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sorco2003

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I know what you mean, and i have basicly the same opinion like you. :)

But what really triggers me is the fact that no matter what Ocean would have done with the update/rework, some people wouldn't have cared at all.
The update was too short, too long, the model is no longer to my taste, the story is suddenly different, false information is spread that this release would have been unnecessary because it only contains filler content or it would already be the umpteenth rework and so on.
Ocean is well aware of the content/time ratio and has also said so in the discord itself. The whole thing from duds who you don't see in the thread for months, but come crawling out of their hole after an update, talk everything down and immediately throw around the term milker in an almost inflationary manner. Only to then (fortunately) piss off again until the next update and the game starts all over again...
I had and I have my criticisms, towards the times but more to the communication (this post that you shared seems to me magnificent, but it was not necessary to get to this moment to warn, he even left his health by stress) But I must say that I fully agree with you in the anger that gives people who do not contribute money say that Ocean milks his patreons.
 
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Vopeco

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It's a sad day my friend she is deleted from the game I really like her model because it was very different from generic big tits and huge ass shit I would really love to see that model in blender version.
That's good news for people like me. The first thing I thought when I played it the first time was how can i get this asian chick out of my apartment.
 

lipe2410

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I know right it's going to be hard when I have to dump her for my Main girl

but I can't help it I love bad and Mean Girls they make me feel alive
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I can't do it bro I can't be with a good girl

I will die of boredom

I need to be with a girl that makes me feel like if I make her angry she will fuck me up
I get you, man. I'm the same boat with my baby Katie. But i know that i don't wanna be asshole with Miru. Of course i will break up with her to stay with Katie, but by the time that me and Miru are a couple, i will only give to her my love and respect. I don't wanna my MC cheating Miru. I wanna he love and protect her and then, when he realize that Katie is his true love, he will upfront to Miru and end up the relationship before do anything to Katie. That's the love story i will pursue
 

Voxx221

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new story? really? i was kinda enjoying Katie's(or is it Kate?) route from the last game. i wonder how drastically the characters are changed. is the story entirely rewritten?
She's my favorite character and i loved her route in the original. I'm scared to find out how she's gonna turn out.
 
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UncleFredo

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Where It All Began [Chapter 1 Beta] [Oceanlab] crunched

Original / Compressed Size PC*: 821 MB / 135 MB - WiAB-Ch.1_Beta-pc-crunched.zip
Original / Compressed Size Mac: xxx MB / 100 MB - WiAB-Ch.1_Beta-mac-crunched.zip


Download (PC*/Mac): Workupload - -

(y)L O A D 'n' L I K E - If you L O A D it then L I K E it!(y) If not, like it anyway! (y) Thanks! ;)

This compression is unofficial and untested, use at your own risk.
Compressing process reduces quality and can break the game.

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Tools: UnRen v0.91 (Sam@f95zone) - YAC v3.1c (hngg@f95zone) -
More thanks than I can express!
 
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Joshua Tree

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That's good news for people like me. The first thing I thought when I played it the first time was how can i get this asian chick out of my apartment.
Tbh, I didn't care if she was asian or whatever. I just felt you where already trapped into a relationship from the get go where you might end up later drop her to pursue other li's. Which in turn just make the mc look like a bastard.
 
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Random06776

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Finally played the remake. Ok yeah, now I understand why it took so long. And while I clearly am praising his work for detail. I feel like he either forgot or neglets the 80/20 rule. It's visually fantastic, really, but not efficient nor required.

For those unaware: The Pareto Principle, suggests that 20 percent of your work will account for 80 percent of your results.
This applies to everything: Work, economics and so on, programming and game design included.

To put it in perspective: How much did you (the player) inspect every single detail of every scene in the game? Because I can easily assume each single detail took around months to get it just right like he wanted it to. The average joe will only glance at it for a few seconds and move on.

Except if he wants this game to be his magnum opus to his life because of the amount of time it takes, he better starts cutting corners where necessary real soon because he set the bar WAY too high for such a small developer, there's a good reason why most small indie developers graphics ain't cut of the art compared to a big studio one and even the latter takes months if not years in completing their work just to get those very same details right.

I like the work but I can't say that it will be a healthy project ,unless he changes things because it's simply way too difficult to keep the same amount of quality (especially compared to the pay-off).
 

Orlu

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Wait, so all the times way back when when everyone was wondering why the game didn't update in forever, and the reason given was that it was the entire game being reworked... Only the first chapter got reworked in all that time? Am I missing something here lmao
 

DrakoGhoul

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It's been a long time since i checked up on this game. After i heard about the rework i just decided to patiently wait for him to finish it. Now that it's done, I'll try this again. I'm curious to see what's different about this from the old since i played that one since the start.
 

Hahn1900

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I have to say it... this is really bad news for Summer Gone and WIAB too, cause lets face it... the animations and Renders are maybe the best around, but man that took time to make this release and Summer Gone is in his early stage too... developing both games at the same time will lead to maybe 1 update a year each... for the best...

What i like is that the story of WIAB is rewritten too, cause there were many things in the old game that i didnt like... especially later on.

The quality of this game is in this state is fucking awesome... but be aware, new updates will take a long time and summer gone is in development too (i prefer SG) and thats kinda sad... hopefully iam wrong and there will be maybe 3 updates a year and both games will go on in a good way, but to be honest... i have my doubts.

WIAB had already very much content, now its starting at the beginning again... 3 years in the making gone for now... so i would say, both games wont be done in the next 10 years. Phew... thats a bummer, and 10 years are even optimistic i would say.

I sincerly hope iam wrong and will be very happy to be surprised to get many good updates for both games in a acceptable timespan, but i dont expect that.
 

BubblesTheAllMighty

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Tbh, I didn't care if she was asian or whatever. I just felt you where already trapped into a relationship from the get go where you might end up later drop her to pursue other li's. Which in turn just make the mc look like a bastard.
That pretty much looked like what it was going to be.

It did give you the option to break up with her.

Course i got the feeling you would have had to break up with her if you wanted to go the twincest route, given the twin sister wanted the relationship to be a exclusive one.

Then again i don't know what the dev's end game plan was, if it was going to be a committed to one, or a few or even just straight up harem route pending on the choices you made throughout the game.

I did for the most part like the story flow of the game.
I even liked the dad, seemed pretty chill going further into the game where as originally i thought he was going to be the typical prick character who is purposefully made not to be liked.
Instead i seen it was actually a character who was trustworthy and actually have your back when in a tough spot.
 

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Here's my unofficial android port of Where It All Began Ch3 Full [Patched]
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Kaidman

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I am genuinely enjoying this rework it is a new game and the images are amazing the original is always gonna be a fun game for me but this is quite the better game so far and the creator did all this despite "global issues" and personal problems like weather damage to home
 
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