Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[hrimthyrs]

That's not the case, I read the update, it should take 3 months at most, now the people who will write to me may have been ill or another problem may have occurred.
I came from the military, still no update

You seem to have mistaken this for the Radiant thread. There has never been a promise for an update to "take 3 months at most", nor has there been a stream of claims of illness or other excuses from the devs. They started out with 3—5 month updates, asked their patrons to vote on it, and the majority voted for updates that covered a given LI's full story, no matter how long that meant between updates. I have been posting analyses after every update, how much new content was added in terms of total file size, number of new images, and in playtime, what it works out to in terms of new content added per day, etc. precisely to compare with previous updates to track if MagicNuts are slowing down and "milking" like the overcaffeinated howler monkeys insist when they storm into this thread to repeat the same debunked twaddle over and over.

If you're going to insist an update is taking longer than it "should", the least you can do is provide an argument for why you think that. Demonstrate that you've put some thought into how much new content is being promised versus how much was in previous updates and how long they took. Demonstrate that other dev teams of similar size with similar artistic quality and dedication to detail roll out similar-size updates quicker. If you just barge into a thread and insist sans evidence that an update is taking longer than some number you've seemingly arrived at by shoving your arm to the elbow up your own ass and yanking out what you found there, nobody is going to take you seriously. They're just going to back slowly away from the raving lunatic while looking for the nearest exit.

...or they'll just add you to their ignore list so they don't have to read your entitled tantrums.

 

[DredgenVayn]

Hey. I'm the developer. Could I please keep the ownership of this thread.

Is the game dead? I haven't seen any updates.

 

[Kirel]

Is the game dead? I haven't seen any updates.

They post daily progress updates on their Discord, so no, it's not dead.

 

[hrimthyrs]

Is the game dead? I haven't seen any updates.

KingBea posts every single weekly Patreon progress update. You can see the most recent by literally scrolling up a bit.

 

[DredgenVayn]

KingBea posts every single weekly Patrone progress update. You can see the most recent by literally scrolling up a bit.

Sorry. Been a while for me. I reached the end at 0.6, was waiting for an update to the game/story.

 

[Valentine Hashmi]

unable to accept discord link. anyone else face the same problem ?

 

[KingBea]

Weekly report 165
Hi, everybody.
Happy Friday! Here's a summary of our work since last week:

Chestnut:
She had planned to begin a multi-stage cutscene, and although she has indeed started the art of that event, she has focused most of her time on two smaller cutscenes, both of which were different from the sketches she had made in our initial storyboard (because I ended up changing the events) and that I had created placeholder displayables for them. I still haven't added the final images to the game, but the art looks good, and I'm positive they will work.

Pistachio:
I posed several scenes from Gomira's second quest and wrote a few optional convos. For the past few days, I have focused on rewriting the dialogues of one of the second quest's events. When I wrote this event, the characters' personalities were slightly different from how they ended up being, so for them to make sense and be consistent, they need to be rewritten, which is what I've been doing and will likely do most of the coming week.

Next week's plan:
Chestnut wants to continue working on cutscenes. I have also given her Photoshop files with placeholder sprite hands (mostly holding objects or having variations on holding objects), and if she has the time, she will also work on them.
As I mentioned above, I plan to get the text of Gomira's second quest right, at least for the next event I have to pose, particularly regarding the characters' personalities and the whole mood of the dialogues, before continuing with the posing.

That's all.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Cheers

 

[Filipis]

This game is excellent in attention to detail, art, and story (for a AVN), but this is one of those cases where the final product just isn't worth the time or the money invested into it.

Taking too long to deliver "perfection" is just as bad, if not worse, than delivering mediocrity at a faster pace.

 

[TheDevian]

This game is excellent in attention to detail, art, and story (for a AVN), but this is one of those cases where the final product just isn't worth the time or the money invested into it.

Taking too long to deliver "perfection" is just as bad, if not worse, than delivering mediocrity at a faster pace.

I have to disagree, this site is flooded with derivative mediocrity that isn't worth the time it takes to download, a good game is worth the time it takes to make it so.

 

[張先生]

If you wait another 3 months without updating, you can abandon the pit

 

[wd1111]

191/283, to be precise.
Less than 1\3 remaining.
Hand drawn art takes time. Deal with it.

it isn't 1950 any more where every frame is hand drawn (and even then they used layering and reused drawings to speed things up), PS and layers makes the sort of art seen here quite a quick process once the layers are done, it's not like they are making some intricate animations with 3d camera moves with changing perspective and/or character pose changes

if you think differently, then perhaps it is time to check out what some artists are doing on YT even in Blender with grease pencil and take some pointers

and I'm not completely oblivious to the offspring situation, but that excuse also can only be stretched so far

 

[DredgenVayn]

To be honest, I was expecting pregnancy content. Shame there is none.

 

[Deleted member 5988643]

This game is excellent in attention to detail, art, and story (for a AVN), but this is one of those cases where the final product just isn't worth the time or the money invested into it.

Taking too long to deliver "perfection" is just as bad, if not worse, than delivering mediocrity at a faster pace.

You don't have to invest money in it, I don't. And still we get to play it.

You can invest money, if you have enough, and you think they are doing a good job. If I could I would, and you can pay 2$ a month, is 24$ for 1 update. Or you can pay them a little when there is an update, or nothing at all...

They just do it for fun, not like some others 'Bones' anyone?

 

[whichone]

it isn't 1950 any more where every frame is hand drawn (and even then they used layering and reused drawings to speed things up), PS and layers makes the sort of art seen here quite a quick process once the layers are done, it's not like they are making some intricate animations with 3d camera moves with changing perspective and/or character pose changes

Aah, I see.
You're obviously an expert because you watched some YT videos.

You know Chestnut has videos of her doing the work, too, right?

and I'm not completely oblivious to the offspring situation, but that excuse also can only be stretched so far

Ha ha ha, of course, yeah.
The amount of responsibility, time & care required for a child obviously drops off dramatically, after just 7 months of giving birth.
Once the child is crawling about, you can just leave it to its business.
You hear parents discussing how easy it becomes after 7 months, all the time!

 

[hrimthyrs]

"once the layers are done" is doing some Atlas holding up the sky levels of heavy lifting.

 

[wd1111]

Aah, I see.
You're obviously an expert because you watched some YT videos.
GL with that.


Ha ha ha, of course, yeah.
The amount of responsibility, time & care required for a child obviously drops off dramatically, after a few months of giving birth. You hear parents discussing how easy it is, all the time!

you lot pretend like this is some artisan level drawing here where every frame is hand drawn masterpiece, take the red pill, it will be good for you
and I'm not saying the artwork is bad, it is good, but it doesn't take hours and hours to "draw" each picture

regarding kids, if it was as bad as you make it out to be, nothing would get done in this world, imagine the horror it is when you have 2 of them, or worse - 3, 24h in a day wouldn't be enough according to you... yet somehow shit gets done all over the world

 

[whichone]

you lot pretend like this is some artisan level drawing here where every frame is hand drawn masterpiece, take the red pill, it will be good for you
and I'm not saying the artwork is bad, it is good, but it doesn't take hours and hours to "draw" each picture

There's a video on Patreon that shows her working, check it out.

regarding kids, if it was as bad as you make it out to be, nothing would get done in this world, imagine the horror it is when you have 2 of them, or worse - 3, 24h in a day wouldn't be enough according to you... yet somehow shit gets done all over the world

A child of 7 months old requires pretty constant attention, particularly while it's awake and starting to crawl about.
Having 2, 3, 4 other children doesn't alter that.

It's not an "excuse", it's a parental responsibility.
The baby is only 7 months old. It cannot take care of itself.
Do you honestly not understand how\why this would continue (for more than 7 months) to impact the length of time it takes to produce her art?
Having to divert her attention to the child, inevitably disrupts the focus on the work & gives licence to a delay.
I would expect, for an artist, any interruption would.
Same for Pistachio, when he's coding. Interruption = delay.

 

[hrimthyrs]

but it doesn't take hours and hours to "draw" each picture

They sporadically post WIP videos on Patreon. The most recent one is from June 23rd and is almost 17 minutes long at 5x speed. Almost an hour and a half to draw a ship for a background. Another from April is of an image of Gomira, 13 minutes at 5x speed, over an hour real-time. You are providing yet another example that the crowd that insists this dev team is taking us for a ride are getting their supporting evidence by shoving their arms to the elbow up their own asses and yanking out a turd and a chunk of intestine and then wondering why we don't take the raving lunatic waving around feces and viscera seriously.

 

[whichone]

They sporadically post WIP videos on Patreon. The most recent one is from June 23rd and is almost 17 minutes long at 5x speed. Almost an hour and a half to draw a ship for a background. Another from April is of an image of Gomira, 13 minutes at 5x speed, over an hour real-time. You are providing yet another example that the crowd that insists this dev team is taking us for a ride are getting their supporting evidence by shoving their arms to the elbow up their own asses and yanking out a turd and a chunk intestine and then wondering why we don't take the raving lunatic waving around feces and viscera seriously.

Yeah, there's the

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one that was 20 mins long (at x6 - 2hrs), creating a background character, for one scene.
"doesn't take hours" No, obviously not.

 

[TheDevian]

Yeah, there's the

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one that was 20 mins long (at x6 - 2hrs), creating a background character, for one scene.
"doesn't take hours" No, obviously not.

And there was a longer version than that.

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