Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.03] [MagicNuts]

[PBS666]

It's been two years and two peoples full time job, that's ok progress to you?

It will be two years at the end of July. You know how a calendar works ?
Please stop spreading FUD.

 

[B_st_cloud]

It will be two years at the end of July. You know how a calendar works ?
Please stop spreading FUD.

Should have put almost two years, regardless "its not two years its only 18 months" isn't the win you think it is.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

Should have put almost two years, regardless "its not two years its only 18 months" isn't the win you think it is.

But, you know, year have 12 months. 18 month isnt year nor two years... Its somewhere in middle. Maybe somewhere is word for it.

 

[B_st_cloud]

I meant it will most likely be two years for when the new update is on target for release, based on the discord it was at 90% in early December, if its 95 now. 3 months is a fair assessment to take the new update to June/ July . That's slow progress.

 

[PBS666]

Should have put almost two years, regardless "its not two years its only 18 months" isn't the win you think it is.

What "win" ? I'm too old for this kind of games.
Spare me another "witty" reply. Won't be seeing it.

 

[Jdsiis]

Wait, the last update for this game was 2 years ago? No wonder it got the abandoned tag.

Is that right? 0.6 -> 0.7 takes 2 years? If that's true, who the hell is still subbing on Patreon?

 

[PBS666]

Wait, the last update for this game was 2 years ago? No wonder it got the abandoned tag.

Is that right? 0.6 -> 0.7 takes 2 years? If that's true, who the hell is still subbing on Patreon?

No, it's not two years since the last update. Does nobody know how a calendar works anymore ?
2 years = 24 months, not 18.
Get your facts straight before you start spreading FUD.

 

[Jdsiis]

No, it's not two years since the last update. Does nobody know how a calendar works anymore ?
2 years = 24 months, not 18.
Get your facts straight before you start spreading FUD.

I was quoting from the latest updates page. Still 18 months is a crazy timeline for an update lol

 

[Derpsel]

I mean the current update is almost finished. The only reason why this one took so long is because it's only two devs and they had a baby, so there was at least 7 months they werent able to work on the game

7 months they were unable to sit down, even an hour a day to work on the game when they're getting paid 7k per month?

Insane copium.

 

[j4yj4m]

7 months they were unable to sit down, even an hour a day to work on the game when they're getting paid 7k per month?

Insane copium.

It's really up to the patrons in this case. If the sole artist (who I think we agree should not be temporarily replaced by someone else for the sake of consistency) gives birth, it's normal in most civilised contries to get parental leave. Where I'm living it's indeed quite normal to get at least a year. So it's understable that she took a real break for some time.

It takes 5 seconds to stop your contribution on patreon, so one would hope, that those people who think they didn't get what they gave their money for, have stopped giving long ago.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's pretty insane how many people demand that a monther of a newborn starts working again right away, just so they have their porn game. Then again, I'm not following this topic closely, so one may just ignore this comment...

 

[Conrad-N7]

ngl... 7k per month is fuck loads of money. One would expect enough work done per week that you dont have to wait 2 years for an actual content update. Gonna hope its not actual scam rolling or something and we get low quality update... but seriously, 2 years is bloody lot even with issues in life. Like... a mothers love had some serious issues and the dev made their update faster and issues sounded more serious... and they get paid only 1k ish a month lol

 

[Derpsel]

It's really up to the patrons in this case. If the sole artist (who I think we agree should not be temporarily replaced by someone else for the sake of consistency) gives birth, it's normal in most civilised contries to get parental leave. Where I'm living it's indeed quite normal to get at least a year. So it's understable that she took a real break for some time.

It takes 5 seconds to stop your contribution on patreon, so one would hope, that those people who think they didn't get what they gave their money for, have stopped giving long ago.

In the UK, you're right you can get that time off, but the person can also claim back all the money they make during it from HMRC, which they'd get around 90% of their already top wage.

I'd think the people funding you to work on a game, which literally cannot progress because the artist isn't working, should not be taking funds for no reason. The developer can also pause their patreon, but they didn't.

 

[j4yj4m]

I'd think the people funding you to work on a game, which literally cannot progress because the artist isn't working, should not be taking funds for no reason. The developer can also pause their patreon, but they didn't.

Why though? If people want to keep giving money, because they want to support the project, that's totally fine to me.

Those people who fund the game get very regular reports on patreon, so they are certainly able to decide - that's of course, as long as they care.

 

[Derpsel]

Why though? If people want to keep giving money, because they want to support the project, that's totally fine to me.

Those people who fund the game get very regular reports on patreon, so they are certainly able to decide - that's of course, as long as they care.

You know why so many companies are chasing subscription based models for everything right now? Because it's so easy for people to forget about the subscription and let it carry on. We don't actually know how many of their current backers are happy with giving them money. Evidence of this? Look at some of the years previous abandoned games, there's still people contributing on Patreon.

All of those weekly updates have less than 50-60 engaged contributers, out of 1850, that's not a good look.

 

[j4yj4m]

You know why so many companies are chasing subscription based models for everything right now? Because it's so easy for people to forget about the subscription and let it carry on. We don't actually know how many of their current backers are happy with giving them money. Evidence of this? Look at some of the years previous abandoned games, there's still people contributing on Patreon.

All of those weekly updates have less than 50-60 engaged contributers, out of 1850, that's not a good look.

Honestly, to me, that's personal responsibilty. They have been as transparent as it gets.

But maybe that's just my personal attitude towards people who can't handle subscriptions in general. It's simply their ineptitude, which should not be prioritized above those who really want to give money.

There will still be people out there who want to to support the devs, there'll still be people who play the game for the first time and may want to pay a few $ for that, etc. - to me, those are more important than those who are too lazy to handle their own money.

 

[Derpsel]

Honestly, to me, that's simply called personal responsibilty. They have been as transparent as it gets.

But maybe that's just my personal attitude towards people who can't handle subscriptions in general. It's simply their ineptitude, which should not be prioritized above those who really want to give money.

There will still be people out there who want to to support the devs, there'll still be people who play the game for the first time and may want to pay a few $ for that, etc. - to me, those are more important than those who are too lazy to handle their money.

That's where we disagree I guess, over 340 people are still contributing to Dark Silver on Patreon, he's released 3 games and abandoned every single one, are you suggesting people are still attempting to support him? I don't think so.

I understand if people want to support it, and that's fair enough, I just don't believe that 1850 people who are paying month to month are happy with the progress, or the excuses as to why it's been so slow.

 

[DD_King]

You live with your parents or you have no idea how much it costs to hire people.
If €6,889/month, before Patreon's cut and before taxes, is their only income, it doesn't leave quite enough money as you think.

you are not taking a full time super designer you could pay a talented starter per picture and its 2 years of that money and if the devs are jobless and this is their way of making money im sorry for them tbh

 

[DD_King]

and the poor guys who are still paying them to be lazy, a person in need works his as* off

 

[j4yj4m]

That's where we disagree I guess, over 340 people are still contributing to Dark Silver on Patreon, he's released 3 games and abandoned every single one, are you suggesting people are still attempting to support him? I don't think so.

No, but I don't pity them at all. Sure, patreon could add some long term cut-off for inactive devs, but that's a different discussion.

I understand if people want to support it, and that's fair enough, I just don't believe that 1850 people who are paying month to month are happy with the progress, or the excuses as to why it's been so slow.

If they aren't, then they should stop giving money. It's not that hard.

 

[DD_King]

Who cares about F95 abandoned tag if you make 7k/month on patreon?
As long as patrons okay with this amount of time for 1 update, nothing else matters
And the grumbling of dissatisfied pirates in this thread is probably not a concern for developers

big W but im still on the things that i said