What are y'alls opinions on Renpy games?

rev_10

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Lowest effort type of "game", it's just a glorified PowerPoint with inserted videos and nsfw stuff, with a few "choices" where you only click on stuff. They not interactive, fun or dynamic, i'd rather take a lousy 3D sex game than that crap. Or any properly made 2D game. They shouldn't even be considered games because it doesn't even require any sort of decent hardware to run them.
 

Mxiio

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I personally dislike games without agency which is the impression Renpy used to give me due to how often it's used in Visual Novels where holding CTRL will make the whole thing flash by in a minute without me having to do anything. However, then I came across a little gem called Agent 17 by Hexatail. Since then I've been taking a much closer look at Renpy games and have found a number that are great. I think the engine is just fine, it's just that the saturation of Visual Novels made using it is overshadowing its' potential to be more.
 

NeonSelf

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I prefer Renpy games primarily because its RenPy:
- same controls in every game, easy to save-load with just a few clicks, skip scenes or rollback
- instant text speed setting in all games. I hate it, when text slowly appears word by word.
- always playable with just one hand.
- easy to modify or take a look at art in game folders, skipping all ingame grind

Downsides, that unfortunately will never be fixed:
- File size is insane. Since everything is pre-rendered and stored as separate images.
- Python. One of the worst languages to fix bugs in. You can make an error by simply replacing one tab with spaces and it will be invisible.
 

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It sounds like OP and many peoples here are just don't like visual novel in general and not necessary renpy engine. A visual novel can be made using Unity, Unreal engine or whatever engine the developer want. Renpy is just a tool.

I used to dislike VN too and prefer real time 3D games. When I first discovered this site I only use it to download Fallen Doll and Wild Life and pretty much avoid all the VN games. But one day out of boredom I decided to give VN a try and was hooked to it characters and story. I think Big Brother and Melody is my first VN on this site.
Sure there is a lot of garage renpy VN out there but if you tooks the time to search there are many good games out there.

Another advantage of renpy vn is that it can run on a potato and doesn't required a gaming PC. I have a decent pc but with the current AAA gaming industry that constantly pump out garbage woke, live service games with ugly characters. I much rather play some of the VN on this site than Suicide Squads or Concord for ex.
 

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It sounds like OP and many peoples here are just don't like visual novel in general and not necessary renpy engine. A visual novel can be made using Unity, Unreal engine or whatever engine the developer want. Renpy is just a tool.
Also be noted that Ren'Py do not limits to VN, the oldest known proof of this is the 8 years old Sakura Dungeon (old school 3D). A more recent one being Lust Hunter (dress up and RPG Maker-like map system).
It's not because most developers do not goes further than VN, with possibly one or two small mini-games, that the engine can't do more.
 

Elo91

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Personally i dislike them heavily. Im sure theres some golden ones out there but the majority just make me go :FacePalm:

(also this OP was modified by me since apparently the previous OP may have been conflictive?)
Personally I like Ren'Py a lot more than most others tbh. Not even bc I like VN's, but bc of how ... well, "bad" the rest tend to be for me. And the many QoL things Ren'Py comes with that others really don't.
  • My favorite game type is definitely RPG. But like 99% of RPGM games are just horrible when you have ADD.
    • Hours of walking around wasting time and doing nothing interesting at all before the game even gets started.
    • Horrible controls, LCtrl skip disabled as a rule, no way to view dialogue history, and a constant time waste on overly verbose dialogue or "cool" little animations and scene fadeouts, and ofc an ungodly amount of grind, and so much more...
    • RPGM on average offers the worst possible lewd experience. Sure, there are exceptions (Acerola / OneOne1, the Agnietta team, some smaller studios here) but they are very rare and tend to get repetitive really fast.
  • I also really like sidescrollers, stuff with real gameplay. But there are very few lewd sidescrollers and most of them have the same problems.
    • The controls are almost always horrid, and rather than lewd being part of the gameplay it's just your typical defeat mechanic. So playing the game & moving forward, vs. actually enjoying the game for the stuff you're there for are mutually exclusive. Which makes no sense to me.
  • 3d games, like 3:rd person perspective Unreal etc. stuff with a full on gameplay would also be amazing normally. But they tend to be horribly optimized and come with a mix of the problems above. They also always have 2h controls which just doesn't work with a lewd game.
  • The more complex a game is, the bigger the chance for bugs, random configuration or translation problems, those dysfunctional controls etc.
So it's not that Ren'Py or VN's are particularly good. It's more that the engine removes so many of the problems other engines have. 1 set of controls works for all, and they're always 1-handed. You can save anywhere, skip instantly and anywhere, easily view dialogue history & change your choices etc. The pacing also tends to be much better. Ren'Py has no real gameplay and the flow demands frequent visuals, so it sort of naturally makes devs avoid the kind of time waste like grind, supermassive dialogue or bad gameplay choices you run into with the other games. Even the few that have some grindy repeated scenes aren't even an issue bc you can just hold that LCtrl and do it 2 seconds.

A lot of the other types of games, especially RPGM also actually play like kinetic novels (I can't stand kinetic novels, I need choices). But it can take up to hours to find out about that or other problems, to see it's not even something you like. Reviews are far from reliable so this is a problem that happens all the time for me. But with Ren'Py you can find out if it's not your thing in an instant.

HTML is pretty good too for similar reasons but with more options they tend to develop more of the same problems as the others. A lot of pointless extra clicks, tons of grind and other gameplay issues.
 
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I prefer Renpy games primarily because its RenPy:
- same controls in every game, easy to save-load with just a few clicks, skip scenes or rollback
- instant text speed setting in all games. I hate it, when text slowly appears word by word.
Those points are also true in my Unity game.


- File size is insane. Since everything is pre-rendered and stored as separate images.
While I agree that the eastern style (and majority of 2DCG games) is superior since it avoids image bloat, a 3d game wouldn't help with the size, but it would actually drastically increase it.
Unless said game involves always the same locations and the same characters for a very lengthy period of time where it's only a matter of time before the amount of renders would catch up.
 

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This. Its not the engine, its what the DEVELOPER does with it.
For several reasons (most importantly probably one-handed playing), the most common and popular type of adult / porn "game" happens to be the VN.

Unfortunately, most "developers" are not nearly sufficiently skilled programmers to incorporate basic functionality into their "game" (such as proper savegame functionality, rollback, skip text etc.) UNLESS they are using Ren'Py.

There are a few VN's which are not made in Ren'Py (but instead in Unity) and which do manage to function properly. But the vast majority simply doesn't.

If the player is not looking for a VN but for something else, then there is more to choose from but, again, for a number of reasons, the VN is very popular.
 
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AllNatural939

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They shouldn't even be considered games because it doesn't even require any sort of decent hardware to run them.
WTF is wrong with you?...
So, Doom (runs in everything) is not a game, Pong is not a game, Snake is not a game... Are you sure? :ROFLMAO: We dont have a FACE PALM emoji, that could have been perfect for this guy...
 

rev_10

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WTF is wrong with you?...
So, Doom (runs in everything) is not a game, Pong is not a game, Snake is not a game... Are you sure? :ROFLMAO: We dont have a FACE PALM emoji, that could have been perfect for this guy...
Damn, don't take it to the heart that much my guy. Also, those 3 games you mention, well, they are actual games tho, not "click and point". Chill out, partner.
 

AllNatural939

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Damn, don't take it to the heart that much my guy. Also, those 3 games you mention, well, they are actual games tho, not "click and point". Chill out, partner.
Haha, no, "my guy"... Don't come on and do the "I didn't say that" now. You said what you said and now you're putting "buts" on it... It's easy to say something stupid and then act like you didn't screw up.