What makes/breaks a game for you?

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If choices are implemented and said choices have consequences, I tend to enjoy those kinds of games. The opposite occurs if the choices mean squat.

Also, and this is not a bashing on those who have a fetish for it, but incest isn't something that gets me excited. Yes, I do watch threads of games with incest, sure, but there seems to be an abundance of them here, so its hard to avoid. Plus, the models used tend to be attractive, so I just pay no attention to the relations in-game.

I can't think of anything else atm, though, that's mainly due to being a simple heterosexual man. See digital vag, must stick digital dick in there. :p

There are some games out there where the story and characters are so interesting that I forget my original intent on downloading them.
 
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Evil Dr Porkchop

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most has been already mentioned,however a hard save point I hate autosave,Humor either Dark or otherwise I need a laugh before I get my rocks off
 

Alowicious

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Please excuse my ignorance but what is the difference between futa and shemale?
So, futas have both male and female parts like a hermaphrodite. They typically don't have testes. Shemales pretty much have the full package with no female parts. Besides that, at least in hentai, their body shapes are female.
 

e-disfunction

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Full disclosure:
I'm not a developer; I play many games (read books, listen music, watch films, etc.) and purchase some; I have only read half this thread (but will return for the remainder and change my comments, here, if necessary); and I agree, disagree, understand, accept, reject, and etc. everyone's perspectives here (humans are complex!) :). Thank you all for sharing! :love:

I like a wide spread of fictions, genres, ideas, realities, and thought experiments, so I can be comfortable with most anything (rape, gore, whatever) used in fiction as long as it has a 'worthwhile and necessary' reason for being in that plot/setting/scenario/charatcer/etc. To be sure, I don't need to like those things to understand them; also, like everbody, there are many, many things I do not search out. My comments below pertain to stuff in games/stories outside of the 'worthwhile and necessary' caveats ;). But, I'll try keep this short anyway. (y)

Dislikes: these kill a game for me

No real choice options! Prime game example, the character is growing up and I am given the choice of, a) Ignorant purity or monogamy (with the first acceptable candidate to stumble along), or b) Total slut with everyone thing. What about choices to experiment with your boundaries; trying some things to see if you like/dislike them; or any other reasonable third, fourth, or fifth choices??? :rolleyes:

Forced game-overs (i.e.: If I choose anything but the 'right choice', the game ends). I always think of these as "game-over" for the developer, not the player. :sneaky:

Penalties for choices—this is extremely dumb. Just turn it around: You create a bad game that I try, therefore you have to give me money ... I suspect you will stop making those games faster than I stop playing them. :cool:

Balloonized people :sick:. I love varied individual artistic styles, experiments, parodies, homages, and even "just learning"-type arts, but if everyone in your game has been "touched by the bicycle pump of the Titty Fairy or Penis Troll" for no artistic reason then I pull the plug.

Stupid characters are incredible and ridiculous—like accomplished businessmen who can't think in the presence of 51% of humanity; mature woman who suddenly loses her entire I.Q.; or any adult who is normally rational but now believes everything they read, hear, and see ;). (NOTE: Normal, ignorant, slow thinking, unexperienced/naiive, or just regular people are great and even realistic, but they are not stupid!)

Problem Areas: these are usually warning signs

Writing what "supporters" want to the detriment or exclusion of the original ideas, plot, and settings that made the game worthwhile to begin with. The usual result is a game that looks like every other cheap knock-off without any redeming qualities. Just "meh". :sleep:

Super-heroes/-villains, especially if they takes themselves seriously. 'Supers' almost always push my willing suspension of disbelief beyond breaking unless their powers are not the focus of the plot. :cautious:

My perspectives:

MC naming: There are many good and bad reasons for letting players choose the MC name. I find it best/easiest when I have been given a bit of the story and character backgrounds before the naming occurs to prevent him/her from accidently being called 'Abdulla Tong MacGrennich' which will likely end any player immersion in most settings. (y)

Fetishes: Like everyone, there are things that turn my stomach and I prefer to avoid those things, especially when they have "involuntary" in front of them ;). I know that creators wish to appeal to the widest audiences (or best-rewarding audiences). So, in this day and age when you can program your game any way you wish, you can at least give your prospective audience worthwhile methods of avoiding *some* things they may not like and give fair warning of the rest. :) Chances are that if there are things in your game that you wouldn't want to discuss with your grandmother, your spouse's boss, and/or your children then your potential audience will probably want to know about those in advance. (y)
 
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I'm probably different from 90% of the people on this board. I enjoy games that feature handjobs, blowjobs, and titjobs. While most games have these, they're basically starter sex that eventually leads to penetration sex. Once you get to the penetration sex, you rarely see handjobs, blowjobs, or titjobs any longer. I get hooked on a lot of games in the beginning but gradually grow bored of them as they go on because of this.
 

Sharper

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Makes:
Realistic story ( character relations, environment etc.)
Realistic dialogues and character behaviors
Render quality
Less importent character, more deep story
Less main routes (more content for every update)

Breaks:
characters who looks underage but stated as 18
scat, urination
futa
cancer game engine (unreal,lop games and sometimes unity)
developers who make 5 months long updates but mysteriously not losing patreons
unrealistic story and character behaviors ( all women in town get in a queue to bend over for mc for no reason. hmm, i'd watch teletubbies instead, at least there is a smiling sun... more realistic)

grinding, open:)world:)porn:)game ( if a VN game is an open world game, that means he is handling 1/4 of the hardwork compared to a linear game developer, but since open world mechanics make you waste your time 4x times longer, at the end of the day, it will look like they have the same amount of content. but no.

A dev who adds new fetishes to his game because of the toxic people from f95. He uploads the demo, someone creates a new thread for the game, but upload it with wrong or missing tags (no surprise), or everything is right but toxic people interestingly download and play it even it has the tags they don't like. Then, the show begins. 5-10 people screaming and crying because 1 of the 50 new games of this week, doesn't have the content they like. Then they are being toxic and trying to give advice to a dev that they will never support even if he change some options and add their sweet lovely cute hopeless content instead. He changed the story as toxic people like, lose the current patreons, no new patreons coming, 3 months later tagged abondoned. I would never play a game from a naive dev like this.
 

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A good story & character development is a must for me in a erotic games & while i (like most of us) love the H scene part of the game, too much of it to the point that it makes the story irrelevant kills it for me. Also, good translation.
 
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llun

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Makes:
Slow realistic "build up" to sex scenes.. even when the MC only gets a peek.. then slowly gets further and further.. i like to feel the tension build.. example.. "a wife and mother" i know.. not everyones cup of tea.. but it works as an example like the mothers inner voice and the reasoning she has for allowing herself to be a slut.. and the moments of regret and reflection after..

I know.. it is not a long list but if the story/fetish click well that will keep me returning just like a good book calls you back.. priceless

Breaks:
loli..shota..or anything showing underagesex/nudity. mind controll like spells.. or where the MC is basically "nice shoes wanna fuck" and gets every female in the game instantly.. futa.. scat..

Basically zero story just instant sex...

I know it is not the most extensive list of reasons but that is just my take on the topic
 

PJWhoopie

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Pointless Choices... I recently played a game that started with the MC in bed in the morning, and the choice was... the ONLY choice was... " GET UP ".

I had to laugh.. the only way to even start the game was get up. sheeshh....

Not a "breaker" but something that is making me really tired is the OVERUSED female character intro shot image that slowly scrolls from the feet to her head. stop it.. just stop!
 

EroticMK95

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Writing.

There as been far too many games that I swore were written by third grade children due to inexcusably horrible grammar, spelling & beyond bad storytelling itself. There's this one infomous idiot on here, he's worst for this. Without naming names, his expertise is in NTR/Interracial nonsense but the dude has no grasp of his own fucking native language & can't make a solid story that makes sense to save his life or use proper grammar, spelling or punctuation. If I got a quarter for every English fuck up he made in one of his games, I'd have $15-$20 halfway through it.
 

JHorcoc6

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1 - I hate grind. I have found some games on here that are great, but unfortunately, many of them require grinding prior to being able to do anything. If I have to waste a truly extraordinary amount of time before it is even possible for me to theoretically enjoy the game then I am going to repeatedly ask myself why I am wasting my life on it when I would rather be doing literally anything else. As much as I want to see what happens next, if the game is going out of its way to waste my time and make itself extremely boring (and many games on here are like that) then I will just not play it again and move on to the next one. Unfortunately, that is all too common. There are probably literally dozens of games on here that seemed great in theory but I stopped playing because of the grind.

2 - I like being able to make choices about the direction that the story takes. Some of the games on here allow the player to choose whether they will be an asshole who rapes and blackmails people or a nice guy who romances them. Although I would prefer a more nuanced approach instead of extremes, it is far more interesting to have such choices. If a game does not allow such choices I probably won't play it for very long.

3 - A related issue is that options that are obviously based on nonconsent should stay that way and not have the character being raped/blackmailed/etc. suddenly decide that they like it, which seems ridiculous and ruins the concept of picking that option. The Headmaster, did something similar to that in its most recent update and that is why I stopped supporting that game on Patreon, it was just too absurd and boring to continue.

4 - Another issue is how realistic the game is. Obviously, many games on here involve supernatural creatures and take place in other dimensions and so forth and that is fine but I think the story should make sense in the context established by the game. If it suddenly pivots to something that is completely illogical in the world of the game then I probably won't keep playing.

5 - If the characters aren't attractive then there isn't much point in playing the game. I consider characters with unrealistically gigantic breasts, female characters who appear to be decades older than me, morbidly obese characters and so forth to be unattractive. Similarly, I am not interested in gay characters or anything with transformation. Those can be in the game as long as they are avoidable since I will never pick those options. Forgotten Paradise was a great game until it introduced unavoidable transformation of the main character. I never played it again after reading about that.

6 - I want to play as a male protagonist and will not play a game that doesn't have that option. If some sort of domination is in the game then my character needs to be the one doing the dominating. If another character (regardless of who or what they are) dominates my character and I don't have the option to avoid it then regardless of how much I may have previously liked the game up until that point I will never play it again.

7 - The characters should match their descriptions. I find it annoying when characters are vividly described in text and then their videos and photos don't match at all and clearly no effort was made to make them match. Evil 2 did that. I mentioned it on that thread and was told that it was too difficult to do that for some reason which I find improbable when considering that most of the other games on this site managed to pull that off. If there are multiple girls in the game that my character can interact with it is far less interesting if they visually appear identical when according to the game they are completely different people and not twins.

8 - I have absolutely zero interest in having a sexual relationship with my mother! If a game makes sexual contact with the main character's mother unavoidable or if a character in the game that my character has sex with has the same name as my actual mother and I am not given the option to change that character's name then I won't play that game anymore.
 
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Virulenz

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Hmm...i must split my answer...and i'm to tired to write a long text, so i just make a list.

Male Protagonist Games
+++Story and/or Humor
++Harem
-MILFs, BDSM, SM
--Buddies, unnatural or ugly bodies (like fat asses, big tits, bimbo style, hairy girls except furry)
---unavoidable NTR, futas
I never would download MPG with sharing (incl. mmf, gangbang, prostitution and anything else involving another dick) content.

Female Protagonist Games
++Story and/or Humor, harem, incest
+++Decisions (sadly most FPG are based on a stupid slut that get fucked by everything on the way and i despise this concept)
-MILFs, BDSM, SM
--unnatural or ugly bodies (like fat asses, big tits, bimbo style, hairy girls except furry)
---unavoidable NTR, rape, prostitution, blackmail, guys, futa
I dont download FPG without pure lesbian routes except for bestiality/monster crossbreeding content.
 
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Makes: Character customization, sandbox gameplay, procedural generation and as much freedom of choice as possible.

Breaks: Railroaded games with little player agency. No male protagonist. Arbitrary grind. Strong focus on narrative.
 

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Hmm...i must split my answer...and i'm to tired to write a long text, so i just make a list.

Male Protagonist Games
+++Story and/or Humor
++Harem
-MILFs, BDSM, SM
--Buddies, unnatural or ugly bodies (like fat asses, big tits, bimbo style, hairy girls except furry)
---unavoidable NTR, futas
I never would download MPG with sharing (incl. mmf, gangbang, prostitution and anything else involving another dick) content.

Female Protagonist Games
++Story and/or Humor, harem, incest
+++Decisions (sadly most FPG are based on a stupid slut that get fucked by everything on the way and i despise this concept)
-MILFs, BDSM, SM
--unnatural or ugly bodies (like fat asses, big tits, bimbo style, hairy girls except furry)
---unavoidable NTR, rape, prostitution, blackmail, guys, futa
I dont download FPG without pure lesbian routes except for bestiality/monster crossbreeding content.
Exactly the same mate except for milf. I like milfs.
 

Niteowl

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Makes a game:
- Fantasy or Sci Fi settings (lots of better options in mainstream porn if I want realism)
- A wide variety of beautiful/exotic characters, in all kinds of shapes (but nothing too curvy or exaggerated)
- An interesting story
- Well written characters
- Interesting choices for the player
- 3deight renders or original art or Honey Select

Breaks a game:
- No story (or a dumb story....for example: geek in high school suddenly gets girls (drugs, magic, luck, whatever), yawn)
- Realistic settings (yawn, and lots of better options in mainstream porn anyways)
- Incest (I don't care about it as a kink either way, but it feels like devs working on incest were like: anything with incest will sell, let's just use some dumb story and so so renders, with no character development, so we can make money, thanks but no thanks, and, biggest reason, they all pretty much have the same boring story)
- Iray renders (1- Ew 2- guys, i know they take more work, but there are more models out there than the usual Victoria 7/8)
- Grotesquely curvy characters everywhere (Ew)
- Biggest pet peeve: endless grinds to hide the lack of story and content, choices that mean nothing, years of teasing before any H scene (yawn, go scam someone else)
 
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I haven't found exactly all the things that tickle my fancy and it happens from time to time that I come across something I haven't seen before that I quite enjoy. However, so far I'm fairly certain of these:
- Immersive story (For me a theme I can relate to is worth so much, I can forgive most graphics that accompany it)
- Creative moments for sex scenes (I love when a sex scene is consistent with the game world yet comes out of nowhere)
- Corruption (if done well)
- Voyeurism (Especially when you have to balance the risk of getting caught with the desire to keep watching)
- Believable characters (Falling in love can happen fast but if it's your *cough* landlady *cough* it should take more to get her on board than seeing your schlong once)
- Variety. Both in what scenes you can trigger but also in the character models and their behaviors.

Dealbreakers:
- Scat/Urination/drinking of cum/squirt
- Inconsistent characters (Either you're a naive semi virgin or you're a cockaholic, you can't jump back and forth)
- Pointless choices are not dealbreakers but they do dull my interest quite quickly.
- NTR, I've been cheated on IRL, I don't want to get cheated on in a game!
- Superpowers that aren't played for a laugh. If it's not meant as an absurd joke it's just an immersion killer.
- And super obvious but also forbidden here as far as I know, underage (if she looks 15 she's underage, I don't care if you say she's 37), any form of crush or necro or mantis also really kills anything for me. I will slam the report button so fast I'm likely to break something. Again though, these all seem forbidden here and I'm super happy with that.
- Traps/Futa
- Bestiality. Since the MC is often hung at least as well as a pony, I don't need to see an actual pony involved. Nothing but love to those that enjoy it but I thoroughly don't.
- Too high expectations (the dev expecting to become a millionaire, the player expecting perfection, the dev expecting if he puts a 2080TI in his rig it will somehow magically triple his possible output even though coding and writing won't get faster)

And probably my least favorite:
- Arguing. If fans are being shitty at eachother and at the dev and the dev caves and changes the game to please the vocal minority, only for another vocal minority to pop up and shit on the changes the dev made. You like a game or you don't. If you don't, perhaps you should just move on. This kind of shit can ruin a game for me even while it's downloading because I like to read through some of the comments while I wait. I don't want to argue or get forced into a team, just let me play what I want, you play what you want. It reminds me of movie torrents. All we want is your A/V rating, not your political affiliation or how you feel about the movie studio.

Okay, enough whining for me, it's late.
 
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In my humble opinion what makes and breaks the game for me is :

First one is what I like in the games that I am looking for is :

- Good decent graphics of events and sprites that matches, I would prefer 2D rather then 3D, Hentai esque or any drawings good quality ones if I may.

- Decent doll like body system like clothing being put on that reflected in the sprites and also there is like paper doll in the inventory where you can see your character, anatomically correct doll so we can oogle it when there is no action, lol
also reflected traits that can be seen on the character page ,

in example, your character just went to get a boob job , ass job, or did you just implant a dick ? wait when did I get 6 titties ? either via magic or via other methods and I want to see it on the character sheets because.. reasons.. LOL

- The game that rewards and punishes the player accordingly , in example like a death / rape / NTR that can be avoided as long as you the main character doesn't do anything stupid or just flunk so badly.. in example charging off to a level boss without preparation and lost while you know your cute/lovely companion is going to pay for it.

- The game offer options toward solving a quests that have results that we can see and feel the effects right away they can branch out and locke the other options as long as we can see and feel the effects of our selection.

- The game that offers us the ability to be as evil sick fuck as we can totally imagineable or be as good as saint extra paladins with angelic wings as possible again options and consquences would like to see more graphics due to this, fun fun.

- The game that offers humble beginnings as in you're an nobody trying to make it out in a very harsh cruel vicious world but leads to options to remedy that but only after a grueling trials and hero or anti hero journey.

- The game that have believable lores and that support itself with it's own lores and the character in the said game world also abide by the lores that it contains.

- The game that have characters that are memorable not just check box npc that we forget about in like 5 minutes into the game or after we finishes. The characters that have believable motives on why they did what they did either good or villains or neutral grey.

- The game that offers BDSM on the side not the main though that the main character can experience both as a Dominant role or as a slave roles.. with matching graphics included please if possible if not then it better be an excellent textual then

- The game that offers the world to explore as in sandbox the player got to explore a rich world filled with lores and people to interact and also involved in some intrigue politics that brew in that said lands either we can be part of it or just say f it and make your own kingdom / queendom from scracth

- The game that offers lot of craftings and other simple minigames of jobs or management jobs that offer the character options to acquire objects/weapons/armor/body mods to help them progress in game.

- The game that offer various valuable random juicy loot the stores just sells boring stuff but if you want to get something good you either need to craft it or hunt down enemies and grab theirs ! I know a few rpgmaker vx ace game that have this random loot system, after combat the enemy is defeated and you get a random loot weapon, or armor that is unidentified so you need to either identified it yourself or taking to someone that can identified it and then it lead to discovery of either the stuff you haul back is worth of anything their weights suggested.

- The game that offers lot of visceral gore in example like beserk universe world or warhammer 40 k world with it's glory. Also to added to boot that we can have options to what to do with enemy prisoners and apply either cruel gore as punishment for them or other options again freedom of options that will lead to results and consquences let us be free in exploring these in game not just set it to a forced moral rail that lead only to one option.

- The game that have decent villains or heroes that we can built up to a climactic dramatic epic hard tooth and nail fight and again after that.. give us options backed by pretty things to look at as in good graphic that is a reward for each of the option we choosen.

In example : A certain Female angelic paladin leader just keep butting in your way with her big cute butt always twarted your plans in doing anything 'evil' as evil is your thing ! after various attempt of black campaign, decoy, even direct assaults finally you got a glimpse chance to be able to confront her the said character have built up a rage or reasons to do so, like kidnapped your cute followers and doing stuff to them.. nasty stuff, kill the mc's pet animal familiar say.. a dog ? so you finally worked that rage.. and sexual frustation of getting blue balls due to her actions and finally you win and then we should have juicy options on what to do with her afterwards !

Now with that being said now let's go to the what breaks the game :

- The game had a bug issues as in lot of bugs wish you had a game bug spray or something , something with the codes that just keep breaking or giving you blue balls just when you're about to have a good moment or lead to a good event that just take the cake in what breaks the game for me.

- Unavoidable consquences that whatever thing you do , you can never ever change what happen at least give us option to avoid that.

- Lore breaking within the game by their own characters in game in example a character like dead pool shows up and starts meta gaming and just break your suspension of belief of what the game is.

- The game that have lots of features that doesn't results in lag or memory hog or memory leaks I am fine with just modest 2D graphics and game is in 2D sprites not a full 3D models I know this is a difficult thing to ask.

- The game have paywall, I am not saying I won't support the game developers but if you do have to sell it sell it on steam because I seem to unable to access anything else other than that. Nothing upset me more then playing a game then it starts to leads you to some site other site.. and starts to ask for money.. yeaaaah not coool..

- Real money loot boxes is a no no, as that is constitutes real life gambling that will mostly lead people to be desititute or poor in real life over a mere game gee game are supposed to be fun.

- The game got preachy by it's morality set of either the game developer or the script maker.. set us free to explore the 'dark side' and the consequences of our actions that is moral enough.. and it's a game we're here to take a vacation from real life just for a little while.

- If the game offers ntr, let us have the options to cut the dick off the main villains (various people that groped or dicked your in game waifus ) or other various more 'lovely' options or even punish mc's cheating wife/gf or whatever lol because game are supposed to be fun to make the player feels good yeah !
again most people just intended ntr just for the people that love the cuckold fetish at least give us options for the other that not will make the game more fun for the other party that not shares the love for cuckold fetish right ? means more market ? more potential to earn ring a ding ding $$ right ? lol we need a release on our pent up rage that causes by ntr scenes in game more preferably although most just fap to it, lol but hey.. most of the game just lead to pent up internal adrenaline driven rage or horniness and no climax to that and let it just hang, lol

- The main character have their own set of moral values that is already embedded and on a rail and nothing we can do to change that. Give us slippery slope, give us a chance to set our own moral values in game for our mc that we play.
 

tsuchinokoreal

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In terms of game design stuff, I tend to like short VNs, simplistic action platformers and short, non-grindy RPGs. When I'm playing pornographic games the gameplay isn't my main focus so I prefer stuff that can picked up and done with quickly so to speak.

Unlike seemingly most people here who tend to go for male MC harem games I like games with female MCs where most if not all of the sexual content is accessed by either losing or making the wrong decision/s. Of course it's better if the situations are more interesting than just "bump into enemy to lose" or "make one arbitrarily wrong choice once for a bad end". It's also good when you can still unlock the scenes in a gallery from winning.

Art quality and dialogue are by far the most important factors for me. While it is nice to have voice acting and fancy animation during porn scenes, they can't save bad art quality and bad/distracting dialogue.

In terms of sexual preferences and fetish stuff:
-I like female MCs who are either shameless sluts who get cocky and overwhelmed or corrupted masochists, or characters who can be corrupted into becoming one of these two archetypes.
-In terms of bodytypes, I like either plump, big titty MILFs or medium-relatively big titty "onee-san" types. I don't have any particular preference for hair colour and length etc.
-I like dark fantasy settings the most, probably because games with these settings are more likely to tick boxes for me in scenes and fetishes
-I'm into maledom, (light) BDSM, ero traps, monster/tentacle rape, gangbangings, corruption/mind control, urination and all of that other kinky shit. Not really sure why but it's just how I roll. I also like scenes which have an emphasis on cum swallowing/gokkun and I wish these kinds of scenes were more common.

I dislike games which overstay their welcome or actively go out of their way to waste my time. If a game seems to have an "epic" massive campaign or have grindy combat/management/minigames I'll most likely just try and find the CGs somewhere online instead. I also dislike games where the "game" part seems to be entirely pointless, like those "solve a picture puzzle for a jpeg of an anime girl in a bikini" games. It's also annoying when games don't let you save whenever you want or don't let you use multiple save slots. That's not common nowadays but it still happens.

In terms of sexual preferences that break a game for me:
-Needless to say like most other people on here I dislike loli/shota stuff. Having a borderline loli/shota side character who appears in just a couple of scenes is acceptable I guess but I won't touch a game which has loli/shota at the forefront.
-Vanilla stuff doesn't appeal to me in porn games. I like it when games include softcore scenes to "warm up" and I'm not entirely against vanilla but one of the main appeals of porn games to me is their more unique scenarios that they can present. If I want vanilla I might as well just go on pornhub or xvideos.
-For some reason, Sci-fi settings are a turn off for me. Something about it just feels too cheesy in a pornographic context.
-Some other fetishes draw the line for me, like scat, incest, NTR etc.
 
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