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I thought you were GrindMasterCory... oh, wait; my mistake. Lol
Seriously, there is too much grind and far too little vaginal sex to keep me happy.
Funny thing is, I actually do enjoy playing games with a good grind.

Some of my favorite games on this site are A Struggle With Sin and Peasant's Quest.

Both require a good amount of grinding in order to progress through their stories.

But at least with those games, there is a more reasonable balance between grind and content that makes going through their grinds ultimately worth it.

And with all due respect to the creator and players of Warlock and Boobs, I just don't feel this game has got that balance.
 

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Funny thing is, I actually do enjoy playing games with a good grind.

Some of my favorite games on this site are A Struggle With Sin and Peasant's Quest.

Both require a good amount of grinding in order to progress through their stories.

But at least with those games, there is a more reasonable balance between grind and content that makes going through their grinds ultimately worth it.

And with all due respect to the creator and players of Warlock and Boobs, I just don't feel this game has got that balance.
I was actually thinking about this while playing the other day. I got through a lot of content, like 10+ quests done and lvl 6, but all my "professions" are still at lvl one. Honestly, the fact that I can't craft multiple potions or dinners an action makes them less useful to me. But I do feel like I'm being held back by not having the alchemy at a higher lvl. Too much hard grind and not enough steady grind. And this is coming from a guy who's played RPGs his whole life.
 

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Funny thing is, I actually do enjoy playing games with a good grind.

Some of my favorite games on this site are A Struggle With Sin and Peasant's Quest.

Both require a good amount of grinding in order to progress through their stories.

But at least with those games, there is a more reasonable balance between grind and content that makes going through their grinds ultimately worth it.

And with all due respect to the creator and players of Warlock and Boobs, I just don't feel this game has got that balance.
You are already aware that I am answering this from the point of view of someone who is massively prejudiced but ...
Quite a lot of the grind is progressive
By which I mean after doing a certain interaction 5 or 10 times the MC can move onto another interaction which increases the relationship values faster (it is usually the relationship values that are the major issues in accessing new scenarios)
So the interaction grind can be reduced ...
... by spending a lot of time trying lots of different interactions :whistle:
 

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Funny thing is, I actually do enjoy playing games with a good grind.

Some of my favorite games on this site are A Struggle With Sin and Peasant's Quest.

Both require a good amount of grinding in order to progress through their stories.

But at least with those games, there is a more reasonable balance between grind and content that makes going through their grinds ultimately worth it.

And with all due respect to the creator and players of Warlock and Boobs, I just don't feel this game has got that balance.
I agree completely; those are also two of my favorite games where you have to work for the content.
My current favorite game is Bawdy Traditions... not much grind at all but great content.
 
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You are already aware that I am answering this from the point of view of someone who is massively prejudiced but ...
Quite a lot of the grind is progressive
By which I mean after doing a certain interaction 5 or 10 times the MC can move onto another interaction which increases the relationship values faster (it is usually the relationship values that are the major issues in accessing new scenarios)
So the interaction grind can be reduced ...
... by spending a lot of time trying lots of different interactions :whistle:
I get it and understand your position.

But the thing is, the problem isn't just the relationship grind.

The problem is half-a-dozen or more various grinds that coincide with the relationship grind:
  1. The grind for combat level
  2. The grind for profession levels
  3. The grind for getting ingredients for the alchemy and cooking recipes
  4. The grind for making potions and dinners
  5. The grind for acquiring gold and wealth
  6. And so on and so on
And note that the relationship grind and some other grinds mentioned in the list are not just "one" grind.

There are multiple relationship grinds and multiple profession grinds and multiple alchemy and cooking ingredients that all have to be grinded for.

I'm happy this all works for you. But for the average player, it reaches a point where the game isn't fun anymore without the use of some third party cheating software.

And my personal rule of thumb is this: If I have to use a cheat engine or save editor or third-party cheating tool of any kind in order to make playing your game fun for me, then there is probably something wrong with your game.

I mean for example, no matter how much you love this game, you have to admit that it's a bit ridiculous that fighting and defeating random mobs gives you absolutely NO experience.

You have to admit that this game design choice does nothing to really improve the gameplay experience for the player.
All it does is just add to the already pretty overwhelming grind.
 

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I get it and understand your position.

But the thing is, the problem isn't just the relationship grind.

The problem is half-a-dozen or more various grinds that coincide with the relationship grind:
  1. The grind for combat level
  2. The grind for profession levels
  3. The grind for getting ingredients for the alchemy and cooking recipes
  4. The grind for making potions and dinners
  5. The grind for acquiring gold and wealth
  6. And so on and so on
And note that the relationship grind and some other grinds mentioned in the list are not just "one" grind.

There are multiple relationship grinds and multiple profession grinds and multiple alchemy and cooking ingredients that all have to be grinded for.

I'm happy this all works for you. But for the average player, it reaches a point where the game isn't fun anymore without the use of some third party cheating software.

And my personal rule of thumb is this: If I have to use a cheat engine or save editor or third-party cheating tool of any kind in order to make playing your game fun for me, then there is probably something wrong with your game.

I mean for example, no matter how much you love this game, you have to admit that it's a bit ridiculous that fighting and defeating random mobs gives you absolutely NO experience.

You have to admit that this game design choice does nothing to really improve the gameplay experience for the player.
All it does is just add to the already pretty overwhelming grind.
If players need to use cheats or save editors continually then a game probably does have a design flaw

But as you know I really like this game - I'm really not looking to change anyone's mind - I'm going to put my defence of the game in a Spoiler because I think some casual browsers will probably find it overlong and boring
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Anyone know how to have new scene with astra? Plz, help me.
Are you talking about the Astra masturbation scene ?
Astra masturbation scene
Because this was added in an update and just worked for me I have no idea what the necessary triggers or the necessary relationship values for Fina and/or Astra are for this
Certainly works for me with Fina > 75 and Astra > 70
Arrive at Fina's office in the morning to help
Eric arrives apparently sent by Jenna and delivers a package to Fina (not sure of triggers for this)
On any subsequent Wednesday or Friday night go to Astra's bedroom
Witness Astra anally masturbating with a jade dildo
 
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Are you talking about the Astra masturbation scene ?
Astra masturbation scene
Because this was added in an update and just worked for me I have no idea what the necessary triggers or the necessary relationship values for Fina and/or Astra are for this
Certainly works for me with Fina > 75 and Astra > 70
Arrive at Fina's office in the morning to help
Eric arrives apparently sent by Jenna and delivers a package to Fina (not sure of triggers for this)
On any subsequent Wednesday or Friday night go to Astra's bedroom
Witness Astra anally masturbating with a jade dildo
Are you talking about the Astra masturbation scene ?
Astra masturbation scene
Because this was added in an update and just worked for me I have no idea what the necessary triggers or the necessary relationship values for Fina and/or Astra are for this
Certainly works for me with Fina > 75 and Astra > 70
Arrive at Fina's office in the morning to help
Eric arrives apparently sent by Jenna and delivers a package to Fina (not sure of triggers for this)
On any subsequent Wednesday or Friday night go to Astra's bedroom
Witness Astra anally masturbating with a jade dildo
Yes, but it has said there is a scene between krowly and astra but i cant find.
 

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Yes, but it has said there is a scene between krowly and astra but i cant find.
Could you give a little nore information
What are your current relationship values with Fina and Astra ?
I laid out a few steps you could take - which of them did you complete ?
 

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I don't understand how installing someone's gallery could help me.
I don't actually use galleries but ...

As far as I can tell this is the first post you have made in this thread ?
It doesn't appear to be related to any post immediately before it ?
Is it just a statement ? - In which case there is no need to respond to this
or are you asking for advice ? - In which case could you give a little more detail
 
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How to use teleportation guys ?? there's a cheat in the beasement that say allow teleport all location but nothing about HOW to do teleport it self
 

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How to use teleportation guys ?? there's a cheat in the beasement that say allow teleport all location but nothing about HOW to do teleport it self
Interact with the magic circle in the basement
The teleport options can also be instantiated by taking the quest "New laboratory" as far as possible (it is not completed in the current release)
 
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Interact with the magic circle in the basement
The teleport options can also be instantiated by taking the quest "New laboratory" as far as possible (it is not completed in the current release)
I interacted with the magic circle after enable teleport to all location but it still doesn't show the option to teleport
 

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I interacted with the magic circle after enable teleport to all location but it still doesn't show the option to teleport
Well I haven't used the cheat room but after taking the "New laboratory" quest about as far as it will go in the current version I get this
wabTeleportMenu.png
 
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