Ren'Py Wartribe Academy [v2.0.1 Public] [Mr.Rooster]

[MikesDK]

Can you skip main girls questline and still play the game to the end?

Wondering since Magna and the lesbian chick just dosent make sense to me, i dont really see the point of them being there since they just dont fit with the main story...i mean 1 lesbian and 1 BI and both having sex with girls while their only goal is to marry MC, to me it just dosent make sense for them to risk not getting married to MC when its supposed to be so importen to them, so the last thing they should do is fuck around with anyone.

I dont mind lesbian stuff, but i like it to fit the story which i personaly dont feel like it does, question is if you can complete game without training with Magna, so if i can just skip their questlines it would make for a better story to me.

 

[jerome292]

I don't know why, but i'm really into Luce's sister, Lunette.

 

[andhesgonewithmetoo]

their only goal is to marry MC

If that's what you've taken away from the story, either you're only five minutes in or you haven't been paying attention.

ETA: It's even right there in the OP:

Each city sends one of their noble daughters to be your bride, but they all have their own agenda!

 

[JJJ84]

I think while the fast travel system with the girls solves the girl (i.e. Love interest) specific events by putting it in entirely VN mode with the player seeing whether they're up to date or not, those don't take into account all the events which happen in the game that is either the main story or involving multiple characters.

So for all those non-LI specific events, player is ending up going around the clicking basically every location and try to see whether an unseen event can be triggered.

And this I'm putting forth as a constructive criticism towards MrRooster but it is definitely one of the flaws with the current sandbox.
I'd say the game should have either;

- Another VN mode which players can access those non-LI specific events
or
- A proper journal system which keeps track of these non-LI specific events in a list of sorts and instructs the player which place to go in order to trigger each event, and tells the player whether they're all up to date in terms of completed.

With the latter (i.e. journal system), games like Desert Stalker, & The DeLuca Family (really great games) uses it, and it helps the player keep track of whether they've completed all the content and what they need to do to trigger each event.


Regarding Wartribe, I finished Monica's event as well as the bathhouse event with Luce, Magda, Rhea, Joy (both which can't be accessed through fast travel), and I still have no idea whether I finished all these non-LI specific events because the game doesn't have any indicator (and as I've said before, at times one can guess which building to click in order to access events, but other times player has to blindly click on all the buildings to find any events one may have missed is no fun).

And don't get me wrong, I like the story of the game a lot.
It's just that these additional system (like the Journal or another VN mode for non LI specific events ) will go a long way in making the game feel more player friendly and less of a chore in terms of the gameplay).

 

[CoffeeSaint]

Wartribe Academy [v1.9.6 Public] [Mr.Rooster]

thanks, mate!

Please don't. It's only been 3 damned months. That's not that long, seriously

good attitude, CookieMonster;
I mean it.

cheers, mate.

 

[MikesDK]

If that's what you've taken away from the story, either you're only five minutes in or you haven't been paying attention.

ETA: It's even right there in the OP:

Sure they do, but that dosent change that their main goal is to marry MC to help their own families/city by gaining a powerfull ally, so putting that at risk doing what they do still dosent make much sense atleast not to me, if that other agenda could change it so it would make sense i dont know since the second i see Magna with the other girl i would say bye bye to her and never get to the point where it might be explained why she fucks around, since it dosent paint the picture of her being serious with wanting to be with MC if shes already fucking others while trying to win MC over...

Also found it a bit idiotic that you cant say no and leave at Magnas lesbian scene, but your only given 2 choices if you want to fuck the random girl first or second... that really needed a no thanks im leaving choice, since its pretty much rape when the girl never gives concent to be fucked by MC.

But people see things diffrently and like diffrent things which is fine, i just wanted to know if its at all possible to skip those two girls if you dont want anything to do with them and still be able to play the rest of the story.

 

[Spyderwraith]

There seems to be an issue, I am at the point in the Twins story line where it says progress with Pricilla to upgrade the bathhouse, but when I go to Pricilla in the fast travel event screen it just goes to Fredricka and i can Fuck her and that's it?

 

[MrRooster]

I think while the fast travel system with the girls solves the girl (i.e. Love interest) specific events by putting it in entirely VN mode with the player seeing whether they're up to date or not, those don't take into account all the events which happen in the game that is either the main story or involving multiple characters.
...
And don't get me wrong, I like the story of the game a lot.
It's just that these additional system (like the Journal or another VN mode for non LI specific events ) will go a long way in making the game feel more player friendly and less of a chore in terms of the gameplay).

You're right about the features. Honestly, at the start I didn't expect to have so many characters. I meant to focus on mainly our 9 point cast and their "friends." But that quickly got out of hand. I have plans to sharpen the game after I finish the first chapter (Which we are on now) Frankly, it's so long I might call it Book 1 Instead of Chapter 1. But 2.0.0 will finish this "book" and after that I will sharpen the features.

Also found it a bit idiotic that you cant say no and leave at Magnas lesbian scene, but your only given 2 choices if you want to fuck the random girl first or second... that really needed a no thanks im leaving choice, since its pretty much rape when the girl never gives concent to be fucked by MC.

But people see things diffrently and like diffrent things which is fine, i just wanted to know if its at all possible to skip those two girls if you dont want anything to do with them and still be able to play the rest of the story.

Frankly, the game might not be for you. I'm sadden by that because I would hope it was. You have a good point that certain options should be avoidable. Early in production I didn't include the option to skip all of those as often as I'd like. That's a big part of why I am reworking some of the earliest content. It was from years ago. Now I've made it a staple to be able to skip any lewd content in newer releases.

As for the notion of Magna's character not making sense, I am of the opinion she can realize the gravity of the situation while still wanting to appeal to her own desires. That just might not appeal to you, and again that's fair. The way I see it, Magna feels like the MC and she work well together, and she's happy to be with the MC, but not at the cost of her own character. But as always, thank you for playing and engaging with the product!

There seems to be an issue, I am at the point in the Twins story line where it says progress with Pricilla to upgrade the bathhouse, but when I go to Pricilla in the fast travel event screen it just goes to Fredricka and i can Fuck her and that's it?

Could be a bug. There are always some of those hanging around.
Could you do me a favor and tell me what it says in the character logs for Priscilla and the Twins exactly?
Knowing what it says, I can chase the issue easier.

And thank you for playing!

 

[MrRooster]

Just ran into that dialogue for the festival without renders... the dev should really remove all that. It was quite confusing until I checked the code:

View attachment 3448171

Yes! Thank you. I have fixed this for the version I intend to release tomorrow.

Updated 7 scenes for Rhea's more affectionate route, but I can't find it. it say End of 1.9.6 content

Rhea's scenes are remade, meaning her early scenes are the ones that are changed. They won't show up in a current save, you would have to start a new one to see them. But- for version 1.9.6 and 1.9.7 you should be able to see them in the replay gallery, if you don't feel like start a new file to know what changed.

Seems like it's time to restart my save.

Events is out of order,

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That shouldn't happen even on an older save. I will look into that >.>
Thank you for the report

 

[ZathuraVentura]

Rhea's scenes are remade, meaning her early scenes are the ones that are changed. They won't show up in a current save, you would have to start a new one to see them. But- for version 1.9.6 and 1.9.7 you should be able to see them in the replay gallery, if you don't feel like start a new file to know what changed.

I've got a bug to report: Rhea's "Rhea Disturbed" event is using the same CGs as her "Bar visit" event.

 

[JJJ84]

You're right about the features. Honestly, at the start I didn't expect to have so many characters. I meant to focus on mainly our 9 point cast and their "friends." But that quickly got out of hand. I have plans to sharpen the game after I finish the first chapter (Which we are on now) Frankly, it's so long I might call it Book 1 Instead of Chapter 1. But 2.0.0 will finish this "book" and after that I will sharpen the features.

Well, that's good to hear.

One other thing, I noticed this while playing through;

Spoiler: Feels like there are renders.....missing

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[Libermann9]

is there the body swap scene in this update?

 

[MikesDK]

Frankly, the game might not be for you. I'm sadden by that because I would hope it was. You have a good point that certain options should be avoidable. Early in production I didn't include the option to skip all of those as often as I'd like. That's a big part of why I am reworking some of the earliest content. It was from years ago. Now I've made it a staple to be able to skip any lewd content in newer releases.

As for the notion of Magna's character not making sense, I am of the opinion she can realize the gravity of the situation while still wanting to appeal to her own desires. That just might not appeal to you, and again that's fair. The way I see it, Magna feels like the MC and she work well together, and she's happy to be with the MC, but not at the cost of her own character. But as always, thank you for playing and engaging with the product!

And thank you for playing!

You will never be able to make 100% of the players happy and i know its take a shit ton of work to do branching with so many characters in a game, but thats also what can make a game great when done right, game isent bad but your right it wasent for me.

The biggest problem i had was not being able to truely pick your potential wife or wives, like the Rhea and Magna i would like to have been able to dump them, mostly Rhea since she was trying to hide having a relationship behind MCs back and i dident really like her personality either, where Magna atleast invited him to join in, but given the chance i would have dumped them both and i sure as hell wouldent invite Rheas girlfriend to work for me knowing Rheas history of cheating, but that comes down to personaly taste and if you like all the lesbian stuff or not.

And about Magna i felt like it would be more importen for her to become hes wife then just having pointless sex with someone else that she dosent even love, atleast thats what story makes it feel like and since Magna dosent know anything about MC and what hes into then doing that lesbian scene is a huge risk without talking to MC first, but if shes fine with losing MC due to such things then fair enough but wouldent really suit the story in my mind.

I know MC has been written to be in lala land when it comes to pussy he just accepts everything which made him feel to submissive to me personaly and he feels noting like a barbarian warrior or king to me when he cant even speake up and put the LIs in their place or dump them, he acts more like Barney singing "i love you, you love me" he just needs the purple suit.

The type of VNs i like is where you can play MC the way you want to as the player, meaning if i want to dump someone or atleast not be in sexual relationship with them then thats should be an option, for story you can still be friends with them so you can follow their storyline just without sex scenes.

I did try to skip both Magna and Rhea, but got forced to follow their storys or you cant write the letter to MCs father, so skiping a LI by not doing questline with her isent possible either in case someone in here wonders about that like i did

 

[taler]

You will never be able to make 100% of the players happy and i know its take a shit ton of work to do branching with so many characters in a game, but thats also what can make a game great when done right, game isent bad but your right it wasent for me.

The biggest problem i had was not being able to truely pick your potential wife or wives, like the Rhea and Magna i would like to have been able to dump them, mostly Rhea since she was trying to hide having a relationship behind MCs back and i dident really like her personality either, where Magna atleast invited him to join in, but given the chance i would have dumped them both and i sure as hell wouldent invite Rheas girlfriend to work for me knowing Rheas history of cheating, but that comes down to personaly taste and if you like all the lesbian stuff or not.

And about Magna i felt like it would be more importen for her to become hes wife then just having pointless sex with someone else that she dosent even love, atleast thats what story makes it feel like and since Magna dosent know anything about MC and what hes into then doing that lesbian scene is a huge risk without talking to MC first, but if shes fine with losing MC due to such things then fair enough but wouldent really suit the story in my mind.

I know MC has been written to be in lala land when it comes to pussy he just accepts everything which made him feel to submissive to me personaly and he feels noting like a barbarian warrior or king to me when he cant even speake up and put the LIs in their place or dump them, he acts more like Barney singing "i love you, you love me" he just needs the purple suit.

The type of VNs i like is where you can play MC the way you want to as the player, meaning if i want to dump someone or atleast not be in sexual relationship with them then thats should be an option, for story you can still be friends with them so you can follow their storyline just without sex scenes.

I did try to skip both Magna and Rhea, but got forced to follow their storys or you cant write the letter to MCs father, so skiping a LI by not doing questline with her isent possible either in case someone in here wonders about that like i did

One day we'll have AI vns where this will be possible.

 

[MikesDK]

One day we'll have AI vns where this will be possible.

There are quite a few games out there where you can do just as you like when it comes to relationships, some you can even do the LIs storylines while just being friends so it can be done
In a game like this one i think it would be harder due to the number of LIs got a bit out of hand, but could have been done for atleast main girls and then option to say no for the rest since most arent story related so it wouldent matter much.

 

[taler]

There are quite a few games out there where you can do just as you like when it comes to relationships, some you can even do the LIs storylines while just being friends so it can be done
In a game like this one i think it would be harder due to the number of LIs got a bit out of hand, but could have been done for atleast main girls and then option to say no for the rest since most arent story related so it wouldent matter much.

You can't really have a well-integrated main story if some characters are optional. I'm guessing some of the other games just have options that you like, but it wouldn't really be "The type of VNs i like is where you can play MC the way you want to as the player", since they also only have like 2 options at max and it's not necessarily what i would want. I've only seen that type of thing on

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and not in any VN.

 

[Spyderwraith]

I checked the logs like you mentioned, turns out I just had to go find pricilla by the entrance at a lake- Crisis averted for the moment, unless you want to fix the fast travel for that section

 

[MrRooster]

I checked the logs like you mentioned, turns out I just had to go find pricilla by the entrance at a lake- Crisis averted for the moment, unless you want to fix the fast travel for that section

Yes! I actually do want to adjust the fast travel to account for instances like those.
When the stories intertwine the code becomes like spaghetti. I'll make a note of this for my long list.

I've got a bug to report: Rhea's "Rhea Disturbed" event is using the same CGs as her "Bar visit" event.

Thank you, I am fixing that now!

is there the body swap scene in this update?

No. >.> Very sorry. There are some shared sensation scenes, but if you are looking for a Male to Female body swap that doesn't exist. Sorry that tag is misleading. I can try to get it removed.

 

[MikesDK]

You can't really have a well-integrated main story if some characters are optional. I'm guessing some of the other games just have options that you like, but it wouldn't really be "The type of VNs i like is where you can play MC the way you want to as the player", since they also only have like 2 options at max and it's not necessarily what i would want. I've only seen that type of thing on

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and not in any VN.

But you are worng, there are plenty of well integrated main stories with optional main characters when it comes to relationships, sex talk is just kept to a minimum or none at all outside sex scenes, that way it barely changes anything for the main story and even easiere when game has no pregnancy which is why alot of games dosent have that, but some has optional harems like "A Foreign World", "Genex Love", "16 years later" all games where you can go full harem or stay faithfull to just a single one and it dosent effect main story in any way, even big harem games like "Lust Academy" that has 40+ LIs where not a single one is forced and you can choose if you want friendship or sexual relationship with any of them or none of them and still do their questlines either way.

 

[taler]

But you are worng, there are plenty of well integrated main stories with optional main characters when it comes to relationships, sex talk is just kept to a minimum or none at all outside sex scenes, that way it barely changes anything for the main story and even easiere when game has no pregnancy which is why alot of games dosent have that, but some has optional harems like "A Foreign World", "Genex Love", "16 years later" all games where you can go full harem or stay faithfull to just a single one and it dosent effect main story in any way, even big harem games like "Lust Academy" that has 40+ LIs where not a single one is forced and you can choose if you want friendship or sexual relationship with any of them or none of them and still do their questlines either way.

That's what I said. You're just okay with the choice between having sex or not having sex with a character. That's not "where you can play MC the way you want to as the player". If I want to have a character beheaded I can't. You can't integrate that into the main story. The main story also doesn't take into account whether you have a big harem or not, the story just stays very small and self contained so that the harem characters are interchangable. That's not "integrated" in my book.