No games here are ever really finished. The difference between a finished game and an abandoned game, is only whether the dev has said it's finished or not. All the "finished" games I've played so far should really have the abandoned tag instead, as they all have MANY loose ends with statements like "under construction".
Honestly I like the VR in-game aspect of the game, but I fear too much development time does and will go to the "IRL" part.
As it is, this game is 2 games in one.
Devs should focus on one aspect of it. I understand they trying to do their own Eternum here, but in Eternum everything revolves around the in-game in-context, so it works (and even then there's people that dislike how much focus the IRL part gets). Here both sides of the game are disconnected beyond the GF and ntr.
Even more, we play 2 different characters, chad-to-be IRL and slut-to-be in-game. Is really disjointed, so it does close to 0 sense to me.
I do think the in-game slut-to-be is the part of the game that's attracting attention -regardless the ntr- so I think they should focus on that, but if they pick the chad-or cuck-to-be IRL part, well, is their game. Botton line, they should pick one, cuz the IRL beyond the GF can be a pain to go through if you not here for that, and I imagine the same will be truth for many who are here for the IRL part.
As it is, this game is 2 games in one.
Devs should focus on one aspect of it. I understand they trying to do their own Eternum here, but in Eternum everything revolves around the in-game in-context, so it works (and even then there's people that dislike how much focus the IRL part gets). Here both sides of the game are disconnected beyond the GF and ntr.
Even more, we play 2 different characters, chad-to-be IRL and slut-to-be in-game. Is really disjointed, so it does close to 0 sense to me.
I do think the in-game slut-to-be is the part of the game that's attracting attention -regardless the ntr- so I think they should focus on that, but if they pick the chad-or cuck-to-be IRL part, well, is their game. Botton line, they should pick one, cuz the IRL beyond the GF can be a pain to go through if you not here for that, and I imagine the same will be truth for many who are here for the IRL part.
i agree i feel like they are doubling their work , the IRL should be getting little content compared to the in VR world , plus i know i said it before but the new VR look for the mc is horrible ...
Until now the most time has been spend on rewriting the game mechanics and they still works like s....
I totally disagree. The 2 stories are so deeply integrated that if you remove one, the other falls apart completely. It's therefore 1 story, and so far the story line is the least problem with this game IMHO.
I've never played Eternum, but I've played Club Detention, where you also have 2 parallel, but deeply integrated stories. And here you also have the battle between those who wants more focus on the club and those who want more focus on the world outside the club. On top of that. Club detention is now a couple of years old, and it's pretty clear that what the dev envisioned back then is something quite different today. But all in all. It's 1 game with 1 story, and it works well.
Bottom line. 2 parallel but deeply integrated story lines are pretty rare. If you don't like it, go play one of the 1000 games that has a classic single story line.
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Please expand on how boss and mother story lines currently play into the VR in-game.
Even sister story line is out there for the purpose of incest / SAO-like feel. If you do want you could even drop GF and integrate GF and sister story lines into one, keeping the story progression and feel of both but streamlining development.
Or combine GF's friends and sister into one character, you keep the ntr while maintaining everything there is.
Yes, everyone likes branching and deep stories, but no one can deny these multiple stories and characters all require development time and resources. At some point you gotta make amends with that you don't require 20 characters and plots to make an interesting story. Expedition 33 has less characters than this game.
Less is more in most instances. Do we really need the friend in work/boss plot line? Do we need the father? Sure, again, rich plots are great, but lets not fool ourselves; most developers try these grands visions they want to bring to life but soon realize is simply not feasible. And at that point cutting them out and fixing the plots to make sense would take even greater time and at that point many simply drop the projects.
We've seen this even with great names in the AAA industry when they try to go independent.
Yes, no doubt developer here has plans into bringing all these many characters into the VR game plot at some point, but is it worthy? And more importantly, is it doable? Specially if going with branching options. The more characters the more branching plot lines you got and the more complex it gets to keep things tight and coherent. We still don't have Winds of Winter because George RR Martin can't make sense to bring his many plot lines into one.
I haven't tried the game you mention, but in Eternum there's no branching. Is a linear story plot where everything clearly goes toward the same goal from the start; chad gets harem, all girls want MC's dick. Easy plot line to write.
This isn't like that. Here developer is hinting at chad, sharing, ntr and loyal lines for male MC side; and there's also the branching for female version. Then there's branching for black guy, for GF, for mother, for boss, for sister.
Anyone who thinks for even a second that many branching lines with that many characters is feasible is fooling themselves and will be highly disappointed when developer starts cutting them off, with the alternative being dropping the whole thing altogether out of burnout.
I like this game, only reason I even bother writing this, but I do feel this will be abandoned in less than a year or it will be take a whole year between updates simply because how complex to keep story lines connected will be.
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On discord dev stated that he currently not even fully work on this project:
So answer to question, when it comes out is "No one knows"
So answer to question, when it comes out is "No one knows"
The whole plot of this game is the 2 worlds. Without that it would just be yet another game in a million, and not even a good one. And yes. The dev is definitely trying to chew on more than he can manage, like most other dev's, and I won't be surprised if this game will have a very short life. But without the 2 worlds, it's doubtful that there would have been many playing it at all.
stop with this. not every side quest in beloved skyrim and the witcher is linked to the main plot. you dont have to keep everything connected more than just by a main character.
Developers are also humans and they can't satisfy everyone's busty aess at the same time.
??? Go read the full context of your quote, and you will see how wrong your comment is.
full context of what? you said "no games here are really finished". one example of treasure of nadia completely abolishes your statement, because there are games that are really finished on this site. yeah, my comment is very wrong in the full context. totally wrong. ewww, brutha, ewwww
Mann. No I have to teach you to read too. The full context is this
or you need to think a bit more. finished game has "the end". abandoned or developing game has no "the end". was geralt'story ended in the witcher 1 or 2? no, it continued even after the witcher 3, but those games were finished at some "the end" point. or would you say they were abandoned? same with all games on this or any else site. devs like nlt media have finished one (three so far) game and moved to another. other devs keep milking their sponsors by infinite remaking and remastering unfinished games.
so, read again your "context" and answer a simple question: is there ANY finished game on this site? teach yourself first, my dear friend. good luck
Please read what I wrote. "the end" is just the way dev's declare the game for completed or finished so they can get the completed tag instead of the abandoned tag. All games that has the completed tag has part where it says something like "more in later releases" or parts that simply ends in nothing, or statement like "please see xxx part 2 for further content". I therefore stand by my statement "The difference between games with a completed tag and an abandoned tag, is only whether the dev has said it's finished or not."
But I doubt we will ever agree, so this will be the last from me in our discussion on this subject.
