What makes you angry about the adult gaming community in general?

[MaxCarna]

Some games have very visible issue, they don't angry me at all, I don't give them that chance.

What bothers me most is when a game lose the story line. It starts with a interesting propose, seems to be going in a very nice direction, you start to raise some expectations about the outcomes, and then there is brutal turn, or the seems that the story hits a wall and the creator got lost. He start to walk to the sides and visible don't know there to go.

You spend time playing 3, 4 or more versions, when happens, you feels like you wasted a lot of time, and time is a valuable resource. I believe that creators don't need to have the whole story written before putting out some content, but he need to delimit the key events before everything else. They can add tons of content between one key event and the next, but the wayroad is set. I don't know if makes sense, but any game can grow horizontally, but the vertically should delimited.

 

[grtrader]

Removed because I am tired of staff behavior

 

[Ragnar]

This game needs X genre or to get rid of Y genre, dude, just search a game of your liking and stop bitching about it, nobody cares.

 

[Kyril87]

The main thing that gets to me is lousy plots, followed closely by indifferent scripting. I am aware that the average porn movie shows little concern for either plausibility or logical development, but the games and VNs on this site are supposedly developed -- by developers. If you have a fairly good idea of what your story is you can flesh it out (Oh! was that a pun?) with brilliant, competent, or just adequate graphics and the package still works. If you only have a vague idea of where you're going, but think that throwing in some attractive models with BIG TITS and uncontrollable horniness should be good enough for the mentally subnormal wankers of your target audience, you will end up mired in a plot that's going nowhere. At this point, with patrons deserting en masse, it's a bit late to start correcting fundamental deficiencies.

I know that it's unreasonable to expect War and Peace, but take some hints from games generally acknowledged to be good.

 

[Jushak]

Angry is a bit big word for it but... When it feels a game that showed promise or that you've followed for year+ has turned into nothing more than money-making scheme. Long waits for minimal content. Update dates mysteriously coincide with Patreon paydays. The developer keeps giving statements that end up being false. That kind of stuff.

As a professional programmer I do get it. I've had my days when I expected to spend 1 hour tops with some specific issue in my code, only to realize at the end of the day that 1 hour tops issue took the entire day and it might not even be fixed yet. This will get orders of magnitude worse if you've had to learn as you go and your codebase ends up being hot garbage. Same with writing and art I'm guessing - you want to put out great stuff, but you simply lack inspiration. I know I've spent hours trying to write a story that I have a clear outline for in my head, but am unable to get past the first paragraph since I keep starting over, unhappy with how it goes.

My other pet peeve is the sheer volume of incest games out there. This isn't limited to adult gaming - I do get that incest is by far the easiest fetish to cater to in porn, since it requires minimal effort and turns off minimal number of people, which makes it extremely prevalent. In adult games this translates to poorly written MC+mother+sister with non-existent father scenarios with some excuse why they end up being OK with the MC fucking both of them.

Now this shitty premise can lead to an actually good game, don't me wrong. I don't have anything against the fetish itself either - it's easy enough to ignore. It's just that most of the time it's badly written and feels like a detriment to the game, like a mandatory bit the dev isn't particularly interested in, but adds because they "need" it for the Patreon support. And because it's popular, they keep adding more and more half-assed content to it, to the detriment of the rest of the game.

 

[rangaru]

Adult men writing "mommy" constantly and demanding to introduce boring momcest cliche in every game.
And furries but they're annoying everwhere so that's given.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

1. People who complain in a game with clear tags about a fetish that is clearly tagged.

2. People who don't read the OP. (Yeah i'm guilty myself of not doing that once or twice and i facepalmed at myself)

3. People who absolutly don't read and ask the same question that got already answered a few posts before their post

4. People who say a game is shit because of a certain fetish. Read the god damn tags and if you don't like them, move on!

5. People that want to force their opinion on you and start to get insulting if you don't agree with them.

6. People that ask for a walkthrough for the most linear things.

7. People that are always wearing their pink glasses when it comes to certain developers laziness, yes its a specific term and i don't want to explain it further.


These things don't make me angry, they just trigger me slightly.

 

[Glad]

People who complain in a game with clear tags about a fetish that is clearly tagged.

There is a big problem with tags. They can mean a primary theme of the game, a reoccurring theme or a plotline, one full scene that can be described by said tag, a small part of one scene that might not even warrant a tag. I don't trust tags at this point, but I'm also used to anti-fetishes coming out of left field, so...

 

[Carpe Stultus]

There is a big problem with tags. They can mean a primary theme of the game, a reoccurring theme or a plotline, one full scene that can be described by said tag, a small part of one scene that might not even warrant a tag. I don't trust tags at this point, but I'm also used to anti-fetishes coming out of left field, so...

Well i agree to a certain degree but if you absolutly hate a certain fetish, lets just take the most polarising one NTR as example here, and the game has the NTR tag you don't just go and download that game, play it and then complain afterwards about the NTR. Same goes for seeing the tag and then go into the thread and write something stupid like: "oh well it has NTR in it so no download" or "i hate NTR".

 

[JHorcoc6]

1 - Far too many games involve grinding to the point of becoming extremely boring. This wrecks the game and ensures that I will stop playing it.

2 - Many games start out seeming like they will be good but then get wrecked by censorship from Patreon. There are other sites out there, such as Subscribe Star, that they could use or maybe even make something new if need be. If Patreon won't allow the game to be made in the way intended by the developer then fuck Patreon. They should just take their business elsewhere if Patreon doesn't want it.

3 - Games that are so poorly designed that despite spending a long time on them I can't figure out how to get out of the first room that my character starts in. This has happened several times in different games. Sometimes I search the threads on here for help and if I can't find it ask questions. Other times I just delete the game and move on to the next one.

 

[Joraell]

1/ In day of the release version 0.xx >> "Hey! Where next version will come?"
2/ Game with headlamp renders or daylight renders >> Reviews: Excelent renders, awesome quality. "I like tits and butts"
3/ Backward/forward 2 second loop animation >> Woow, that animations! I never saw better.
4/ In game is no options and another than main way to play it. >> Hey dev! I missed that scene with Saleswoman! Why there is no warning about it! It's stupid game If you cannot reach all scenes on one play! WHAT you THINKING!!
5/ After new update, 15 minutes later >> It's all? Just this? I was skipped, this event and that scene and that one and there is nothing more?
6/ Game main theme is body swap >> Beeeee! Dev must be gay because MC swapped into female!!!
7/ Excelent game cause tits and butts is here!
8/ Hey stop bitching here! This dev just needs it's rest to make that game great! (after 7 months with no update)
9/ Just after someone posted crashfix >> Hey guys I have this gamecrashing bug? Anybody know how to fix it?
10/ Game is unplayable because it's full of bugs. >> "Love that game cause there is butts and tits." 5 stars and screwdriver is in wardrobe.

Overall: Lazynes and really low standarts in terms of quality in maybe 80% of whole community that draging that whole industry down. Because if standarts is low, results is low too.

 

[kytee]

If we're talking the community in general, then what I'm angriest about are people's extremely low standards about what constitutes good writing. I look up a game, read the reviews with 90% of them at 5 stars touting how amazing the story is, so I go in expecting the next Andy Sorkin and I get some B-Tier trash at best. I almost want to write a review thoroughly dissecting every detail about what makes the game absolute trash but then I realize, it'd probably be best to avoid turning any potential readers into a bitter pretentious fuck like me. At least if you have low standards, you can enjoy playing the plethora of bad games out here instead of being doomed to wander eternally in frustration to find a game that meets your outrageous standard of quality.

 

[Joraell]

If we're talking the community in general, then what I'm angriest about are people's extremely low standards about what constitutes good writing. I look up a game, read the reviews with 90% of them at 5 stars touting how amazing the story is, so I go in expecting the next Andy Sorkin and I get some B-Tier trash at best. I almost want to write a review thoroughly dissecting every detail about what makes the game absolute trash but then I realize, it'd probably be best to avoid turning any potential readers into a bitter pretentious fuck like me. At least if you have low standards, you can enjoy playing the plethora of bad games out here instead of being doomed to wander eternally in frustration to find a game that meets your outrageous standard of quality.

Yeah,and that is not just about writting but in every aspect of game. (Visuals, writting, sounds, gameplay, animations)

 

[Joraell]

And I forget one thing wich is maybe the most worse of all.

Game fanboyism.
Fanboys that making 1star reviews just for purpose just because someone told about their favorite game, that something is bad on it, or worse than in other game.
Than making hype about that favorite game.

Again it's goying from low standarts.

 

[recreation]

1/ In day of the release version 0.xx >> "Hey! Where next version will come?"
2/ Game with headlamp renders or daylight renders >> Reviews: Excelent renders, awesome quality. "I like tits and butts"
3/ Backward/forward 2 second loop animation >> Woow, that animations! I never saw better.
4/ In game is no options and another than main way to play it. >> Hey dev! I missed that scene with Saleswoman! Why there is no warning about it! It's stupid game If you cannot reach all scenes on one play! WHAT you THINKING!!
5/ After new update, 15 minutes later >> It's all? Just this? I was skipped, this event and that scene and that one and there is nothing more?
6/ Game main theme is body swap >> Beeeee! Dev must be gay because MC swapped into female!!!
7/ Excelent game cause tits and butts is here!
8/ Hey stop bitching here! This dev just needs it's rest to make that game great! (after 7 months with no update)
9/ Just after someone posted crashfix >> Hey guys I have this gamecrashing bug? Anybody know how to fix it?
10/ Game is unplayable because it's full of bugs. >> "Love that game cause there is butts and tits." 5 stars and screwdriver is in wardrobe.

Overall: Lazynes and really low standarts in terms of quality in maybe 80% of whole community that draging that whole industry down. Because if standarts is low, results is low too.

100% This!

 

[Deleted member 167032]

It's simple...

The AVN world is split into only two parts.

1. They like a VN with a story and characters that draws them in and the game becomes second life to them. You know you think about the characters and what is going to happen after you played latest update long after you finished it.
2. You want incest/milf/hare/ntr/non-ntr/pissing/anal/(all kinds of weird ass kinks) and not think about anything but "Chocking your CHICKEN " or "Deflowering your flower" as hard and fast as you can.

If you don't find what you after in a game then some ppl bitch about it instead of just leaving and playing something that does cater for your needs. That part irritates me and biggest gripe is the "Constructive criticism" thing some hide behind. NO you just downright being an ass when giving your opinions. I've seen uplifting criticism and I've seen destructive moaning.

Phew.. getting that out felt as good as when you keep in a piss miles away from home and then release.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

1/ In day of the release version 0.xx >> "Hey! Where next version will come?"
2/ Game with headlamp renders or daylight renders >> Reviews: Excelent renders, awesome quality. "I like tits and butts"
3/ Backward/forward 2 second loop animation >> Woow, that animations! I never saw better.
4/ In game is no options and another than main way to play it. >> Hey dev! I missed that scene with Saleswoman! Why there is no warning about it! It's stupid game If you cannot reach all scenes on one play! WHAT you THINKING!!
5/ After new update, 15 minutes later >> It's all? Just this? I was skipped, this event and that scene and that one and there is nothing more?
6/ Game main theme is body swap >> Beeeee! Dev must be gay because MC swapped into female!!!
7/ Excelent game cause tits and butts is here!
8/ Hey stop bitching here! This dev just needs it's rest to make that game great! (after 7 months with no update)
9/ Just after someone posted crashfix >> Hey guys I have this gamecrashing bug? Anybody know how to fix it?
10/ Game is unplayable because it's full of bugs. >> "Love that game cause there is butts and tits." 5 stars and screwdriver is in wardrobe.

Overall: Lazynes and really low standarts in terms of quality in maybe 80% of whole community that draging that whole industry down. Because if standarts is low, results is low too.

To your point 2. I know that feeling, smack a character into an HDRI and people go nuts while they don't care if you take the time to do a proper lighting, i've seen that in my renders.

 

[Joraell]

To your point 2. I know that feeling, smack a character into an HDRI and people go nuts while they don't care if you take the time to do a proper lighting, i've seen that in my renders.

For some of this games I talked about is even HdRi too much advanced technology

 

[Carpe Stultus]

For some of this games I talked about is even HdRi too much advanced technology

Yeah that happens too. xD

 

[lawfullame]

What makes me angry about the adult gaming community in general?

Nothing. Gaming is supposed to be fun. If I don't like a game, I don't play it or I'll stop playing it.

If I don't like the behavior of a community member, I can ignore him.
There are a lot of serious things in life that I have to worry about, so I can't afford to get angry about things related to adult games.

That's my second biggest hate.

My first is devs that pander too much to their audience.

When I download a game or a novel I do so under the assumption i'm going to be looking at the devs work and ideas. I don't want to follow a game that has ideas from half that devs Patron because those end up a messy cluster fuck of nonsense.

When it comes to story I expect the dev to have it laid out already with a plan on how they are going to do it and the means to finish it. Sure it's expecting a lot but after several years of playing adult games i'm sick to the back teeth of abandoned bullshit and half arsed copy pasta incest games being shat out.

In addition to playing adlut games and VNs, I am developing one adult visual novel. It's mainly a hobby project, so development is slow.
I don't think listening to community feedback is always bad. I know what I want in my visual novel, but some suggestions from community members are worth considering. For example, several people wrote that they did not like the eyebrows of one of the two main girls.
I tried a few other options and eventually found that I liked the character better when I made her eyebrows different.
So I decided to change the character a bit before the next update.


I originally assumed that only one of the two girls would be the main romantic interest in my VN.
But some people prefer the other girl. So I decided that it would be possible to choose which of the two girls girls would evolve into the main romantic interest.

It will take a few updates, because each of the girls has a different history with MC.

The main point is that I also liked the idea from the beginning, I even considered it before the people suggested it, but I was just afraid that the development would be more demanding.

On the other hand, I would never include something just to please players if it's something I don't like, or I feel like it doesn't fit my VN. So, for example, incest is a big "NO" to my visual novel.
Not because of Patreon, there are always some workarounds, but simply because I don't want it in my VN.