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Still 2 routes of cake's game, but since I was away I was thinking I will fo' sure come back to this thread to a dl link, sorco2003 what do you have to say in your defense?
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That the cake´s game came out. I don't know, think about it.Still 2 routes of cake's game, but since I was away I was thinking I will fo' sure come back to this thread to a dl link, sorco2003 what do you have to say in your defense?
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The game is very beautiful and the women are beautiful. the potential is great. I hope there will be a lot of sex. and regular updates.
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If that's what the definition is here, I'll bow out embarrassed. But saying something is kinetic when it is static is a misuse of the term kinetic in the first place. Language adapts I guess, a rose by any other name is an elephant?
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What are you confused about? You've been here long enough to know that you can't trust a word they say. There are only a few exceptions. Oceanlab is just another dev in a long line people who love to bend the truth. There are no consequences to it so they will keep doing it. He probably congratulated himself for being such a hard worker when he wrote the lines about McD. Then he jerked off to it and the post nut clarity made him realise he can't do anything of what he just posted. Meh, who cares. I'll get my money. Here are some boring renders as collateral. It's all about that steam cash now.I still dont understand the vargue language of the last SG post (no hate) I mean he said polish is done and testers dont need more than a day because the update is straight foward but in the last SG post he talks about upcoming days (which can mean anything) and also soon before chirstmas?? but I tought that the game is already at the testers that wont need longer than a day
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Have a look at the VNDB link, it explains why kinetic is used in this context (not just at f95).If that's what the definition is here, I'll bow out embarrassed. But saying something is kinetic when it is static is a misuse of the term kinetic in the first place. Language adapts I guess, a rose by any other name is an elephant?
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I'll accept that logic, even if it triggers me despite my frequent typos. Ignore my incorrect use of the term. I still stand by my opinion of the way the plot structure will likely go, and how very few novels actually offer the marketed "meaningful choices" regardless of terminology. It's at least something to do while waiting for CH3 to appear
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I mean ocean is normaly trustworthy so i dont get the hate but I still dont understand why he cant give a date if he is already finished and the game has been tested I mean just be honest and say I wait for the router to come or there are bugs no idea what happend but I would just communicate that
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While I entirely agree the name Kinetic Novel is a confusing misnomer (I fell for the same confusion many many suns and moons ago too), it's not just the definition here. It's the de-facto definition for the sub-genre of VN with no choices.If that's what the definition is here, I'll bow out embarrassed. But saying something is kinetic when it is static is a misuse of the term kinetic in the first place. Language adapts I guess, a rose by any other name is an elephant?
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If I manage to keep that as my biggest faux pas here I guess I'll consider myself lucky
It shows good temperament when one can do a public mea culpa, unlike some that doubles down on a proven mistake...If I manage to keep that as my biggest faux pas here I guess I'll consider myself lucky
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OCEAN - Update is gonna come in a few days
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I'd consider it a very non-issue, especially since you've been very cordial about it. There are a lot that get super aggro over nothing, or something that's been politely explained, even just in this thread. Plus, I've said much dumber things here, so I'd say you're good.If I manage to keep that as my biggest faux pas here I guess I'll consider myself lucky
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He doesn't try to make his work perfect. Neither is Ocean working 365 days, 7/7, 24/24 to deliver an update of one hour by year. He is just doing the strict minimum because there's no insentive for him to work. Whether, he delivers one update each month/3 months/6 months/year. His pigeons are still wasting the same amount of money on his dead project.
F*** those guys, they're the ones responsible for the situation. I hope Ocean keeps scamming them forever. My bare comfort is knowing that they're the most involved in the project, wasting money on useless renders and time in his discord/echo chamber. In a few more years, reality may hit them hard realizing they wasted all this money and time on bare content but I still doubt it, delusion as such is one hell of a disease.
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Ha, the merest hint of a delay and all the doomsayers immediately come out of the woodwork...
The difference between them and me?
If, God forbid, Ocean shut up shop and quit next year, I would likely acknowledge that the doomsayers called it, WHEREAS...
If Ocean is still chugging out updates for SG/WIAB in a couple of years, as he's pretty much done since 2021, doomsayers will still be shitposting about him and predicting the imminent demise of both projects.
PS - I have no skin in this game financially. Ocean said SG Beta in October (DONE), WIAB in November/December, and SG Full in December/January. December (and January) ain't over yet... so who's been fooled?
...and, yeah, I know you have a bone to pick with Ocean 'cause the reworked WIAB doesn't feature the same amount of NTR as the original. Post histories reveal what users hate on Ocean because reworks took away their candy, no matter how much they try to disguise their disappointment as something else.
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To be fair no he doesn't. He gets donations to help development...you're buying nothing.
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Your logic is making irrational connections.
- Patreons pay to help him develop. Their rewards are listed - not a product, but access, including the chapters on release. They get what they're signing up for.
- The product goes public because patrons share it, not because it is automatically a public release. It comes out the side door, not the front. Show me where you can get Ch5 Beta of SG officially for example. When WiaB Ch3 is leaked (there's the side door, not the front) You can show me were the official public link Ocean uses to advertise is.
- Ocean is not selling WiaB or SG. He has sold access to the development of the games (from the patreon):
- Patreon Tier One: Access to the patreon only feed and a thank you (access to dev logs only, no product for $2.50/mo)
- Patreon Tier Two: Previous, plus access to full releases (not beta) plus previews, plus discord access (more access to development, no access to betas unless they grab leaks for $5/mo)
- Patreon Tier Three: Previous, plus access to beta after three days, access to lewd previews, access to wallpapers (for $10/mo, slower delivery of the official betas than the leak, more development access)
- Patreon Tier Four: Previous, but access to beta on release, access to blender trials (for $20/mo, access to all Ocean's development process, and the betas.
Nowhere is there a release schedule saying how frequently you'll recieve any of this. If you sign up with expectations beyond what's started, it's your own misconception of what is being offered. Not all patreons get the beta, first tier exists for people who want to support but are fine to go through the side door. Feel free to show me where the official public release links are that explains how you justify the dev making the release public. Currently the releases are patreon only, no other way than non-official leaks.
When things are leaked here, the complete dev logs with previews and blender treats, the betas, the full previews and betas are leaked by the $20/mo patrons who are being kind.
Whatever you might think, patronage is paying for the rewards they sign up for, the level of support they're willing to give. The wording even mentions how you are supporting development, rather than buying a game; the game is not for sale, it is a reward for supporting the finished product. Some devs have multiple games available as rewards on the one patreon, so they can develop new games. It might seem like semantics, but it is what the patreon offers - support is what patrons purchase, and they get rewards.
I am not a patron, I'd rather buy the game when there's a public purchase link. I don't think your logic of pirates have a right to demand delivery because Ocean gets paid by someone else holds true. If there is no official release link, then we're all going in the side door on day one, looting and pillaging, courtesy of someone who did pay at least $20/mo. I'm grateful for the patrons who think it is worth trying to expand Ocean's user base beyond patreon.
I can't think that there's anything in life I deserve just by existing. Respect is earned and too easily lost, like a permadeath roguelike. I don't automatically deserve optional leisure activities; those are optional extras far above the necessities.
You were going good till you decided to mention a fetish for no apparent reason, people are complaining about the update right now, not NTR.