My thoughts exactly, with the release of SG on Steam, more people are likely to come and support on Patreon as well. Maybe having only one account is easier for newcomers, less confusion. But it could also be a legal issue. I guess we'll have to wait for the next dev log which should be coming out soon, as Ocean hinted about what could happen to Wiab in the last one, and I think this is it.
Steam don't care about incest...and as for Patreon supporters, WIAB has always had much less since Ocean took over SG and started the rework, so that's probably not the end of the world to him given it will be on Steam in the next few months itself.
Patreon didn't care as much at one stage either. Just because Steam may be "friendly" now, doesn't mean it will remain so in the future, especially if cc companies/processors choose to apply pressure.
Which can happen to pretty much any business or person at any time. Some things you really have to stop worrying about.
There is also the fact that... mmm how to say it...
Firstly, I see Ocean is clearly passionate about his games, as evidenced by his drive and perseverance over the years, despite obstacles and fan criticisms. If he was forced to stop because third party providers pull the plug, them I expect it to have an negative impact on him. It won't impact me, other than the fact I have a trait called empathy.
Which is in turn pressured by the CC companies and banks. As long as they're making money, PayPal largely doesn't care.
Itch.io said it was PayPal as well, if it was the CC's they sure don't care about SS, and the tons and tons of porn sites.
I vaguely recall cc companies putting pressure on third party processors, such PayPal, over the years, Sadly, it's never-ending.
Agree.In addition, do not forget that Steam may allow this, Patreon can still ban you for a *different* version on Steam. Otherwise, Ocean, like other developers, would not play the game *an unknown person posted some patch here*, but would calmly add on their Discord.
. I'm just sure that if someone decided to create an avn, then he would have been banned for even a tenth part of the GoT plot. One character like Ramsay Bolton would be enough for a ban.
Or the Lannister and Targaryan backgroundAgree.In addition, do not forget that Steam may allow this, Patreon can still ban you for a *different* version on Steam. Otherwise, Ocean, like other developers, would not play the game *an unknown person posted some patch here*, but would calmly add on their Discord.
PS: The funny thing is that Patreon's rules state that fictional plot elements depicting incest and related to a larger work (for example, Game of Thrones) can be allowed
I know, the hypocrisy is astounding and the rules likely only get enforced against the small fish. Add to that the fact that any third party can change their policy at any time. My view is that Ocean, as a business manager, has to assess the risk (of having "unfashionable" plot elements), decide how much risk he's willing to take on, and look mitigate risk where he can to protect his investment.Agree.In addition, do not forget that Steam may allow this, Patreon can still ban you for a *different* version on Steam. Otherwise, Ocean, like other developers, would not play the game *an unknown person posted some patch here*, but would calmly add on their Discord.
PS: The funny thing is that Patreon's rules state that fictional plot elements depicting incest and related to a larger work (for example, Game of Thrones) can be allowed
Risk? What risk? Do you know the game summertime saga? If ocean would have made the amount of money like summertime saga is, he wouldnt have to deal with this problem now. Summertime Saga isnt even hiding the incest and doesnt get bothered by patreon, cause they earn a lot out of it too... WiaB was simply not big enough, someone reported it, and so patreon got rid of it... thats it.
You can still pay at all those sites with CC's. If it was really credit compainies why would they still let you use their cards to pay for porn?
What risk? You answered your own question, Is WIAB as big as SS? No! So, there was/is risk and that's how it played out.
