what is the deal with sleep sex ?
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This explained my whole mind, thank you!
And yes, sleep sex for me it's a mix feeling/emotion of horny, aroused, thrilling, awareness, pleasure, and risky all in one. That's all. If you are taking the game story/dialogue really serious like me, where you can sense what the MC's feeling, you should understand that fantasy or 'fetish' whatever you called it.
Personally, I don't see Sleep Sex as fetish. It's just a normal interaction when you are horny at the moment and you see an (attractive) woman half-naked or wearing nightgown sleeping on comfy bed/sofa at night, sure some of may feel aroused. No matter who she is. The differences is how you manage to release your testosterone, take it or leave it? watch porn or jump into action. That's all I can say.
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- Aug 22, 2018
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Sleep sex is a polite way of saying rape by devs too scared to admit they want rape in their game.
Harem Hotel gets away with it because he uses it as an alarm clock with having one of the girls wake him up with some form of sex act.
However if it's one of those creepy cunt MC's fucking a woman while she's sleeping it's just rape.
Harem Hotel gets away with it because he uses it as an alarm clock with having one of the girls wake him up with some form of sex act.
However if it's one of those creepy cunt MC's fucking a woman while she's sleeping it's just rape.
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Denial is a dangerous thing. It's clearly nonconsensual, i wonder how they can convince themselves that it isn't rape.
How do you know she wanted it if she's sleeping. It's rape. I'm no legal expert so i'm not sure how valid it might be if you had explicit consent before she falls asleep, but i wouldn't put full trust in that.
- Aug 22, 2018
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Unless it's pre planned how can someone want it, they are asleep?
Apart from that, having sex with someone without consent, which sleep sex is because they are asleep is rape every time. Rape is sex without consent, you can't consent while sleeping.
People can play as many mental gymnastics as they want and try to make it sound how they like but it will always be rape.
It's basically a combination of everything in this thread. Mainly, it's an easy way to add sex without disturbing whatever stairway to heaven step they are on. The reason it gets on my nerves is because it's most often associated with the dickhead twerp MC that is a rapist, but everyone, including himself, doesn't acknowledge it. "Huuur duur I'm just a happy go lucky kid, I'm not raping my mom. This is totally innocent." If they own up to it, I don't mind it and even find it hot.
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Do people who define something as rape think it matters in the game, that the characters in them are #relatable or moral examples for children?
These aren't standard gamified hollywood narratives where every rape scene is legally mandated to have a follow-up revenge scene later either.
These aren't standard gamified hollywood narratives where every rape scene is legally mandated to have a follow-up revenge scene later either.
- Jun 19, 2019
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Different people like different things.
It's in a game and no one is getting hurt so I won't call you out for enjoying it my only point to my posts is there are people that try so hard to try and separate sleep sex and rape it just amuses me.
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Ya see - the kids, they play the incest vanilla games, which gives them the vestigial sleep rape scenes.
So they don't know what the
Ya see - somnophilia is like a power trip.
No, actually it's more like the fear of getting caught.
No! Actually, somnophilia is like a combination of both. And it'll be around forever.
Heh heh heh.
So they don't know what the
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is all about!Ya see - somnophilia is like a power trip.
No, actually it's more like the fear of getting caught.
No! Actually, somnophilia is like a combination of both. And it'll be around forever.
Heh heh heh.
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Also, every dev has a choice to make by choosing that the girl in sleep sex is actually faking the sleep and very well aware of it in which case it doesn't have to be forced sex. But it's far easier to add it as a trope of MC getting away with sex while the other person is unaware and MC gets away with it, but not having to implement a more obvious rape scene for fear of game rejection. Guess it works since and there are very clearly people that also enjoy it.
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This is a somewhat special fetish. Someone like him or not. I don't know much about this kind of sex, but i don't hate it either. From a legal point of view, it is actually rape. But none in which brutal violence is used. There are also relationships where this sex actually takes place, previously agreed. So, from a legal point of view, a gray area
- Dec 4, 2018
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Absolutely. That's the only way to legally depict it in real porn.
That's exactly what Avaron1974 finds amusing. It's rape but people are in denial about it.
Because it's a fetish in its own right. I push so hard that people acknowledge it for what it is because if they deny that it counts as rape in a game where no one gets hurt, they likely also deny it IRL where there are real consequences. Some people don't seem to be aware that not all rape is violent.
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Keep in mind that we are still talking about lewd games which most people play to enjoy. If it's a boner-killer it's pretty much bad by definion, unless you cater to those who actually want it as a fetish. In that case this whole revenge thing doesn't really matter anymore. By then you've ruined the mood of those who don't like rape and, if you add it later on, you add nothing for those who like the rapey stuff.
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Scenarios where a characters humans right's aren't being honored are quite common in games. It's common in media from which this sites audience grows out of and seeks something more interesting that pushes their boundaries.
Why would people financially support dull projects that are really inoffensive? They're not well made, otherwise the dev would be working in much more lucrative mainstream project and the one thing going for them is having content not found in mainstream. Questionable consent is perfect since it can be gamified easily and is rarely a boner killer for the audience.
- Jun 19, 2017
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All I said was that a dev has to know his audience and that the usual rules don't really apply. Else I don't really buy this "pushing the boundaries" stuff, simply because most people really aren't like that. At least not beyond a certain point.
As said before, in the vast majority of cases the somewhat questionable stuff isn't really there because there's much thought behind it, but because the dev is lazy. In most cases you could replace every bit of it with better writing and the games certainly wouldn't be worse. Having played quite a few games by now I usually try to skip most of that stuff simply because it's boring as hell.
Last but not least one should indeed differ between "questionable consent" and real "rape".
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Normally alot of your posts make sense and are good but you seem to deal sometimes too much in absolutes, "some" sleep sex is rape but "some" sleep sex is not rape, as an example the game virtues has a scene where a woman comes into the MC room and first looks at him then touches him and finally has sex with him while he is asleep. As i am the one playing the MC i wanted her to have sex with the MC the first night. I can assure you that was not rape and the sleep sex she had with the MC was very welcome.
There are a few game like this where women come into the MC's bedroom while he is asleep and touch him and even have sex with him and for me as a player it is always welcome. So not all sleep sex is rape. Try seeing the bigger picture sometimes
sure, why not. but that's not sleep fetish, that's the hard rape fetish where the kick comes from letting the victim know and doing it anyway. you win when she finds out. where as the sleep fetish is the opposite, you're trying to get away WITHOUT the victim finding out. you win when she doesn't find out.