Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[j4yj4m]

That's where we disagree I guess, over 340 people are still contributing to Dark Silver on Patreon, he's released 3 games and abandoned every single one, are you suggesting people are still attempting to support him? I don't think so.

No, but I don't pity them at all. Sure, patreon could add some long term cut-off for inactive devs, but that's a different discussion.

I understand if people want to support it, and that's fair enough, I just don't believe that 1850 people who are paying month to month are happy with the progress, or the excuses as to why it's been so slow.

If they aren't, then they should stop giving money. It's not that hard.

 

[DD_King]

Who cares about F95 abandoned tag if you make 7k/month on patreon?
As long as patrons okay with this amount of time for 1 update, nothing else matters
And the grumbling of dissatisfied pirates in this thread is probably not a concern for developers

big W but im still on the things that i said

 

[Derpsel]

No, but I don't pity them at all. Sure, patreon could add some long term cut-off for inactive devs, but that's a different discussion.

If they aren't, then they should stop giving money. It's not that hard.

They should stop giving them money, that's correct. Your idea is that because they haven't, it means they're still supporting them. I disagree, and provided some arguments for why that might be, citing another abandoned game which is still receiving money.

No one is suggesting that a mother who has given birth should instantly start working again, but to use the 6 months that she'd be off work as an excuse to why the update is taking over 18 months is poor. (She could technically take a year, but I don't see how that would be needed considering their job consists of them being at home.)

 

[Derpsel]

I'm guessing you've never been around a new born? There is a reason maternity leave is a thing that exist. Baby's eat up pretty much all your freetime. It's a full time job

Sure, not for 18 months though.

Also some things to consider, the average time taken is 26 weeks, and the average job does not consist of working from home, the largest hurdle being child care.

 

[PBS666]

After all the armchair business consultants, now we have armchair doctors/gynecologists as well

 

[storm1051787]

Sure, not for 18 months though.

No, but the updates regularly take a year and pretty much finish an entire storyline. That's nothing unusual. So you have the standard time it takes to make an update plus the 6 or 7 months or whatever they took a break to care for the new born and you have around 18 months. At this point the update is almost done according to the devs themselves and all they're doing now is debugging. I'd give it maybe 2 or 3 weeks

 

[Derpsel]

No, but the updates regularly take a year and pretty much finish an entire storyline. That's nothing unusual. So you have the standard time it takes to make an update plus the 6 or 7 months or whatever they took a break to care for the new born and you have around 18 months. At this point the update is almost done according to the devs themselves and all they're doing now is debugging. I'd give it maybe 2 or 3 weeks

That's a fair prediction, but I guess we'll see in a few weeks.

 

[j4yj4m]

Your idea is that because they haven't, it means they're still supporting them. I disagree, and provided some arguments for why that might be, citing another abandoned game which is still receiving money.

I mean, by now people do get push notifications every time a transaction happens on their paypal/credit card account. As said, in this case I don't pity those who pay. One may see it as some kind of royalties for the dev's past work. It's his luck and that's ok.

But again, I'd gues it's maybe just me not seeing the point in these money discussions in general - at least not as long as devs aren't actively deceiving/threatening their patrons

... maybe that's why DarkSilver may indeed be the worst example, as people - as far as I see it - should have stopped giving him money years ago for different reasons.

 

[DarkDesires]

 

[BayJay47]

People always seethe over the financial decisions of others. I'm no different, but it's important to remember that a lot of people either don't care, actively buy into whatever the various slow devs are saying, or offer support for some other reason completely unrelated.

I'm not even saying the various devs are intentionally misleading people. I'm sure some of them are, but I think most of them aren't. In this case, I happen to think this dev has been perfectly satisfactory in their explanations. I sympathize with their situation. I genuinely wish them the best. I also do not actively support them, because I, personally, expect content for my money. In fact, I expect high quality content that specifically satisfies whatever itch I have to scratch at that particular time.

We all want the same thing: We want devs who crank out lots of excellent content at a fast pace, while simultaneously getting absolute boatloads of cash for their efforts. Unfortunately, that falls short for most games in at least one way.

 

[zmbr]

If they're working on game - by their own tracker next update is almost ready, they will soon release it and Abandoned tag is gone, and people are instead telling how good latest update is.
If they aren't - Abandoned tag is well deserved.

It's as simple as that.

 

[mathluccas]

I bet all those clamoring for the "Abandoned" tag are now wanking off on their achievement.
The game is not abandoned and F95Zone has no authority over it.

If they are indeed wanking off to the abandoned tag, then it would be the first time in 18 months that this game made them cum

 

[PBS666]

If they are indeed wanking off to the abandoned tag, then it would be the first time in 18 months that this game made them cum

I bet they are doing this in other threads as well though

 

[leros147]

Forum rules apply, since it has not got an update for more than 18 months. The game is not actually abandoned, though.

That does not mean that it is ridiculous, there is the need to have more labels so as not to confuse people.

 

[BayJay47]

That does not mean that it is ridiculous, there is the need to have more labels so as not to confuse people.

ehh, if they come here and see something hasn't been updated in 8 months or whatever and then choose to subscribe that's their own fault. Anything else is the problem of patreon/subscribestar/whatever. Even if we try really hard to idiotproof society the idiots will still find a way lol

 

[Pidgeons]

I'm probably just going to consider the game finished after the orc update is done because that's all I cared about after Gomira was first introduced. XD

 

[Sir_EatsALot]

I bet all those clamoring for the "Abandoned" tag are now wanking off on their achievement.
The game is not abandoned and F95Zone has no authority over it.

This is merely the policy of this website. There are 'other games' that shall not be named here that got the abandoned tag even when the dev was active on the site and was posting a single render every month showing his 'progress'. What's the point of a rule if it's selectively applied based on popularity? Its not us wanking off to the abandoned tag, it's you that's defending the dev with a hard on for some reason lol, no offence although some intended.

 

[Titouille]

I am looking at the code line and I wonder what they mean with 142/157.
Are they talking about line of code?
Different prompts or so?

As with all the progress, it represent "tasks". Like, for the artwork, it doesn't mean the number of images rendered, but the number of tasks, as a scene more generic will require fewer tasks than a sex scene, despite having the same amount of images.
For the code, they explain it like this:

We count a task for each of the events of the story that requires coding to make sure it works well in the structure and doesn't interfere with other quests, adding various elements such as sprites or expressions, new backgrounds with their corresponding buttons and animated images, adding cutscenes and those that have renpy-animated parts, new features (such as the shard in the bag), hints, notifications, bag items, event-related convos, alternative talks, optimizing images, sex scenes, etc.

 

["Download"]

I bet all those clamoring for the "Abandoned" tag are now wanking off on their achievement.
The game is not abandoned and F95Zone has no authority over it.

Thats was some hardcore deepthroating level of simping. Noone told that F95 have actual authority on the game, tag was added here according to site rules and to show users a couple of the most successful scummers in the history of adult games. You can now go back to your queen of simps (who look at you nothing more than gullible wallet) and tell her how fiercely you defended her honour)

 

[difugirt]

Finally, admins have put "Abandoned" tag on. Justice has finally been served.