elb0ne

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It uses basic 2d cartoony art.
To be perfectly honest, I haven't been following this game at all closely enough to pass judgment one way or another with regard to the devs' work ethic, but lol at Vincel van Gogh over here somehow failing to grasp why 9 out of 10 games on this site use dead-eyed Daz models rather than even the most rudimentary hand-drawn assets, alongside various opinions on the time commitment required of child-rearing made by dudes who aren't allowed within 500 feet of them. Like, holy moly, earn yourself the slightest bit of authority on the subject before making sweeping statements like that.
 

Rolo

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I felt milked and i have every right to feel so. Don't have the audacity to tell me how i feel, plus i assume i'm not the only one in that case. ...
You felt milked. Thats your right ofc.
And you left, thats your right ofc.
And now you are no Patron any more. OK, fine.

What disturbes me is that a lot of Non-Patrons rant about Patrons who do NOT leave coz they do NOT feel milked.
And are attacked coz of that. Others try to tell them they should feel milked (otherwise they are idiots).

(Btw. I never would dare to tell ppl how they should feel!)
 
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Derpsel

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You felt milked. Thats your right ofc.
And you left, thats your right ofc.
And now you are no Patron any more. OK, fine.

What disturbes me is that a lot of Non-Patrons rant about Patrons who do NOT leave coz they do NOT feel milked.
And are attacked coz of that. Others try to tell them they should feel milked (otherwise they are idiots).

(Btw. I never would dare to tell ppl how they should feel!)
You spend a good portion of your day on this thread defending these developers, is it perhaps a bit of copium since you've already contributed so much to their patreon? :unsure:
 

hoshimota

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You felt milked. Thats your right ofc.
And you left, thats your right ofc.
And now you are no Patron any more. OK, fine.

What disturbes me is that a lot of Non-Patrons rant about Patrons who do NOT leave coz they do NOT feel milked.
And are attacked coz of that. Others try to tell them they should feel milked (otherwise they are idiots).

(Btw. I never would dare to tell ppl how they should feel!)
Dude you are defending devs who have put out jack shit aside from a progress graph for going on two years. I... don't know what you even expect.

I think plenty of people are opposed to the idea of continuing to financially support devs that don't do work. It's called enabling.
 

jvonschantz

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You spend a good portion of your day on this thread defending these developers, is it perhaps a bit of copium since you've already contributed so much to their patreon? :unsure:
Dont bother with that person, it makes things up, doesn't even have a basic understanding of the concept of "milking". Rolo thinks it's based on the patreon's feelings, not the content creator actions.
 

Rolo

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You spend a good portion of your day ...
True, I will stop that soon. It ceases to be funny...
on this thread defending these developers,...
Never did, afair.
is it perhaps a bit of copium
No, no need for that.
...since you've already contributed so much to their patreon? :unsure:
Lets think: 3 to 5€. I guess No.

..Rolo thinks it's based on the patreon's feelings, not the content creator actions.
Thanks, yes exactly. :)
If a Patron feels milked or not as absolutely based on the Patrons feelings ...
 
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Rolo

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Dude you are defending devs ...
I dont.
But I defend Patrons who do not feel milked; and others demand from them that they should feel milked.
I... don't know what you even expect.
Hehe, I even expect nothing, as long as I dont have to pay for this nothing.
I think plenty of people are opposed to the idea of continuing to financially support devs that don't do work. It's called enabling.
Dude, I think so too. These plenty of ppl just stop to continue to financially support devs - forwhatever reasons.

And I agree. Devs lost and will loose a lot of supporters when they dont deliver. Thats cause and effect.
And they truly deserve that, when they do not deliver.
This fact might be hidden coz they have a nice product and new Patrons start to support
coz they might not know the history (and might leave sooner or later after disappointment).

My opinion is that the devs could create much much more income with delivering updates in shorter intervals.
Less work, less money.
 
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loskyeh

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Lets be honest,the art of this game carries HARD.
The gameplay,the "sandbox" elements are meh at best,but the art is really good.
Still think 2 years for a orc update is insane and deranged through:whistle:
The art is the main selling point of this game, i'm pretty sure, they couldn't have met such a "durable success" without it. The problem being, for us, that there is not any proper contenders in this category. I would even prefer a similar game, in terms of art quality, even with a worse writing, if the updates were more consistent and regular.

Unfortunatly for us, they have no competitors, hence they don't need to worry that much for now. :cautious:
 

fusibile87

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What disturbes me is that a lot of Non-Patrons rant about Patrons who do NOT leave coz they do NOT feel milked.
And are attacked coz of that. Others try to tell them they should feel milked (otherwise they are idiots).
Patrons dumb decisions have consequences on everyone else.
The whole modern gaming industry is shaped by the fact that whales have more money than neurons.
 

Xupuzulla

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Patrons dumb decisions have consequences on everyone else.
The whole modern gaming industry is shaped by the fact that whales have more money than neurons.
Reminder that patreons voted for longer updates,starting this whole mess.
Reminder that patreons voted for the orc girl.
Defending the patreons of this game is actually degenerate behaviour.
 

RT5X

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I'm gonna forever be skeptical of new games on this site/patreon/ss until a dev for these actually sets up a company to make these types of games (Not a duo, not a group of people) a company with more than 10 people.
I'm so stupid, most people would do the same if they made a game and made a good amount of money for barley putting out updates and filling in their weekly report quota as an illusion of progress.
Hell I'm convinced most devs make these games with only money in mind and not as a passion project (What a legend feels like it was a passion project but the dev lost the passion they once held).

Honestly I'd rather just get back into the Japanese VN scene again
There's at least a better variety and more passion than the Western Porn games:confused:
 

Rolo

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Reminder that patreons voted for longer updates,starting this whole mess.
Reminder that patreons voted for the orc girl.
Defending the patreons of this game is actually degenerate behaviour.
Even if they are dumb, they - at least - made this game possible at all. I am thankful for that.
 
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Rolo

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... Defending the patreons of this game is actually degenerate behaviour.
It's not that I only defend patrons, I defend people in general,
I defend their right to free opinion, free decisions, free feelings...

Patrons are humans just like F95 members and developers.
I think we should respect them all and not attack any group because they have a different opinion.
 

Xupuzulla

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It's not that I only defend patrons, I defend people in general,
I defend their right to free opinion, free decisions, free feelings...

Patrons are humans just like F95 members and developers.
I think we should respect them all and not attack any group because they have a different opinion.
Rich coming from you,seems like you love to attack people for no reason with zero respect.

I guess one has to be a real idiot to do such a posting ;)
 

_Gaalec_

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So guys, how do you think, when will we see new update? Maybe anyone have inside... I mean real content for play, not "progress" tracker. :unsure:
 
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