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Is there an option to say to the boss that if he ever tries to approach my wife again I will gut him right in the office with a serrated machete?
well, not yet, but fingers are crossed that this, or something equally satisfying will develop, maybe as an ending...:ROFLMAO:
Think it'd be awesome if Sarah and Eva get leverage on Neil, then start an online femdom site, with Neil as the star gimp...
just a thought...:ROFLMAO:
 
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Well, no. But the wife will be able to keep denying him forever.
Sad, I wish VNs gave us an option to treat those "bulls" like that.

To bring up some good stuff too - Harmony Haven seems to be a nice slow-burn sharing game in-the-cooking. Liked the beginning so far. There will be an NTR route but it seems to get that you have to neglect your wife and be a nasty hubby
 
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Is there an option to say to the boss that if he ever tries to approach my wife again I will gut him right in the office with a serrated machete?
Well, no. But the wife will be able to keep denying him forever.
SinisterPortal I'd make a suggestion to the dev that the wife could praise her husband in her denials (if she doesn't already). Even if the boss keeps his smirk, should be more of a forced smirk. Hope she can also talk about it with her husband and they end up unbothered, laughing it off or finding a way to use him.
There's a lot of comments in WoD, from me and others, about the couple using that plot to "use" Neil for their game, before "sticking it" to him... But again, personally, I ain't sharing her with Neil, at all, never, nope, not gonna happen... Sleaze bags and hobos ain't getting near my princess...:ROFLMAO:
Been trying to connect the dots, so it seems like, up to this moment, if you share your "princess" with Neil, it's all to his advantage and you get no satisfaction out of it? I sure hope this changes, cause if this is the case, I'm with you, can't share her with a guy who would flaunt it as his conquest any more than I would share Claire with the neighbour in BILH after watching the one scene. So, I guess, it's less "steamy" scenes for me, until the dev makes it more palatable. Honestly, it wouldn't be enough that that the ending were fully satisfying from a "sticking it up to Neil" POV, I couldn't stomach it if there were any humiliation implied (either by dialogue or simply by the situation making the MC look weak).
To bring up some good stuff too - Harmony Haven seems to be a nice slow-burn sharing game in-the-cooking. Liked the beginning so far. There will be an NTR route but it seems to get that you have to neglect your wife and be a nasty hubby
That's good to know, I played that when it launched and wasn't sure which way it was going to go. It sure was a slow burn, but the cheating opportunities started coming before any sharing. Or maybe I'm mistaking it for Heated Hashtag? Damned HH games, always mixing them up. I think it was Hashtag that you weren't even in a relationship with the main LI to begin with, and the game never gave you an opportunity to make a move for the first 3 or 4 episodes, made me think some other guy was going to get her first.
 
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speaking about weird introduction into sharing, I don't know why some devs keep trying to make sharing as unappealing as possible. E.g. in Whispers of Desire the wife gets hired into the same company as her husband. For some reason, the boss and the corporate psychologist decide to turn the husband into a cuckold and the wife into a hotwife. So they start plotting against this couple. They conceive sophisticated plans, lie to both of them, manipulate them. I thought - wtf? Is this the least sexy way to introduce you into the lifestyle? All it makes me want is either to
1) try fighting back and ruin the weird plans of these weird people
2) stop playing the game (which I did)
As much as I hate Neil, I enjoy this game on the sharing/swinging path so far. You can totally deny Neil, which is what I am doing. For me, he's handling it way better than the majority of similiar type games out right now.
 
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Whispers of Desire is weird. Like others have said the office makes no sense. No office has a psychologist. The boss (Neil) is a greasy piece of shit. There is no outright way to avoid him, but you can make choices against him. Also, the dev commented that it would be possible to avoid boss, but you would miss "steamy" scenes. Like at this point, to me, every man on Earth besides the boss can fuck the wife.
 

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Been trying to connect the dots, so it seems like, up to this moment, if you share your "princess" with Neil, it's all to his advantage and you get no satisfaction out of it? I sure hope this changes, cause if this is the case, I'm with you, can't share her with a guy who would flaunt it as his conquest any more than I would share Claire with the neighbour in BILH after watching the one scene.
Yes. That is my one complaint about WoD... Alex and Sarah don't talk to one another...
On the "sharing" path, they should absolutely be talking about Neil & what they're talking about with Eva...
It would open up so much with the "sharing" story that would "feel good", no matter what else is going on around them.
But, I don't know how much more work that would cause. Seems like same/similar story line & renders, just different "Text", but idk...lol
 

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Yes. That is my one complaint about WoD... Alex and Sarah don't talk to one another...
On the "sharing" path, they should absolutely be talking about Neil & what they're talking about with Eva...
It would open up so much with the "sharing" story that would "feel good", no matter what else is going on around them.
But, I don't know how much more work that would cause. Seems like same/similar story line & renders, just different "Text", but idk...lol
Did Fable respond to comments about them not talking about everything? I mean, except for scenes where they both are present, I don't even count as sharing any scenes with other people that they don't either witness, participate or talk about. That's free pass (at best) and boooooring af
 
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Did Fable respond to comments about them not talking about everything? I mean, except for scenes where they both are present, I don't even count as sharing any scenes with other people that they don't either witness, participate or talk about. That's free pass (at best) and boooooring af
Fable may have, but I'm not watching that closely.
Couples can absolutely have a dancing around the elephant in the room or reluctant to talk about hidden fantasies phase, but at some point, that has to end if the relationship is going to survive, let alone get stronger...

And right now.. I have max relationship points... and it's baffling that they aren't talking about this stuff, yet...
Seems like they'll get there, eventually...lol
 
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Fable may have, but I'm not watching that closely.
Couples can absolutely have a dancing around the elephant in the room or reluctant to talk about hidden fantasies phase, but at some point, that has to end if the relationship is going to survive, let alone get stronger...

And right now.. I have max relationship points... and it's baffling that they aren't talking about this stuff, yet...
Seems like they'll get there, eventually...lol
When I was last on discord with Fable, there were several people asking about "the discussion".
It was brought up on the very same day here in comments as the initial demo release. People went to a lot of trouble to explain why it was important. A lot. Here and discord...
Fable kept promising "next update", next update, next update.........so, I left the discord, lol.
I told him I ain't playing the game at all until it happens. So, I wait.....
 
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Fable may have, but I'm not watching that closely.
Couples can absolutely have a dancing around the elephant in the room or reluctant to talk about hidden fantasies phase, but at some point, that has to end if the relationship is going to survive, let alone get stronger...
To me it's not that they can't have a "phase", but to make it the entire game or even a major part of it swings too much towards the cheating side, shows both as weak-willed/hesitant/indecisive and, mostly, just makes for a ton of missed opportunities where a lot of teasing could have taken place. If "sharing" isn't shared, what's the difference between that, and a game where multiple (unrelated) protagonists have sex with multiple others?
When I was last on discord with Fable, there were several people asking about "the discussion".
That's already less that optimal. Means they WERE hesitant about it (despite having agreed to share, I presume)? I'll grant it, characters don't have to be always perfect, but it's hugely frustrating when an obvious and simple matter as being honest and forward with your partner isn't an option. They may behave like they're dominant with everyone else, but that will still make me feel like I'm railroaded along the story. At that point, I'd prefer it to be purely kinetic, and that my choices were reduced to "do I want to follow this story, or not".
 
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To me it's not that they can't have a "phase", but to make it the entire game or even a major part of it swings too much towards the cheating side, shows both as weak-willed/hesitant/indecisive and, mostly, just makes for a ton of missed opportunities where a lot of teasing or could have taken place. If "sharing" isn't shared, what's the difference between that, and a game where multiple (unrelated) protagonists have sex with multiple others?

That's already less that optimal. Means they WERE hesitant about it (despite having agreed to share, I presume)? I'll grant it, characters don't have to be always perfect, but it's hugely frustrating when an obvious and simple matter as being honest and forward with your partner isn't an option. They may behave like they're dominant with everyone else, but that will still make me feel like I'm railroaded along the story. At that point, I'd prefer it to be purely kinetic, and that my choices were reduced to "do I want to follow this story, or not".
Fully agree.
My only rationale, is "Whispers" of Desire, not open conversations about desires...:ROFLMAO:
It seems Fable has a good cheating, NTR, and cuckold/hotwife story/concept in mind, and struggling to fit a solid "sharing" story in with it. I think it'll get there, just a bumpy pot holed filled ride until we arrive...:ROFLMAO:
 

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To me it's not that they can't have a "phase", but to make it the entire game or even a major part of it swings too much towards the cheating side, shows both as weak-willed/hesitant/indecisive and, mostly, just makes for a ton of missed opportunities where a lot of teasing or could have taken place. If "sharing" isn't shared, what's the difference between that, and a game where multiple (unrelated) protagonists have sex with multiple others?

That's already less that optimal. Means they WERE hesitant about it (despite having agreed to share, I presume)? I'll grant it, characters don't have to be always perfect, but it's hugely frustrating when an obvious and simple matter as being honest and forward with your partner isn't an option. They may behave like they're dominant with everyone else, but that will still make me feel like I'm railroaded along the story. At that point, I'd prefer it to be purely kinetic, and that my choices were reduced to "do I want to follow this story, or not".
For mine, it just shows a dev with zero understanding of the lifestyle they are attempting to write into their narrative.
The mere fact that it had to be pointed out, in the first place, that honesty was so important, tells me a lot.
A lot of devs just think that an open or sharing relationship is just ntr without the cheating, or just a striaght up cuck story with maybe a twist, and that the twist is the exciting bit that the dev believes will attract players, in full ignorance of one of the main priniciples of any shared or open lifestyle.
I do not enjoy NTR-based games that just alter a few dialogues and call it "sharing", all while running the exact same story.
WoD may not be that, and in fact holds a lot of promise to not be that way at all, because it is promised to be choice based for every character and action. But, we will see, especially if that discussion just never takes place, or we have to wait a year until one of them finally freaks out after discovering something happening with the partner.
Complicity is not cooperation...
 

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I do not enjoy NTR-based games that just alter a few dialogues and call it "sharing", all while running the exact same story.
WoD may not be that, and in fact holds a lot of promise to not be that way at all, because it is promised to be choice based for every character and action.
Hope the dev's getting more feedback like this. I think it's fair to give the benefit of doubt at the same time as one points out the obvious flaws where sharing is concerned. Here, I'm used to seeing balanced criticism, but on most threads, you see mostly whining and bitching. And sometimes it's not even that, but seems so when we start supporting each other's criticism like a snowball effect ;) Even when I agree with the critics, it's hard for me not to imagine even stout creators being disheartened by mostly negative feedback, especially when they realise they may have had a poor idea (or simply a different idea) of what people seek in a sharing path without cheating, or cucking. Some might lose interest in a path they're not comfortable with, some might double down, maybe only a few would try to understand where the numerous critics come from. So, kudos for supportive feedback.
 

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I do hope with Shadows of Ambition transitioning from a kinetic novel to a proper VN will hopefully also help with people trying out the game.
Heya, for myself, yes, it does. I have tried purely kinetic novels but, to be fair, I haven't really stuck with any except for Cozy Cafe. For my part, I understand that doing a super complicated branching AVN is really hard, so I am ok with the story being mostly kinetic if I get at least variations on scenes, so the story beats may be exactly the same, but a dialogue here or there changes based on choices, or a sex scene has 2-3 variations based on what I chose to do on it.

Ideally I would prefer also some choices regarding things like how dominant/agreeable my character is, or whether he likes some things or not. Nothing puts me off more for example than seeing my MC saying things like "oh yes, I hate pubic hair" or going with a footjob, as my own opinions are totally different. I do not think it would be too difficult for most devs to create an alternate dialogue where the MC can chose to say whether he likes something or not, and alternative scenes for things like footjobs to turn them into handjobs/blowjobs for those of use who do not like them.

I haven't tried Shadows of Ambition yet, so I do not know how much it is kinetic or not, but giving the reader/player some choices it is critical for me when it comes to identifying with the MC and thus, to keep reading.
 

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It is a hard juxtaposition to balance, when considering dual-MC games, and there are at least a few who get it right, thankfully.
Having an MMC that keeps the player satisfied with his characteristics, be they meek or dominant, depending on the situation, whilst still not making him some simp/wimp who may as well not even figure in the story, he has such little influence on outcomes.
Having an FMC who embodies the desirable traits for the story, while still engaging with the MMC in an appropriate fashion, is also hard, because the tendency is too often just to turn her into some cock-hungry cheater, instead of a reliable, honest and cooperative partner in adventures.

Here, in this thread, we ask a lot of devs really, but hopefully there are a few who may come and read these comments and become inspired to create more inclusive stories amongst their "deviate" ideas, for us to enjoy as much as the ubiquitous and vociferous NTR-cheating-slut crowd seem to get, seemingly without even asking....

In the meantime, with the dearth of actually great sharing/swinging games, its just as well our combined tastes are varied enough to able to go off and play other genres as well, right? Or it could get dire indeed in here, haha...
(no offense to this great list Johnny)
 
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Found this list about a year ago and, right after, BILH rebooted with the promise (unkept) of a sharing route, and the "AI slop suite" took traction, with about half a dozen games suddenly going in the right direction, amidst a much greater wave of cuck phone games, which I simply ignored. Selective attention made me convince myself that the tide might have been changing in favour of stag/vixen games. But nothing seems to have changed (for the better). The AI slop has mostly delivered so far, but that's it. Can't think of a single DAZ game that's less than a year old since first release, where sharing goes along with my preferred fantasy - what there is, was already around by then, and the pool might have shrunk from games abandoned or that shifted to simp/cuckold tone.
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Just finished and removed Midlife Crisis to free up space, but kept the savegames... Just in case :LOL:
 
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Just finished and removed Midlife Crisis to free up space, but kept the savegames... Just in case :LOL:
Crazy as it might seem, I have kept the save folder for every version of every game (avn) I have played.
Just in case. It has come in handy. Only takes up 30Gb in 581 folders atm. (probly half of that, or maybe more, is actually kept videos from particular ones, lol)...haha, me an' my ocd.....
 
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Crazy as it might seem, I have kept the save folder for every version of every game (avn) I have played.
Just in case. It has come in handy. Only takes up 30Gb in 581 folders atm. (probly half of that, or maybe more, is actually kept videos from particular ones, lol)...haha, me an' my ocd.....
I do the same, haven't done it always but lately even for games that are marked as completed. You never know!
 
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Skimmed through Harmony Haven. It does seem to be a quality game in the making. Also it seems to be a rare example of a primary Netorase game that happen to have a (light) NTR route. On the Netorase route not much content so far - a few webcam shows and a roleplay in the bed (the husband pretends to be another man). So really slow burn but this is the case when it makes it more believable and immersive. The MC can be very dominant and smash faces left and right (I love it) - actually the more you kick asses, the better the MC becomes at it. So it pays off to resolve to violence at every opportunity just to raise the skill. A "problem" here is that on the dominant path the MC makes his hot stepmom and her hot daughter extremely wet and it's hard to resist the temptation to cheat with them. If you want to, tho, you can get NTS content with the stepmom - she has a "suitor" and you can either tell him to fuck off or watch him pound her - but it's not my type of NTS (you can also do neither - just let them date without you watching). Besides the stepmom and her daughter, you can also cheat with a hot collegue. Damn, all girls are hot here so I'm definitely doing a cheater playthrough next. You can also get a permission from the wife to do things with other girls, but she is not happy about it and agrees only because she doesn't want to lose you - so it's rather selfish on the husband's part. The wife can also cheat, there are two options - a black guy and a white guy. If she starts relationship with the black guy - it's just lust, without hard emotions. It's kind of cheating I can even have on my NTS playthrough. With the white guy it's more emotional and NTRish. With the black guy only 2 handjobs available, and with the white guy only a blowjob. Actually scenes with the black guy come after the husbands confession about his NTS fetish, so technically you can frame it as her just exploring it, not cheating, but I declined that - I will wait until the spouses have explicit agreement about such things.

PS oh actually the wife can "cheat" a little with the young gardener, but it's just light touching so far. I think he will certainly appear in there sharing route. He is that type of shy virgin boy that is good as the first sharing partner for your MILF wife.

But yeah, for sharing, I'd wait until chapter 3 becomes available. It is already available on patreon, but no hero here on F95 yet
 
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I mostly disagree with what you guys have said about WoD. I am a big sharing/swinging fan and was reluctant about it in the beginning, but he has not done anything that is a red flag to me. Neil is a critical part of the story, so long as I can keep him away from Sarah, I'm fine if he's in the game. He is an important part for the cheating paths, he can't 'go away'. The gym couple look like a perfect opportunity for them to do some swinging. I don't like Erik, so I'm keeping him away also. Also the teasing with Louis has been fun.

I mean compared to some other similar games that came out at the sametime, I think it's doing better.
 
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