagine the club's success with a rising porn celebrity pole dancing. The MC has already managed a prostitution ring as accountant. Do you see where I'm going with this?
and if it hasn't been confirmed by the plot yet that she's indeed the third girl
Yep, it only needs the game (Dev) to confirm it somehow, but not yet, too early in the plot me thinks, unless MC bucks up and starts to dig deep into the conspiracy. But that would probably shorten the game, and the Dev really needs the money. :LOL:

nothing to do with her asshole, okay?
Why not? its a nice backside that needs some attention :giggle:

even responsible for hiding the missing parents, she and the MC have goals that align.
Coming over to my suggestion they will be lovers together with Kayane the Queen at last, ? and takes revenge on those that used her in her undercover roll, including that dipstick Kenechi and his two goons who used her to suck dick. Remember when she did that on the school roof, and MC was on the roof over the stairs, and she saw him, smiled and winked to say "i am using him not the other way around" and showed she was undercover in some way, well she took a liking to MC then i think. But just my thoughts as usual.

getting close to Shinji.
Yep, could be another route to getting close to Nanali, and tapping her for info, as well as her back door :LOL: Also could be another route into the Ziabatsu HQ on some sort of official business, don't ask what i don't know yet, maybe a post boy to help her out? just throwing it out there for your thoughts.

The whole Nanani idea of yours with Shiro is interesting, and seems plausible, and like all the other plots and paths need to to be fleshed out a long way down the road. Oh by the way i have pre booked my funeral plan, as i suspect i will be gone by the time we know all the plot fully and game end, and MC will still be shafting the girls....lucky dirty devil. I am hoping to come back and haunt you to get the ending plot, just to see if we are anywhere near correct, but suspect the Dev has a few more plot surprises for us.

Have a good one. :cool:
 
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Day 1 asking for the updates
Come back when you have a beard that touches the ground, and it's nice and white, then. Spamming the thread here and bothering us with this question, which by the way, you're not the first to ask it, won't make the dev move forward any faster. I'm not even sure the Dev will stick his nose in here any time soon. Apparently the delay of his updates are constantly being postponed. Just know that spamming often causes trolling and that trolling is not allowed on this site, so unless you want to get banned, go do a little reading on the thread, and you'll get your answer without bothering anyone.
Thank you for your understanding. Have a good day (y)
 

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Yep, it only needs the game (Dev) to confirm it somehow, but not yet, too early in the plot me thinks, unless MC bucks up and starts to dig deep into the conspiracy. But that would probably shorten the game, and the Dev really needs the money. :LOL:


Why not? its a nice backside that needs some attention :giggle:


Coming over to my suggestion they will be lovers together with Kayane the Queen at last, ? and takes revenge on those that used her in her undercover roll, including that dipstick Kenechi and his two goons who used her to suck dick. Remember when she did that on the school roof, and MC was on the roof over the stairs, and she saw him, smiled and winked to say "i am using him not the other way around" and showed she was undercover in some way, well she took a liking to MC then i think. But just my thoughts as usual.


Yep, could be another route to getting close to Nanali, and tapping her for info, as well as her back door :LOL: Also could be another route into the Ziabatsu HQ on some sort of official business, don't ask what i don't know yet, maybe a post boy to help her out? just throwing it out there for your thoughts.

The whole Nanani idea of yours with Shiro is interesting, and seems plausible, and like all the other plots and paths need to to be fleshed out a long way down the road. Oh by the way i have pre booked my funeral plan, as i suspect i will be gone by the time we know all the plot fully and game end, and MC will still be shafting the girls....lucky dirty devil. I am hoping to come back and haunt you to get the ending plot, just to see if we are anywhere near correct, but suspect the Dev has a few more plot surprises for us.

Have a good one. :cool:
You know, I read the threads quite often across the site, and this one of course, and one thing that comes up quite often is the complaints and whining about a common point in all the games here, whether they're VN, RPG, Unity, or other engines: the time required to design a game or other media. Many developers do this as a hobby, out of passion, or as a side job. Even those who build well-organized teams, which we could call professional teams, like production studios. For them, the job is no different from companies like Bethesda and other game and software developers.
The big difference is the marketing plan that generates, one, the resources for the development and publishing of the product, and two, the way the customer, the buyer, the player, pays for the product. Well-established companies market a finished product, and it is then distributed through commercial networks so that customers can purchase a finished product. The word "finished" can be questioned because updates, or DLC, are sold afterward, but the product is nevertheless finished; that is to say, the story is complete before it is sold.
This is the big difference between it and sponsorship of a product, which is paid in installments, by patrons, throughout development;
And it's clear that people in general, and particularly those who are interested in these products, like here on this site, are not reasonable.
They constantly complain that updates aren't released quickly enough, calling the developer a cow milkers, and at the same time, if the developer decides to move the plot forward quickly, the same people will complain that there isn't enough content, calling them scammers and lazybones. And the paradox becomes broader when it is people who don't pay a dim who call the Dev a scammer.

I, too, live in a society where consumerism is the cornerstone of the economy, and I, too, have become impatient. But given the choice between a product made quickly, in a hurry, and one whose essential appeal continues to grow... Guess which one I prefer? Let's not even talk about products that never reach the end of their creation, like those that are abandoned.
Perhaps with my last breath, I wouldn't have seen the end of this one, but like the rest of the things I value, I don't like it when it's finished, or when my glass is empty, so to speak. What can I say? Once an Epicurean, always an Epicurean :p

Have a good one you too, whatever the "one" would be for you. ;)

PS: Oh and please everyone, I'm not targeting anyone in particular here, so spare me the outraged replies; I'm not here to judge anyone.
 
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You know, I read the threads quite often across the site, and this one of course, and one thing that comes up quite often is the complaints and whining about a common point in all the games here, whether they're VN, RPG, Unity, or other engines: the time required to design a game or other media. Many developers do this as a hobby, out of passion, or as a side job. Even those who build well-organized teams, which we could call professional teams, like production studios. For them, the job is no different from companies like Bethesda and other game and software developers.
The big difference is the marketing plan that generates, one, the resources for the development and publishing of the product, and two, the way the customer, the buyer, the player, pays for the product. Well-established companies market a finished product, and it is then distributed through commercial networks so that customers can purchase a finished product. The word "finished" can be questioned because updates, or DLC, are sold afterward, but the product is nevertheless finished; that is to say, the story is complete before it is sold.
This is the big difference between it and sponsorship of a product, which is paid in installments, by patrons, throughout development;
And it's clear that people in general, and particularly those who are interested in these products, like here on this site, are not reasonable.
They constantly complain that updates aren't released quickly enough, calling the developer a cow milkers, and at the same time, if the developer decides to move the plot forward quickly, the same people will complain that there isn't enough content, calling them scammers and lazybones. And the paradox becomes broader when it is people who don't pay a dim who call the Dev a scammer.

I, too, live in a society where consumerism is the cornerstone of the economy, and I, too, have become impatient. But given the choice between a product made quickly, in a hurry, and one whose essential appeal continues to grow... Guess which one I prefer? Let's not even talk about products that never reach the end of their creation, like those that are abandoned.
Perhaps with my last breath, I wouldn't have seen the end of this one, but like the rest of the things I value, I don't like it when it's finished, or when my glass is empty, so to speak. What can I say? Once an Epicurean, always an Epicurean :p

Have a good one you too, whatever the "one" would be for you. ;)

PS: Oh and please everyone, I'm not targeting anyone in particular here, so spare me the outraged replies; I'm not here to judge anyone.
You really don't understand the difference between ‘no promises - the update will come out when - when it comes out’ and ‘I promise - the update will come out in early October and...’ People are not mad at him for rarely releasing updates, they are mad at him for making empty promises.
For ‘early October’ already quietly, without any promises, a new chapter of ‘companion of darkness’ and ‘imperial chronicles’ came out soon. Quietly, quietly...without any false promises. And you continue to stand up for this arsehole.
 

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You really don't understand the difference between ‘no promises - the update will come out when - when it comes out’ and ‘I promise - the update will come out in early October and...’ People are not mad at him for rarely releasing updates, they are mad at him for making empty promises.
For ‘early October’ already quietly, without any promises, a new chapter of ‘companion of darkness’ and ‘imperial chronicles’ came out soon. Quietly, quietly...without any false promises. And you continue to stand up for this arsehole.
No, you still don't understand anything. How many years have you been... Ah, damn, you're newbie here hehe... *roll eye* well, dude, then you still have to learn that Irfpheus works the way it works. and you "either take what you have or leave." Of course, you can grumble at his words, but grumbling won't change anything. That's the way our Irphaeus's little universe works...
The Master has his own quirks...
 
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