What is a very popular but underrepresented fetish amongst you?

[woody554]

My man, we're talking about whether incest is underrepresented. Just because it may have overlapping genres that you don't like doesn't mean that those games don't exist. They're still incest games.

like I said, and you even quoted: "but I'll admit a lot of it comes from there being several different non-overlapping incest genres, like for me the loli, shota, f/d are all instantly off, as is ntr ones."

still the fact remains: there's very few games for people who look for the basic mom/son incest house genre. it's not like in 2018 when you got a few new ones every week, now it's more like 5 a year out of which 4 dies instantly. ask anyone who play these ones, they'll all say the same thing. (unless they love ntr, then there's more games).

it's kinda like how there's a million games with the tag 'lesbian' but almost none of them targets lesbian audience. or even hetero audience who don't want dick in their lesbians.

 

[F4C430]

How do you argue that a fetish is very popular if it doesn't already have significant representation?

 

[anne O'nymous]

he's not saying there's not a lot of them, he's saying the fact that patreon rules force people to censor their games trivially means there would be more of them than there is.

My bad, I haven't noticed that the thread was about popular but badly disguised fetishes.

 

[Jaike]

Not really wrong for incest games though.

Making a roommate/tenant game and labeling as "incest" because you can change the roles is the same thing as making a rape focused game where you are not really raping anyone but you can change the action verb "fuck" to "rape".

As a pervert mostly play incest games, sure you can find lots of projects with "incest" tag.
But most of them actually roommate/tenant story thanks to patreon policies.

I'm sure you got it backward for most of those games.

They're mother-son or brother-sister games that got relabeled to superficial 'rentalcest'. They make hell of a lot more sense with the incest patches than without, cause that's how they were meant to be played.

like I said, and you even quoted: "but I'll admit a lot of it comes from there being several different non-overlapping incest genres, like for me the loli, shota, f/d are all instantly off, as is ntr ones."

still the fact remains: there's very few games for people who look for the basic mom/son incest house genre. it's not like in 2018 when you got a few new ones every week, now it's more like 5 a year out of which 4 dies instantly. ask anyone who play these ones, they'll all say the same thing. (unless they love ntr, then there's more games).

it's kinda like how there's a million games with the tag 'lesbian' but almost none of them targets lesbian audience. or even hetero audience who don't want dick in their lesbians.

From the last month or so: No More Money, Photo Hunt, Guilty Pleasure, Motherless, Lust and Power, Luke's Way. I don't recommend them all btw, but this type still gets made even if all these are years old now. And much more in this thread.

 

[obibobi]

I'd really love that to be a thing. not sure if you can make it a full game though as it would be quite ridiculous if the characters kept tripping over and falling on dicks all the time.

it's also one of those things that would get insta-banned on patreon and can't be masked into something else, so that's another problem.

Funny you say that when one of the most popular perverted manga's ever made was about how the guy kept tripping into women and it even has it's own trope name, the Lucky Pervert.

I think there's 2 ways of looking at it, you don't need any fetish to be the whole thing, it can be an addition.

As for the ridiculous, the Peter Grill series had a chapter where he was under a magical curse that made him a lucky pervert, I always thought that would be a good setup

 

[Ying Ko]

The title is popular but underrepresented fetish, not popular but underrepresented tag. Incest characters are introduced first and feature heavily in the banner and screenshots, thus the incest tag is added. The developers then introduces content with non-incest characters and non-incest fetishes. Incest, which relies on deferred gratification to be effective, is built up to but rarely is the resolution met, because of abandonment or perpetual character/fetish/feature creep.

 

[anne O'nymous]

From the last month or so: No More Money, Photo Hunt, Guilty Pleasure, Motherless, Lust and Power, Luke's Way. I don't recommend them all btw, but this type still gets made even if all these are years old now. And much more in this thread.

There's also, counted over 30 days and to stay on the "mom/son incest house" approach, Being Super, Blossom of Pleasure, Desert Stalker, Lust Guide, Unnatural Instinct, and so many others. It's really not a genre that is underrepresented.

 

[Ying Ko]

What's underrepresented in adult western games/visual novels is focus, contrast that with hyper specific Japanese games and your average literotica story. A visual novel with different routes is good, but if every route appeals to a different kink audience, then people will just follow a walkthrough to get the route they want and their experience will be practically no different than that of a kinetic novel.

I'm making a fuly 3DCG game with Monstergirlsand I was wondering if this is an interesting kink for you aswell, or if I'm way too optimistic as how this would go.
The only thing I know for sure is that I can make good looking 3D Fantasy monstergirls, and I though of a few gameplay mechanics involving bondage and that would be interesting to have.
So yeah, Monsters+Bondage - my main concern is that most of games are often in the opposite spectrum, where the player is the sub - almost a Jerk Off Instruction type of deal.

A game about dominating monsters girls will probably be popular, depending on the design of the monster girls and the lack of other divisive kinks. Peasant Quest would be a good thread to use for research, as there's a segment of the game where you capture monstergirls and place them in a bdsm dungeon. Just make sure you give your game a title that instantly informs people that your game is about the protagonist dominating monsters girls and have the banner image represent that.

 

[HDiddy]

I mean lets be real..."Interracial" is way more popular in mainstrem and amateur porn than incest, and it is less represented than incest.

 

[anne O'nymous]

A visual novel with different routes is good, but if every route appeals to a different kink audience, then people will just follow a walkthrough to get the route they want and their experience will be practically no different than that of a kinetic novel.

Or they can use their brain. It's not like the majority of devs are imaginative and don't present 100% predictable choices.

 

[Bobo137]

A really plausibe, intelligent blackmail-Game. No dumb or horny prey. The demand always really and clearly being the better choice over the threat. Several stages, fighting back. Getting more and more powerful blackmail-assets. Changing her life.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

A really plausibe, intelligent blackmail-Game. No dumb or horny prey. The demand always really and clearly being the better choice over the threat. Several stages, fighting back. Getting more and more powerful blackmail-assets. Changing her life.

See, I never understood this. It's the same with most NTR. I'm not trying to kinkshame, but I don't get the appeal of watching someone get there entire life ruined. It just seems evil to me.

 

[Glib_Gentleman]

But the demand for incest is being met in spades? Not just in the porn game sector either, how many step-cest porn videos are made? You can't go to any porn site without finding it on the front page. Again, I ask, how the hell is incest underrepresented? (IDC that some games require a patch, those games are still CLEARLY incest games)

do you play incest games? because I do and it's a veritable drought out there. (but I'll admit a lot of it comes from there being several different non-overlapping incest genres, like for me the loli, shota, f/d are all instantly off, as is ntr ones.) people keep claiming every other game is a mom/son/dead dad incest home game, but that genre pretty much died out in 2018 or so.

The title is popular but underrepresented fetish, not popular but underrepresented tag. Incest characters are introduced first and feature heavily in the banner and screenshots, thus the incest tag is added. The developers then introduces content with non-incest characters and non-incest fetishes. Incest, which relies on deferred gratification to be effective, is built up to but rarely is the resolution met, because of abandonment or perpetual character/fetish/feature creep.

That's the thing Insomnimaniac Games - a lot of games that claim to be "incest" now, are just tagged with incest. It's superficial, it's tacked on, it's not real.

Incest as a porn kink isn't about the love interest being titled "mother" or "sister" instead of "land lady" or "room mate". It's about the taboo nature of the kink. And you can't do it RIGHT anymore with Patreon's restrictions.

Like Ying Ko said, it's about the build up and deferred gratification. Yeah, dozens of new games on here are TAGGED with incest, but few actually deliver since Patreon started its bullshit.

Because incest isn't just about the sex - it's about the ramifications. The guilt. The shifted family dynamic. The internal struggle. The grappling with "Oh, shit. What have we done?!" In short, for incest to be done well, the storyline needs to be ABOUT the incest. If the MC's friends don't care that he slept with his "room mate", it isn't real incest, even if you changed the title of the character's relationship to "sister".


Also, side note, but as someone who enjoys the incest kink, anyone claiming the "step-siblings" stuff counts can go jump off a bridge. To me, it's the incest kink equivalent to ending the story with "and it was all a dream". "Wow, that was some good hot incest sex we just had there, sis! Good thing we aren't related by blood." Fuck you, game.

So, yeah, incest is actually a still very popular, but now very underrepresented kink here on F95.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

That's the thing Insomnimaniac Games - a lot of games that claim to be "incest" now, are just tagged with incest. It's superficial, it's tacked on, it's not real.

Incest as a porn kink isn't about the love interest being titled "mother" or "sister" instead of "land lady" or "room mate". It's about the taboo nature of the kink. And you can't do it RIGHT anymore with Patreon's restrictions.

Like Ying Ko said, it's about the build up and deferred gratification. Yeah, dozens of new games on here are TAGGED with incest, but few actually deliver since Patreon started its bullshit.

Because incest isn't just about the sex - it's about the ramifications. The guilt. The shifted family dynamic. The internal struggle. The grappling with "Oh, shit. What have we done?!" In short, for incest to be done well, the storyline needs to be ABOUT the incest. If the MC's friends don't care that he slept with his "room mate", it isn't real incest, even if you changed the title of the character's relationship to "sister".


Also, side note, but as someone who enjoys the incest kink, anyone claiming the "step-siblings" stuff counts can go jump off a bridge. To me, it's the incest kink equivalent to ending the story with "and it was all a dream". "Wow, that was some good hot incest sex we just had there, sis! Good thing we aren't related by blood." Fuck you, game.

So, yeah, incest is actually a still very popular, but now very underrepresented kink here on F95.

Dude, incest is having sex with a family member. Get your philosophical "I'm smarter than everyone else" BS out of here.

 

[Glib_Gentleman]

Dude, incest is having sex with a family member. Get your philosophical "I'm smarter than everyone else" BS out of here.

I'm not claiming I'm smarter. I'm claiming most of the games I've played on F95 with the incest tag since Patreon started their bullshit aren't real incest games.

Don't know why you keep trying to tell everyone that THEIR fetish is well-represented when multiple people have now told you it isn't.

We're saying what's tagged with incest doesn't satisfy the incest kink requirements anymore and you're just doing the equivalent of - "It says incest! It has to turn you on! Look, it says so on the label!"

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I'm not claiming I'm smarter. I'm claiming most of the games I've played on F95 with the incest tag since Patreon started their bullshit aren't real incest games.

Don't know why you keep trying to tell everyone that THEIR fetish is well-represented when multiple people have now told you it isn't.

We're saying what's tagged with incest doesn't satisfy the incest kink requirements anymore and you're just doing the equivalent of - "It says incest! It has to turn you on! Look, it says so on the label!"

Just as many people have said incest is well represented. Badly written incest is still incest. Just because it doesn't satisfy your arbitrary rules, doesn't change the word's literal definition.

 

[Dessolos]

I think it would be considered a cum fetish. Only played 1 game with something close to this. But for me it would be having sex with a LI when she already has a face full of cum on her and not letting her clean it up. the cum would be either from the MC or from someone else doesnt matter to me.

 

[Glib_Gentleman]

Just as many people have said incest is well represented. Badly written incest is still incest. Just because it doesn't satisfy your arbitrary rules, doesn't change the word's literal definition.

Fair enough.

I think our frustration is just all the badly done or superficial name-change tagged stuff making it very hard to find the good stuff when searching Latest Updates.

But I guess that's a similar problem with every tag.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Fair enough.

I think our frustration is just all the badly done or superficial name-change tagged stuff making it very hard to find the good stuff when searching Latest Updates.

But I guess that's a similar problem with every tag.

Hopefully the new tags that are coming (at some point) help alleviate that. I do agree that there is a lot of incest games that are just incest for the sake of it. You can always tell when a dev just adds it because it's popular.

 

[koiflo]

Just include real incest. Everybody likes that.