This devs make Ocean look competent, that takes specific talent i guess
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Either Maple or Holly (or both) would be amazing
- May 13, 2018
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As far as I know it was exactly Holly who won the patreon poll so 0.8 will indeed be about her.
- Jun 17, 2019
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I'll just link this comment since everything is explained there. Patrons voted for longer updates starting with 0.4, and the size of each one of those 3 updates has been basically the same as the first 3 combined, with more complex art and coding interactions explaining the progressively longer dev cycles. This time, the raw word count before the polishing phase is said to be about 1/3 of the overall content so far (it will be trimmed down, as explained in the las dev comment). Add a newborn and a bad surgery to the mix, which would grant them about 6 months of paid leave if they were working under contract for a third party, and we are just slightly off their usual schedule, considering the alleged work (and still on it if we are indulgent with the issues that tend to arise when taking care of a newborn 24/7 and the changes this meant in their usual workflow, as they used to work simultaneously and they are now working on turns, which slow things down a little bit as they can't communicate and fix on the spot the issues they detect with each other's work).
About the potential loss of interest, that's relatively true. But you should take into account that a new update will bring new players (and patrons) in, and if devs prove to be trustworthy by releasing a 'quicker' 0.8 update, most of this criticism will be forgotten or at least put away for another year or more. Right now, that may be seen as a big if, for sure, but it's a totally possible outcome, and that potential loss of interest won't be an actual problem at all.
As Kisama has tried to explain, those figures are not natural fraction numbers but just common IT notation. In v0.6.02, the digit before the first period (0) means this is an uncompleted version of the planned full game (which will be v1.0), while the second number (6) indicates the accumulative big update order -meaning there have been 5 big updates before this one; and the third number after the second period (02) means this is the second bugfix for that 6th version. So after the v0.9 they'll release the tenth big update, which will be named v0.10, then they'll release v0.11, and so on, until they release the last update which will be v1.0 anyway, no matter what name had the previous one. So fear not, there are still more than 4 updates to get there.
- Aug 1, 2022
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Because the whole point is to never bounce back.
Why return to regular updates when people still throw you money for nothing?
This game will never have regular updates unless something major worldwide happens again like the corona pandemic.
- May 5, 2024
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Well, in what disturbed math 0.10 comes after 0.9 ? I never understood these devs that do it like that. 0.1 is the same thing in math as 0.10. In human readable terms, maybe. But the correct way if you want to go from 0 to 1 is 0.01, 0.02... 0.09, 0.1, etc. And there are enough devs here that do that. I guess it's a good indicator on how the dev thinks, as we can see here in this case, by the his extensive knowledge and fast work
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- Jun 17, 2019
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Again, because this is not maths, but a rather common software notation. First block to tell if the software version can be considered a completed work or not (v0, v1, v2...), second block to describe how many main updates have been released in order to complete that work (0.1, 0.2... 0.9, 0.10... 0.34 or whatever), third block to tell apart minor updates and hotfixes (0.1.01, 0.6.02), and there could be even more blocks after that if devs think they are needed to give enough accurate info about how development is going. You can check the 'About' section in any renpy game and see how renpy itself manages its own versions, then demand them to make that numbers 'human readable' (spoiler: they might tell you it's already 'human readable' as long as said human knows what he's looking at, which doesn't seem your caseWell, in what disturbed math 0.10 comes after 0.9 ? I never understood these devs that do it like that. 0.1 is the same thing in math as 0.10. In human readable terms, maybe. But the correct way if you want to go from 0 to 1 is 0.01, 0.02... 0.09, 0.1, etc. And there are enough devs here that do that. I guess it's a good indicator on how the dev thinks, as we can see here in this case, by the his extensive knowledge and fast work
).Why does this game have the abandoned tag? Their patreon shows a work update from 3 days ago (can't see what it says as I'm not a patron). If there hasn't been a new update to the actual game in more than 6 months, then I kind of get it.
Legitimately asking
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Yes, the site rule is any games which go more than 18 months without an update get an "abandoned" tag, regardless of whether they are still actively being worked on.
Understand your point. And just to be clear, I love this game, I love the art, I love the characters and I love the story. I want it to be successful and if one day they will decide to do a sort of "phisical version" (I mean some special box with download code, artbook and maybe some extra content) I would be the first to support and pay even a big price (not joking). Just wanted to enter and discuss a bit on the situation after the "abandoned" tag appeared (I had almost a stroke when I saw it), despite I know this is due to precise F95 rules and probably it will be removed after next update, because in every contest (even in a porn site) is discussion and confrontation of different opinions that rise the level of the dialogue
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We're making up excuses and a bike again. People don't believe anything anymore, because a lot of good games have become just a fraudulent garbage dump, although they were promising before. The trouble with such developers is that they want money without doing anything, or rather pretending to do something. And they also allow themselves to be indignant at patrons for their questions, and fair questions and criticism. Everything is simple. Make the product in good faith and you will be rich. And when you start lying, coming up with excuses, it jeopardizes trust, although there is an example when patrons look like a flock of sheep that are sheared, and they are happy)
Lmao what a scam. Two months to fix the gameplay of a game without gameplay.
He is also putting the deadline conveniently at june, exactly one month before it can be said that the update required two years. He is clearly scamming, the update is ready and he is bullshitting for a couple of months to milk the patreons.
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Until recently, I did not want to believe that a project with such a beautiful visual could turn out to be a banal scam, but looking at this message...
For about SIX months, the picture on their website has been updated specifically in terms of bug fixes. And wow: it takes another TWO months for something that has already been fixed.
And the worst thing is, if something comes out in June or July, at least 1\10 from the 0.6 update, there will still be those who will continue to pay for it. A terrible development model. I would never have thought that I would write such a thing, but "Sad Crab" with their endless reworking of the same game in a circle - they look like very prolific developers (although the project there is a clean scam)
P.S. Apologize for the bad English.
- Jun 17, 2019
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Not sure what you mean by this. Here's the progress tracker from exactly 6 months ago:
And this is today's progress tracker:
As everyone can see, during the last six months they have been adding and completing new writing, code, posing, and audio tasks to complete the planned content: just looking at the total content bar, it went from 838/954 tasks to 1074/1076. Sure you can see the difference between those numbers, but let's make it even more clear: they completed 236 content-related tasks in this period, which means that up to 21.93% of the total content for this update has been completed within the last 6 months.
As they've explained in their weekly Patreon reports, and also to anyone asking in their free discord server, they are constantly checking parts of the game, replaying it, and going through that new content to find other things that should be improved and/or fixed, which is why many more edit and debug tasks have been added in this period, especially after the initially planned content was done. Those 'polish' tasks are currently being completed, going up from 407/440 tasks to 635/718 (the chart contains a typo and says 717). We're now fully deep in that polishing phase, and that dev's message you quoted explained what these still uncompleted tasks actually mean: rewriting some dialogues, creating a new scene, and so on. Of course, those weren't things already fixed (although it's possible that a new playthrough could lead devs to think some 'fixed' parts should still be improved despite having been 'fixed' months ago).
Anyway, this brief side-by-side comparison of those 2 graphics everyone can find in their Discord server makes it clear devs haven't been updating that tracker 'specifically in terms of bugfixing' for about six months, as you said. This polishing phase actually started on April 16th, and that's less than a month ago. Here's the progress tracker from that date:
So, your first post on this forum after almost 7 years may be your honest opinion, but it also contains totally wrong info and you're the only one who could tell us why you wanted to share that fake news, as it may mislead others. That's not leaving a good first impression.
- Aug 1, 2022
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Not matter how they twist it,the two extra months make zero sense.
But they make a lot of cents
Abandoned. Hope you are not paying money to these scam artists on Patreon.
People don't live as long as these guys plan to "develop" this game. 3 people I know who waited for an update to this game has already died. It looks like Stalker 2 but in the "adult theme" - the whole generation of people died waiting for the sequel. I guess they have to figure out their personal lives first, make more babies if necessary and stop scamming people out of their money. If my project would go forward as slow as theirs - the team would be disbanded and all people fired without compensation. With no excuses.