Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[theMickey_]

...please change your banner...

 

[Dragon59]

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I never realized the choice of game I want to promote in my banner could help me find more people to ignore.

 

[dark0s]

Mhm, I have this neutral stance, right - on one hand, we have some quality material that can't qualify as a game because there just isn't enough of it there. One the other - who gives a fuck since it's free. Then there is nuance that literally nobody but the most degenerate people out there care about for (among which I would count myself in) - games that are unfinished that garner enough support to not give a fuck about deliverables. Now, I'm sure that one day this game will inevitably be finished. It won't be this month, it won't be this year and it sure as fuck won't be next year. It will probably be some time so far into the future that I won't be able to accurately predict the date. However, the end product will likely be high-quality product. So. What I'm saying with this, right. In my opinion, if you're paying for this product on patreon until that fateful release date - you're actually braindead. And, by the same token, if you're complaining about this product not being finished on f95 or anywhere else if you haven't paid a penny for it - you're also braindead. I'm the enlightened centrist on the issue - I only complain about games I've paid money for and haven't been delivered an experience I was promised. I gave these people my 20 bucks or so that I think the finished product should cost, eventually. I don't feel mad or cheated, I feel like that's the product is worth. Yeah. There is though, this issue that there are omegasimps that keep paying hundreds of $ over the years and still are happy to get nothing but crumbs under the guise of excuses. "Oh, it's understandable, they had a baby". "Oh, it's understandable, they were sick." While excuses like that are understandable on a human level, they are weak and low-key strange to use when it comes to not delivering anything for a FULL YEAR. Take it as you may. Is it a good demo of a game? Sure. Is it bordering on a scam like most long-running high-patreon adult games? Probably. I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and do my shit until 5 years later I'll be able to download the full version of the game, hopefully. Simps gonna simp, haters gonna hate and devs that can get away with making bank without committing to any kind of realistic dates are gonna keep going to milk the simps and haters. Peace.

 

[Shuls01]

Came here just to check how things were going since its been a while and I find all these clowns complaining about the game not being finished in an unreasonable amount of time, had some good laughs so thanks for that

Anyways I hope the devs are doing well

 

[Syrabert]

@ dark0s
wow, lots of text but an interesting reading. On few things i could agree and on others i disagree.
For me my support is not to buy the game rather to support an artist for his work (dream would be too misleading).
Lets take the amount: i am on the 5 $ range, supported the artist for around 2 years, that's around 130 $. Not much money in my case, my wife spends triple the amount monthly for nonsense. Also i support other projects like our local sport club, other artists, people in need and so on. Do i care or ask for something in return? not really. could i have used this money elsewhere? -probably. Can i live without this game? For sure, and if the artist some day decide to drop the game without reason or go the "dr.bones-way" i would drop the support that's for sure.
Another thing would be the "high income" of the artist: few posting before someone posted a maybe valid calculation, if i take this calculation their income would be something like 2500$ for each artist (2persons). I work in a bigger studio and even the artists in our Spanish satellite facility would be laughing about this amount. (e.g. coder ~4k, graphic ~3.5k /month), so what gives.
So as a result: yes the wait time is annoying especial if you are a fan, on the other hand the "nuts" are transparent about their work so why worry, a delay is not life threatening.

 

[mayylok]

HELP Where can i find save files?

 

[shazamyne]

HELP Where can i find save files?

Read the FAQ section in the OP, the save location is listed there.

 

[dark0s]

@ dark0s
wow, lots of text but an interesting reading. On few things i could agree and on others i disagree.
For me my support is not to buy the game rather to support an artist for his work (dream would be too misleading).
Lets take the amount: i am on the 5 $ range, supported the artist for around 2 years, that's around 130 $. Not much money in my case, my wife spends triple the amount monthly for nonsense. Also i support other projects like our local sport club, other artists, people in need and so on. Do i care or ask for something in return? not really. could i have used this money elsewhere? -probably. Can i live without this game? For sure, and if the artist some day decide to drop the game without reason or go the "dr.bones-way" i would drop the support that's for sure.
Another thing would be the "high income" of the artist: few posting before someone posted a maybe valid calculation, if i take this calculation their income would be something like 2500$ for each artist (2persons). I work in a bigger studio and even the artists in our Spanish satellite facility would be laughing about this amount. (e.g. coder ~4k, graphic ~3.5k /month), so what gives.
So as a result: yes the wait time is annoying especial if you are a fan, on the other hand the "nuts" are transparent about their work so why worry, a delay is not life threatening.

Fair enough, I may have been too crude/crass with the way I described my stance but basically I think that spending money on product is good, but perpetually supporting something without getting much in return is not something I can get behind. So I spend whatever I feel like the end product should cost (anywhere from 10 to 60$) and if the product is never finished then, oh well, I got played. But if it does get finished - at least I already paid for it. As for the income... Well, your studio example is ofc neat, but those people actually have standards of work. They get shit done, or they get fired - you feel me? They are hired by people and have supervisors, have critical dates to meet and certain amounts of work to get done before those dates. Patreon subscribers are not supervisors, they don't hold that power. There is no centralized system that guarantees that any amount of work is done at all, or maybe some is done each day but instead of full 8 hours they're working for maybe 2 or 4, depending on how they feel like during any day. I understand what you're saying though, in general it just feels like we have different perspectives on the issue.

 

[YaBoy]

Beyond Gomira, is there an existing roadmap on who the following updates will be focused? Or do they typically decide/announce this following the update.

 

[moskyx]

Beyond Gomira, is there an existing roadmap on who the following updates will be focused? Or do they typically decide/announce this following the update.

There's a Patreon poll after each update. So it's already known that Holly will be the focus of 0.8 after Gomira. And, when Gomira's update drops, a new poll will decide the focus of 0.9

 

[CGNefarious]

I always assumed the quality, extreme attention to detail, and clear care the devs put into the game would be enough for most people to understand why it takes longer to make than your standard Daz or HS based games that can put out reasonable length updates every three to six months. Guess I was mistaken.

Either way, as someone pretty active in their discord it's clear they're still working diligently on the game. There have been times where progress has been slower, and they've communicated such to patrons, but I have no doubt that they want this update to come out as much, if not more, than the rest of us. I am looking forward to it.

 

[Knight]

I always assumed the quality, extreme attention to detail, and clear care the devs put into the game would be enough for most people to understand why it takes longer to make than your standard Daz or HS based games that can put out reasonable length updates every three to six months. Guess I was mistaken.

Either way, as someone pretty active in their discord it's clear they're still working diligently on the game. There have been times where progress has been slower, and they've communicated such to patrons, but I have no doubt that they want this update to come out as much, if not more, than the rest of us. I am looking forward to it.

there is no need to be condescending, people understand that quality hand drawn art takes longer but when you go over a year without a release people are either gonna tune out or get upset.
I rarely comment or even open this thread anymore because there is nothing to discuss in terms the actual game/story/art and so on; which is kinda the point, when there is nothing to discuss the people who don't leave are gonna discuss how there is nothing to discuss.

 

[Oriandu]

I always assumed the quality, extreme attention to detail, and clear care the devs put into the game would be enough for most people to understand why it takes longer to make than your standard Daz or HS based games that can put out reasonable length updates every three to six months. Guess I was mistaken.

Either way, as someone pretty active in their discord it's clear they're still working diligently on the game. There have been times where progress has been slower, and they've communicated such to patrons, but I have no doubt that they want this update to come out as much, if not more, than the rest of us. I am looking forward to it.

And when it comes out after over a year of development and is the same ten to fifteen minutes of content as every other update that took nowhere near as long and had the same care and attention to detail, what will you say then?

 

[PhineasFlynn]

And when it comes out after over a year of development and is the same ten to fifteen minutes of content as every other update that took nowhere near as long and had the same care and attention to detail, what will you say then?

Have you ever played this game? For example, Mytril's update took me several days and that's a VN only. Even when skipping, it's definitely contenet for more than 15-20 minutes.

 

[Dragon59]

there is no need to be condescending, people understand that quality hand drawn art takes longer but when you go over a year without a release people are either gonna tune out or get upset.

Some people. Remember that the patrons voted in favor of longer development cycles, and I'd say their opinions hold greater weight than people playing for free.

 

[snapfizz]

Came here just to check how things were going since its been a while and I find all these clowns complaining about the game not being finished in an unreasonable amount of time, had some good laughs so thanks for that

Anyways I hope the devs are doing well

damn bro you like getting hit in the ass for sure

 

[Devronman]

The game now has 420 reviews, no more reviews please.

 

[Dragon59]

The game now has 420 reviews, no more reviews please.

He-he-he-he....

 

[Abadd0n]

a year without updates sucks ass, but I like that we get a weekly report about how far they have come. Unlike some other gamrs (something unlimted) I have hopes for this game.

 

[TheDevian]

not here to complain about how long the gomira update has taken, i fully understand that the devs put out high quality shit so it's worth the wait, but has there been any talk or estimate done on when the new update will be released? (sorry if this has been asked a lot before).

Based on the progress so far, I estimate about 3 months. Give or take...