Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.05] [MagicNuts]

[moskyx]

Patreon needs to tie payments to the frequency of updates, for example, the developer undertakes to release an update once a month, as long as the deadline is met, payments go out, as soon as the deadline is exceeded, payments are frozen. Otherwise they relax too much, summertime saga is the same scam.

Patreon benefits have always been met. The game is free for all and its release is not tied to how much money you give the devs or how much money they earn. They publish their daily progress for free and offer a weekly, more detailed report to their patrons. Every single person who voluntarily decides to subscribe knows what to expect and can make their own choices fully informed, they even know how much money are getting those devs (unlike those interested in supporting the guy who has just posted above me, funnily enough). Calling something a scam doesn't make it one.

 

[reees754]

regarding that abandoned tag, something more automated would be better, like a tag that shows how much time, weeks or months have passed since last update, so it is immediately obvious, and also something that tracks how frequent the updates are in general to get an idea what is the trend with this or that dev

Yep. Very good idea, that would be perfect!

 

[G3RWANT]

hahaha I knew he was going to abandon it, cash collected and poured over the game hahahahah

 

[Xupuzulla]

The fact this actually got the Abandoned tag is crazy,the next update is so close too
Some people got their wish i guess

 

[Urpo]

I was wondering what is taking so long. But seeing how little they make from Patreon versus the quality, I would say they have made OK progress.

 

[B_st_cloud]

I was wondering what is taking so long. But seeing how little they make from Patreon versus the quality, I would say they have made OK progress.

It's been two years and two peoples full time job, that's ok progress to you?

 

[PBS666]

It's been two years and two peoples full time job, that's ok progress to you?

It will be two years at the end of July. You know how a calendar works ?
Please stop spreading FUD.

 

[B_st_cloud]

It will be two years at the end of July. You know how a calendar works ?
Please stop spreading FUD.

Should have put almost two years, regardless "its not two years its only 18 months" isn't the win you think it is.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

Should have put almost two years, regardless "its not two years its only 18 months" isn't the win you think it is.

But, you know, year have 12 months. 18 month isnt year nor two years... Its somewhere in middle. Maybe somewhere is word for it.

 

[B_st_cloud]

I meant it will most likely be two years for when the new update is on target for release, based on the discord it was at 90% in early December, if its 95 now. 3 months is a fair assessment to take the new update to June/ July . That's slow progress.

 

[PBS666]

Should have put almost two years, regardless "its not two years its only 18 months" isn't the win you think it is.

What "win" ? I'm too old for this kind of games.
Spare me another "witty" reply. Won't be seeing it.

 

[Jdsiis]

Wait, the last update for this game was 2 years ago? No wonder it got the abandoned tag.

Is that right? 0.6 -> 0.7 takes 2 years? If that's true, who the hell is still subbing on Patreon?

 

[PBS666]

Wait, the last update for this game was 2 years ago? No wonder it got the abandoned tag.

Is that right? 0.6 -> 0.7 takes 2 years? If that's true, who the hell is still subbing on Patreon?

No, it's not two years since the last update. Does nobody know how a calendar works anymore ?
2 years = 24 months, not 18.
Get your facts straight before you start spreading FUD.

 

[Jdsiis]

No, it's not two years since the last update. Does nobody know how a calendar works anymore ?
2 years = 24 months, not 18.
Get your facts straight before you start spreading FUD.

I was quoting from the latest updates page. Still 18 months is a crazy timeline for an update lol

 

[Derpsel]

I mean the current update is almost finished. The only reason why this one took so long is because it's only two devs and they had a baby, so there was at least 7 months they werent able to work on the game

7 months they were unable to sit down, even an hour a day to work on the game when they're getting paid 7k per month?

Insane copium.

 

[j4yj4m]

7 months they were unable to sit down, even an hour a day to work on the game when they're getting paid 7k per month?

Insane copium.

It's really up to the patrons in this case. If the sole artist (who I think we agree should not be temporarily replaced by someone else for the sake of consistency) gives birth, it's normal in most civilised contries to get parental leave. Where I'm living it's indeed quite normal to get at least a year. So it's understable that she took a real break for some time.

It takes 5 seconds to stop your contribution on patreon, so one would hope, that those people who think they didn't get what they gave their money for, have stopped giving long ago.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's pretty insane how many people demand that a monther of a newborn starts working again right away, just so they have their porn game. Then again, I'm not following this topic closely, so one may just ignore this comment...

 

[Conrad-N7]

ngl... 7k per month is fuck loads of money. One would expect enough work done per week that you dont have to wait 2 years for an actual content update. Gonna hope its not actual scam rolling or something and we get low quality update... but seriously, 2 years is bloody lot even with issues in life. Like... a mothers love had some serious issues and the dev made their update faster and issues sounded more serious... and they get paid only 1k ish a month lol

 

[Derpsel]

It's really up to the patrons in this case. If the sole artist (who I think we agree should not be temporarily replaced by someone else for the sake of consistency) gives birth, it's normal in most civilised contries to get parental leave. Where I'm living it's indeed quite normal to get at least a year. So it's understable that she took a real break for some time.

It takes 5 seconds to stop your contribution on patreon, so one would hope, that those people who think they didn't get what they gave their money for, have stopped giving long ago.

In the UK, you're right you can get that time off, but the person can also claim back all the money they make during it from HMRC, which they'd get around 90% of their already top wage.

I'd think the people funding you to work on a game, which literally cannot progress because the artist isn't working, should not be taking funds for no reason. The developer can also pause their patreon, but they didn't.

 

[j4yj4m]

I'd think the people funding you to work on a game, which literally cannot progress because the artist isn't working, should not be taking funds for no reason. The developer can also pause their patreon, but they didn't.

Why though? If people want to keep giving money, because they want to support the project, that's totally fine to me.

Those people who fund the game get very regular reports on patreon, so they are certainly able to decide - that's of course, as long as they care.

 

[Derpsel]

Why though? If people want to keep giving money, because they want to support the project, that's totally fine to me.

Those people who fund the game get very regular reports on patreon, so they are certainly able to decide - that's of course, as long as they care.

You know why so many companies are chasing subscription based models for everything right now? Because it's so easy for people to forget about the subscription and let it carry on. We don't actually know how many of their current backers are happy with giving them money. Evidence of this? Look at some of the years previous abandoned games, there's still people contributing on Patreon.

All of those weekly updates have less than 50-60 engaged contributers, out of 1850, that's not a good look.