VN Ren'Py Waifu Academy [v0.13.0] [Irphaeus]

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Want to see how many games have been abandoned?
Why not see how many games have NOT been abandoned, whose authors are trying to work diligently and don't lie 10 times a year? People love those games and authors sincerely and honestly, not like with Stockholm syndrome, when your favourite author spits on you and his game for years, and you, like his loyal slaves, rush to defend him at all costs and are grateful that these worthless authors release content for half an hour a year, after lying a hundred times, just so that the last paying idiots don't run away so quickly.

I was going to ask you a question - do you pay for this game? - but I think the answer is already contained in your comment, so obviously not, unless you consider yourself an idiot?
I understand the frustration of the active and paying members. I can also understand the fear of those who have been attached to this game for years, of seeing the game with this tag: "Abandoned". What I understand much less is the people who unleash their anger on the developer because he doesn't deliver the updates on the dates he announced, EVEN THOUGH these same people have never paid a single dim to support the game. Would you go to yell and complain to a car dealership about the malfunction of "your" car, which is a stolen car from that same dealership?
And also, don't forget one important thing. It's thanks to these idiots who pay that the game continues to evolve - I know, very slowly, blah blah blah - and very often, when it's not the developer himself who posts his own game, these same idiots who pay also leak the game for those who don't pay, you, us, so that we can enjoy it for free.
So, by all means, thank you. I was one of those idiots who paid for this game, but thanks to you, I know I'm not one anymore, because I stopped paying a few years ago. "Sarcasm on": When something is free, you are the product!
Just my two cent thought

 

[triplebrc]

I was going to ask you a question - do you pay for this game? - but I think the answer is already contained in your comment, so obviously not, unless you consider yourself an idiot?
I understand the frustration of the active and paying members. I can also understand the fear of those who have been attached to this game for years, of seeing the game with this tag: "Abandoned". What I understand much less is the people who unleash their anger on the developer because he doesn't deliver the updates on the dates he announced, EVEN THOUGH these same people have never paid a single dim to support the game.

So according to you, one needs to be a paying member to be mad or annoyed about announced release dates being outright lies for what feels like the majority of the time? People getting excited for what little content this game gets, only to figure out that they got their hopes up for no reason, again and again, is not supposed to be valid criticism for them to make? How about the developer either keeps his word, makes more realistic estimates, or stops giving release dates at all if he cannot stick to them anyway?

And also, don't forget one important thing. It's thanks to these idiots who pay that the game continues to evolve - I know, very slowly, blah blah blah - and very often, when it's not the developer himself who posts his own game, these same idiots who pay also leak the game for those who don't pay, you, us, so that we can enjoy it for free.

Thats a bad take, and here is why. Clearly this developer is a known liar by now, and someone who does bare minimum effort at this point. Now, since so many people keep paying anyway, no matter how many times they are lied to, and no matter how slow and thin the drip feed of content gets and how much it declines in quality, the developer has no incentive to do better, because by now he knows that the people who are still here will likely never stop paying if given at least some tiny bit of content irregularly.
If after bad update and lying about release dates 3 in a row, a fourth or more of all the paying people would stop supporting for a bit until things improved, the dev would have a good reason to have a better output and stop giving release dates he is not going to keep. By having no standards and simping so hard for this dev, they are directly contributing to this getting worse.

 

[Uwukz]

I was going to ask you a question - do you pay for this game? - but I think the answer is already contained in your comment, so obviously not, unless you consider yourself an idiot?
I understand the frustration of the active and paying members. I can also understand the fear of those who have been attached to this game for years, of seeing the game with this tag: "Abandoned". What I understand much less is the people who unleash their anger on the developer because he doesn't deliver the updates on the dates he announced, EVEN THOUGH these same people have never paid a single dim to support the game. Would you go to yell and complain to a car dealership about the malfunction of "your" car, which is a stolen car from that same dealership?
And also, don't forget one important thing. It's thanks to these idiots who pay that the game continues to evolve - I know, very slowly, blah blah blah - and very often, when it's not the developer himself who posts his own game, these same idiots who pay also leak the game for those who don't pay, you, us, so that we can enjoy it for free.
So, by all means, thank you. I was one of those idiots who paid for this game, but thanks to you, I know I'm not one anymore, because I stopped paying a few years ago. "Sarcasm on": When something is free, you are the product!
Just my two cent thought

Listen, mate, I don't need to pay anything to state facts that may be unpleasant for naive, stupid people and those who like to deceive themselves.
Right now, the game isn't developing properly; it's in a state between life and death, stubbornly stagnating, and this has been going on for ages. Constant delays, lies, feeding people falsehoods, ridiculous amounts of updates — all of this has become the norm for this game; this is not development. Approximately 1-2% progress per year is not DEVELOPMENT, it is a pitiful handout to milk a bunch of stupid people who hope for some positive changes until the end of the author's days, without doing anything in particular.
And the only ones to blame for all this are those very "cash cows" who sponsor laziness, greed, and lies. They are killing the game with their own hands, thinking they are doing "good" by sponsoring the author's actual idleness and so that this very author can have them in all their holes, feeding them empty promises and pathetic scraps, which the author will proudly call an update for the YEAR.
SHOCK THERAPY in the form of losing money is NECESSARY for people like Irphaeus. After all, jerks like him don't know what honour, humanity and other good qualities are; they can only profit from people and lie; that's their craft, and there's no creativity involved. He must be fought with such methods, and then he will either change for the better and try to become at least a semblance of a person who works conscientiously on his project, or he will go to the rubbish heap to die in poverty. The second option won't change much for fans of this game, but at least it will be possible to bury it in peace, rather than tormenting a living corpse.
#STOPDONATE

 

[ramvivat]

Well " good way would be to booby-trap the waffle maker and make it remotely explode or overload it while she's inside " is not an easy thing to do considering the fact that MC has 0 explosive knowledge...So if he tried that he would end up blowing up himself...Same goes with shooting her or stab her as long as she has Goto....He barely past him in the building and entered the sauna room...after the invation on the lab she will take measures for her protection!!!

Yes, but please don't forget his chemistry skills - he made chloroform with which he knocked out Isabella (the drawing teacher)

 

[ramvivat]

Want to see how many games have been abandoned?
Why not see how many games have NOT been abandoned, whose authors are trying to work diligently and don't lie 10 times a year? People love those games and authors sincerely and honestly, not like with Stockholm syndrome, when your favourite author spits on you and his game for years, and you, like his loyal slaves, rush to defend him at all costs and are grateful that these worthless authors release content for half an hour a year, after lying a hundred times, just so that the last paying idiots don't run away so quickly.

Either you don't know or you've forgotten the thesis about the growing contradictions in society as it develops. In short, the more developed a society is, the greater the contradictions within it that hinder its further development.

Why is it simply impossible to move at the speed of light with today's technology? Every increase in speed requires even more energy than has already been expended.

The same goes for projects with a developed plot and multiple plot threads—they all develop, plot threads. Each chapter requires thoughtful development, without creating plot holes. Each chapter requires more time to write than the previous chapters.

What can I say—the more people, the more money, the more expensive everything becomes.

In short, stop attacking the author of a long-form work, and just pray that they have enough health to reach the logical conclusion of the work.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

So according to you, one needs to be a paying member to be mad or annoyed about announced release dates being outright lies for what feels like the majority of the time? People getting excited for what little content this game gets, only to figure out that they got their hopes up for no reason, again and again, is not supposed to be valid criticism for them to make? How about the developer either keeps his word, makes more realistic estimates, or stops giving release dates at all if he cannot stick to them anyway?



Thats a bad take, and here is why. Clearly this developer is a known liar by now, and someone who does bare minimum effort at this point. Now, since so many people keep paying anyway, no matter how many times they are lied to, and no matter how slow and thin the drip feed of content gets and how much it declines in quality, the developer has no incentive to do better, because by now he knows that the people who are still here will likely never stop paying if given at least some tiny bit of content irregularly.
If after bad update and lying about release dates 3 in a row, a fourth or more of all the paying people would stop supporting for a bit until things improved, the dev would have a good reason to have a better output and stop giving release dates he is not going to keep. By having no standards and simping so hard for this dev, they are directly contributing to this getting worse.

Listen, mate, I don't need to pay anything to state facts that may be unpleasant for naive, stupid people and those who like to deceive themselves.
Right now, the game isn't developing properly; it's in a state between life and death, stubbornly stagnating, and this has been going on for ages. Constant delays, lies, feeding people falsehoods, ridiculous amounts of updates — all of this has become the norm for this game; this is not development. Approximately 1-2% progress per year is not DEVELOPMENT, it is a pitiful handout to milk a bunch of stupid people who hope for some positive changes until the end of the author's days, without doing anything in particular.
And the only ones to blame for all this are those very "cash cows" who sponsor laziness, greed, and lies. They are killing the game with their own hands, thinking they are doing "good" by sponsoring the author's actual idleness and so that this very author can have them in all their holes, feeding them empty promises and pathetic scraps, which the author will proudly call an update for the YEAR.
SHOCK THERAPY in the form of losing money is NECESSARY for people like Irphaeus. After all, jerks like him don't know what honour, humanity and other good qualities are; they can only profit from people and lie; that's their craft, and there's no creativity involved. He must be fought with such methods, and then he will either change for the better and try to become at least a semblance of a person who works conscientiously on his project, or he will go to the rubbish heap to die in poverty. The second option won't change much for fans of this game, but at least it will be possible to bury it in peace, rather than tormenting a living corpse.
#STOPDONATE

Is this really a bad take? Or is it rather you who don't understand reality? Let's imagine a hypothetical situation: we form a group of dissatisfied people who are not financial supporters, and we take all the arguments you've presented. The real questions we need to ask ourselves are: What can we do to change the developer's behavior? What influence do we have, as illegitimate players? Who will listen to our complaints and arguments, however true they may be? Who makes the rules in the operation and development of games on Patreon?
Now, let's draw a parallel between us, as the public prosecutor bringing the accusation, irphaeus, as the accused defending his own case, and Patreon and its staff as judge and jury. We present our case with the evidence and testimonies we have gathered, and irphaeus does the same. The Patreon judge examines both requests, and what does he see? He sees what a judge in a court of law would see: that our arguments are invalid, and our evidence was obtained illegally, through hacking, and therefore decides to dismiss the case, concluding with a verdict of not guilty. Period. The only ones who could make a difference would be the paying members, who could denounce irphaeus for his shortcomings, and/or, as you suggested, put pressure on Patreon to impose an embargo on this product. So, what are you going to accomplish here? Start a revolution on F95? What kind of constructive criticism are you offering? Apart from looking like trolls to other players and F95 staff members, what will you accomplish by treating those who don't agree with you as ignorant and naive idiots? Do you really think you'll have enough allies here, or on Patreon, by spitting in their faces and calling them complete fools? If there is indeed a solution to get Irphaeus to start working seriously, or to bring him down, I don't think you're on the right track. You're simply barking up the wrong tree, and all you'll accomplish is getting yourself banned without having changed anything.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Yes, but please don't forget his chemistry skills - he made chloroform with which he knocked out Isabella (the drawing teacher)

True but he had instructions and the whole ingredients...There is that difference....Shirohime will not be such an easy target unless she gets drunk , that will make her resistance smaller but still as long as Goto is guarding her she won't be an easy target...

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

True but he had instructions and the whole ingredients...There is that difference....Shirohime will not be such an easy target unless she gets drunk , that will make her resistance smaller but still as long as Goto is guarding her she won't be an easy target...

Yeah, Goto is a real mountain, a hulk, but... As an adage in martial arts, among other proverbs, says: The bigger and more imposing something is, the louder the noise it makes when it falls

 

[triplebrc]

Is this really a bad take? Or is it rather you who don't understand reality? Let's imagine a hypothetical situation: we form a group of dissatisfied people who are not financial supporters, and we take all the arguments you've presented. The real questions we need to ask ourselves are: What can we do to change the developer's behavior? What influence do we have, as illegitimate players? Who will listen to our complaints and arguments, however true they may be? Who makes the rules in the operation and development of games on Patreon?

Do you assume everyone who is currently not paying has never paid, or would never pay? Because it sounds like you do. As someone who has supported plenty of Patreon games in his time, and Ci-en games back when giving them and Dlsite money wasn't too much of a challenge for me to bother, I gotta say I would never support the developer as he is now, but I would if he produced good work at a steady pace. Problem is that he has no incentive to do anything for my money and other peoples money, because so many pay pigs throw their money him anyway, no matter what, even if he barely does anything.

I am not even holding him being lazy against him as much as you may think, I'd be a lazy bum too if I could still make a living with it, though I'd ease up on the lying and blue balling with release dates, I am shitting on the people who enable him to do it, they are the ones ruining any chance for it to ever get better. I feel like if you still don't get this, then either you mentally can't, or you can but just don't want to, makes no difference to me which one it is in your case though.

Now, let's draw a parallel between us, as the public prosecutor bringing the accusation, irphaeus, as the accused defending his own case, and Patreon and its staff as judge and jury.

 

[ramvivat]

True but he had instructions and the whole ingredients...There is that difference....Shirohime will not be such an easy target unless she gets drunk , that will make her resistance smaller but still as long as Goto is guarding her she won't be an easy target...

yes he have. but he have brains - he (i mean us) can mess all and make overdoze and - kaboom!!!. don't you remember? =)

also Lili is always on our side... i guess... yes? Hiro sooner or later but she will suck our cock!
=)

 

[ramvivat]

Guys, Rachel and Lily, I'm constantly confused about which of them is just a situational ally (that is, just a traveling companion) and who is our friend?

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

yes he have. but he have brains - he (i mean us) can mess all and make overdoze and - kaboom!!!. don't you remember? =)

also Lili is always on our side... i guess... yes? Hiro sooner or later but she will suck our cock!
=)

And she will enjoy it very much