when did ntr became so popular?

[Evangelion-01]

The big law is that for a bull to exist, a cuck is absolutely necessary—and vice versa.

Sure normally that would be logical and fine... but considering WHAT is discussed in this thread you need to dipher.

Another essential point: why do so many users believe they have to project themselves onto the protagonist—in the case of an NTR work, the cuck? Why can't a random player project their own ego onto the bull's actions? Is there some rule forbidding this erotic intellectual exercise?

Likely because most people play games here as a form of roleplaying?
Atleast when I play a game I want to imerse myself as a protagonist and avoid all games that either won't allow me or will put me in the victim role.
I personally think it's rarer for people playing roleplaying games without self immersion with the protagonist... so the better question is why is that?

For example, depending on my mood, I project myself onto one or several characters—when I want to feel pain and get pleasure from my soul being thoroughly fucked, I project onto the cuck; when the protagonist is poorly written or just boring, I make sure all his choices lead to him getting cucked by the bull, sometimes out of pure sadism, in a way identifying more with Tyrone than with the 'MC'; or sometimes when I'm feeling particularly upbeat, I just enjoy being an omniscient spectator of someone else's moral depravity, without necessarily identifying with any character, just orchestrating their actions to reach the outcome that gives me the most pleasure—like a depraved, horny demiurge.

I can see this as a point when I read a story either told from the perspective of an outside observer or from the point of the girl... but in a game this is nothing I even consider.

So the big question is... why do so many users feel this obligatory need to project themselves onto the MC?

And only onto him?

It might depend on the game you play... I avoid VNs as to boring so the games I tackle are either Sandbox or RPG, if you have to invest into the MC and the game it's more common you build a relationship with the MC that normally goes from Zero to Hero... though I admit this is a personal perspective... probably a common one though based on your own observation.

P.S.: As an Evangelion fan, I absolutely loved your pfp.

 

[Zakharova]

Sure normally that would be logical and fine... but considering WHAT is discussed in this thread you need to dipher.

Likely because most people play games here as a form of roleplaying?
Atleast when I play a game I want to imerse myself as a protagonist and avoid all games that either won't allow me or will put me in the victim role.
I personally think it's rarer for people playing roleplaying games without self immersion with the protagonist... so the better question is why is that?

I can see this as a point when I read a story either told from the perspective of an outside observer or from the point of the girl... but in a game this is nothing I even consider.

It might depend on the game you play... I avoid VNs as to boring so the games I tackle are either Sandbox or RPG, if you have to invest into the MC and the game it's more common you build a relationship with the MC that normally goes from Zero to Hero... though I admit this is a personal perspective... probably a common one though based on your own observation.

Thanks for responding in such a calm, rational, and objective way. People like you are rare these days.

 

[WispDev]

What I've been finding interesting is that it seems like there are infinitely more threads decrying NTR than there are in support of it. Meaning, anti-NTR people have been making threads nonstop about why they hate it, the downfall of civilization, something something masculinity, and sending death threats to developers voicing their disgust in the game threads themselves, while NTR lovers are just straight jorking it without a care in the world.

They'll pop up in a thread, ask if there's going to be NTR, get told to kill themselves, then go jork it elsewhere. They seem like pretty chill guys overall. Well I guess that stands to reason if they like NTR. Ha.

 

[UnfortunateReturn]

Oh man you're a real sex haver? You've stuck your dih in a real womans puh? That's awesome man glad you stopped by to let us know! Wanna describe how it went for us chronically online insecure people?

So like 20 years ago, my cousin got like REALLLY drunk... he put on this skirt and some makeup...

 

[Draim]

So like 20 years ago, my cousin got like REALLLY drunk... he put on this skirt and some makeup...

Story of my life

 

[Evangelion-01]

What I've been finding interesting is that it seems like there are infinitely more threads decrying NTR than there are in support of it. Meaning, anti-NTR people have been making threads nonstop about why they hate it, the downfall of civilization, something something masculinity, and sending death threats to developers voicing their disgust in the game threads themselves, while NTR lovers are just straight jorking it without a care in the world.

They'll pop up in a thread, ask if there's going to be NTR, get told to kill themselves, then go jork it elsewhere. They seem like pretty chill guys overall. Well I guess that stands to reason if they like NTR. Ha.

Sure because NTR people tend to do the crying in games thread instead of Discussion threads like this
But seriously I think you are simply not paying enough attention.
I have seen enough NTR fans comeing into a Harem thread and tell the Dev they are about to fail as game Devs because they don't have NTR in the game... I'd say based on the ammount of NTR fans vs other fetishes the percantage is actually higher for people doing that.

 

[WispDev]

Sure because NTR people tend to do the crying in games thread instead of Discussion threads like this
But seriously I think you are simply not paying enough attention.
I have seen enough NTR fans comeing into a Harem thread and tell the Dev they are about to fail as game Devs because they don't have NTR in the game... I'd say based on the ammount of NTR fans vs other fetishes the percantage is actually higher for people doing that.

That's fair. I don't really have express interest in harem or ntr, but if I had to choose between the two I'd probably check out the ntr game. I have this weird thing where I just know the dev is laughing at me and calling me a loser whenever I play a harem game. My personal preference, of course, is neither.

Fortunately for me, people who've asked if my game will have NTR or if it'll be harem have been equally nice about the answer.

 

[Evangelion-01]

That's fair. I don't really have express interest in harem or ntr, but if I had to choose between the two I'd probably check out the ntr game. I have this weird thing where I just know the dev is laughing at me and calling me a loser whenever I play a harem game. My personal preference, of course, is neither.

Fortunately for me, people who've asked if my game will have NTR or if it'll be harem have been equally nice about the answer.

I mean if we are fair an NTR Dev is more likely calling you a looser for being a cuck... though I have a feeling fans of the genre actually enjoy such a thought more than others

 

[WispDev]

I mean if we are fair an NTR Dev is more likely calling you a looser for being a cuck... though I have a feeling fans of the genre actually enjoy such a thought more than others

Oh for sure. NTR is basically a goldmine right now so you've got to get in while the getting is good. I'd jump on that bandwagon in a heartbeat if I could tolerate making things I wasn't interested in. I salivate at the thought of making $7k a month on Patreon...

That being said, I think the core difference between NTR and Harem is that NTR fans, according to them, don't self-insert as the MC, and wouldn't tolerate actually being cheated on irl. Similar to how incest aficionados have no actual attraction to their relatives other than that one cousin that one time because that swimsuit was way too small and you were kind of drunk. Something something violent video games. Fantasy being fantasy and whatnot.

 

[desmosome]

Oh for sure. NTR is basically a goldmine right now so you've got to get in while the getting is good. I'd jump on that bandwagon in a heartbeat if I could tolerate making things I wasn't interested in. I salivate at the thought of making $7k a month on Patreon...

That being said, I think the core difference between NTR and Harem is that NTR fans, according to them, don't self-insert as the MC, and wouldn't tolerate actually being cheated on irl. Similar to how incest aficionados have no actual attraction to their relatives other than that one cousin that one time because that swimsuit was way too small and you were kind of drunk. Something something violent video games. Fantasy being fantasy and whatnot.

You are talking to a person that literally will not believe anyone that says they don't automatically self-insert when playing games. Because it's impossible for him to not self-insert, it must be like that for everyone else. I've had multiple thorough discussions about this topic with him over the years.

 

[WispDev]

You are talking to a person that literally will not believe anyone that says they don't automatically self-insert when playing games. Because it's impossible for him to not self-insert, it must be like that for everyone else. I've had multiple thorough discussions about this topic with him over the years.

Oh damn. Well that's definitely a non-starter then. Good shout, time to bail.

 

[Icarus Media]

You are talking to a person that literally will not believe anyone that says they don't automatically self-insert when playing games. Because it's impossible for him to not self-insert, it must be like that for everyone else. I've had multiple thorough discussions about this topic with him over the years.

Really? So...is it like that thing where some people don't have an inner monologue so they cannot understand people with one?

 

[Nerdbro]

Lol it ain't popular at all people just love bitchin about it for some reason. You don't see em bitching about gay games or any other games they don't like and avoid. Prolly racism if I had to guess you can see the same in rule34video where only interracial videos gets downvoted by these individuals.
I love all kind of games ntr, harem, creatures don't really care what people likes let em enjoy what people enjoys.

 

[desmosome]

Really? So...is it like that thing where some people don't have an inner monologue so they cannot understand people with one?

To be fair, I did include some armchair psych when attributing the reason for his refusal to accept that some people just don't self-insert when playing these porn games. But he definitely doesn't accept the explanation of "I don't self-insert" from enjoyers of NTR content.

 

[MissCougar]

You need cure .

I'm not sure what this means?

MissCougar have you listened to The Cure?

If it's a band I do not listen to it or have ever heard of them I'm aware of.