Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[Cockva]

The development cycle is fine, as we are getting a fully finished part of the game. But about orc... Although after this update, the problem will disappear.

 

[T3X]

I read from his last report (all of them sound like this for me) - we did something, maybe, but lets pretend we did something so we have excuse to change some numbers around in the chart so at the end the grand total ends up 2-3% more than the previous one and shows "progress"

I think I've said this before, with their workflow, spending a month or two on planning alone would negate the need for constant "rewrites" and "redrawing" which is a giant time sink, and the chart says planning is done and writing is virtually complete, yet week after week there is constant rework...

so, yes, I think that chart is but a joke, and is there so some people can pretend to understand something and end up seeing "progress"

A year and a half into development and they're running polls on new mockups and sketches for Gomiras outfits. It's absurd. Reports like that show they are very, very far from an update.

 

[ScionDayne]

No the problem is not everyone is into tomboy/monster girls, it is a more niche preference. Before, when updates were often, I wouldn't have cared too much about it, but when it's the longest time ever since an update and it's for something you don't even care about? Now that's frustrating, and on top of that you have to think how long is it even going to be after that to get the next update you may care about. At this point I feel each chapter of FF7 remake gets done faster than this game's updates.

No the problem is that some people are. Anyone sitting here acting as if the thing they want the most attention on is what should be priority is just selfish and being asinine. It doesn't matter what you think is a niche preference, the point is it's a preference and a character in the story and thus they are going to get some love just like the other characters. Wait your turn.

The real argument should be the time it takes to do these updates. It's ridiculous.

 

[i1i]

Honestly it feels somewhat ridiculous to discuss. If you think the update schedule is too slow stop donating money to them until they fix it. The End.

 

[Night_Ninja_98]

Oh please, most of them don't even donate, just complains there

 

[ogapetape]

Oh please, most of them don't even donate, just complains there

I was a donor through the fist couple of updates. Holly-Lana. I stopped pledging because I felt the cadence was too slow, but others don't feel the same way and that's fine.

It's a good game and I want to see it thrive, but the value just wasn't there for me after a while.

 

[faheliw100]

soon

 

[Ratnedalu]

Honestly thought this game was abandoned... I mean, it is, just... not officially by site rules. Halfway through 2022 was the last update? I hate the people who come into threads and go 'lol, dead game', but... I feel like regardless of the charts and supporters and what-not, NO update should take this long. This makes Team Borscht look like the hardcore monthly update crowd.

 

[Airforce450]

This Vs. Summertime Saga which will makes their update first lol

 

[massifteetees]

Any new update? I love this game, but lets be real a lot of us are running out of patience.

I used to back them but with no release for almost a year I was becoming a lil sus. The dev makes 7K Euro per month, the least they should release one update instead of going without any for a year.

Better not abandon it because its so promising.

 

[TheDevian]

92.94% and the total keeps growing.

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

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92.94% and the total keeps growing.

But with this speed, we might be Q3/4 of 2024. It better be a huge update...

And the next update I want to see unicorns and mermaids...

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Can't wait to see that this is just a tech demo and the real new build is still at 0 %.

 

[whichone]

But with this speed, we might be Q3/4 of 2024. It better be a huge update...

"With this speed" it went from being 91.5%, on 28th Dec, to being 92.2%, on 31st Dec.
That means it took 3 days for a 0.7% total increase.
There is 7.8% remaining. If it continues "with this speed", it would take circa 34 days.
Give it a couple of months, it should be close.

They stated a few times that this is the largest update they've done, yet. Given that the previous ones have all been a decent size, I see no cause for alarm.

 

[HarryFlash]

I believe, if this update has taught us anything it's that magicnuts needs to plan how they release their future updates better.
After they've completed their initial planning and made an estimate on the amount of work required they should then make a call on if they should break their story into, 1 or more parts. While it's great getting a completed story arc. Waiting over a year is just bad project management in my opinion.
While I'm sure the Gomira update will be just as good as their earlier work. I think it would have been better managed if they had split the update in half and released a part 1 sometime around April to June. That way we'd be only waiting on the second half now rather then the full update.

 

[whichone]

I believe, if this update has taught us anything it's that magicnuts needs to plan how they release their future updates better.
After they've completed their initial planning and made an estimate on the amount of work required they should then make a call on if they should break their story into, 1 or more parts. While it's great getting a completed story arc. Waiting over a year is just bad project management in my opinion.
While I'm sure the Gomira update will be just as good as their earlier work. I think it would have been better managed if they had split the update in half and released a part 1 sometime around April to June. That way we'd be only waiting on the second half now rather then the full update.

Patrons chose to have updates done this way. Their opinion is obviously far more relevant and important, to the business, than that of pirates.
What you consider "bad project management", facts paint as being major events in their lives taking away large portions of the predicted available time - a new child & 2 operations will do that.

 

[HarryFlash]

Patrons chose to have updates done this way. Their opinion is obviously far more relevant and important, to the business, than that of pirates.
What you consider "bad project management", facts paint as being major events in their lives taking away large portions of the predicted available time - a new child & 2 operations will do that.

Hi whichone, I taught you put me on your ignore list. Anyway I still think breaking an extra large update into 2 large updates is a better system then just continuing on, over a year with just a single update.

 

[moskyx]

Development is not linear and they've been working on the 2 quests of this update at the same time. They also explained that while they were testing the completed work they found a couple of sections from the first quest that didn't fit the events and tone of the second. So had they broken this update into 2 minor updates, they would've needed to rework an already published work, which is never a nice solution - or just published a lower quality product they weren't happy with.

 

[elbo911]

Hi whichone, I taught you put me on your ignore list. Anyway I still think breaking an extra large update into 2 large updates is a better system then just continuing on, over a year with just a single update.

I still think the world would be a better place if there was only sausage with cheese in it. But hey, what can you do? And also, who besides me even cares?

 

[bingolebongo]

Patrons chose to have updates done this way.

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.