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I think this SHOULD have been put in an All New Thread and called, 'Where it Really Began'.
i, in No way want to impune Ocean's work. he does very good work. but saying this has all new renders, story edits and other changes pretty much makes it a New game. and should not be 'added' to the old thread thus Clouding the water of opinion.
ALL things in this New update make it a New game. Make the original Abandoned and start a New Page! otherwise the thread will just become a bitch-fest. trolls and fans arguing about content made obsolete.
Please Ocean, don't add Confusion to your work. clean the slate. maybe we will mysteriously forget the old version if we see this on a New Page and New comers will be freer to accept it. and the rest of us can 'move on' :unsure: :geek:
 

lipe2410

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You are right, but that shit annoys me so hard, anyway, here is it:

I am to lazzy to refit the pictures and have removed Oceans dl link to avoid his transfer volume get erodet by non patrons/subscribers


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Thanks for share! Now is clear what happen in the last year. I really wish best things to Ocen and that he had overcome his problems. Hopes for a 2022 with more SG and WiAB updates now with healthier development cycles and more powerfull hardware
 

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You are right, but that shit annoys me so hard, anyway, here is it:

I am to lazzy to refit the pictures and have removed Oceans dl link to avoid his transfer volume get erodet by non patrons/subscribers


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Thank you, this answered my earlier question.

"A render that was rendered and is not totally crap, goes into the game."
This is my mindset when I'm creating things. I used to be a perfectionist and it often kept me from progressing overall, so I tried to start viewing every finished piece as being worthwhile even if I wasn't completely satisfied with the end result.

I'm really looking forward to future releases, keep it up!
 

Cipherdragon

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I think this SHOULD have been put in an All New Thread and called, 'Where it Really Began'.
i, in No way want to impune Ocean's work. he does very good work. but saying this has all new renders, story edits and other changes pretty much makes it a New game. and should not be 'added' to the old thread thus Clouding the water of opinion.
ALL things in this New update make it a New game. Make the original Abandoned and start a New Page! otherwise the thread will just become a bitch-fest. trolls and fans arguing about content made obsolete.
Please Ocean, don't add Confusion to your work. clean the slate. maybe we will mysteriously forget the old version if we see this on a New Page and New comers will be freer to accept it. and the rest of us can 'move on' :unsure: :geek:
+1
 

DigDug69

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ok lets say we play where it all began and we are on a party with miru and every male cheracter just stays in the corner and dont talk to women and all women are jump in MC arms how realistic do you think this sceanrio is? or that you cheat like a pro but as soon as a women is more open or (slutty) she is bad?NTR can 100% make games more realistic and I am sure ocean know how too use it the start of where it all began looks very very proissing cant wait where the futrue will bring me the realationship between mc and miru is so realistic and good:love::love: and rivals will be way much threatening too espacially if it will be dangerous people
My take on adding NTR into games is pretty simple.
Some people like it, and others don't.
I applaud the devs who make it completely avoidable, because it satisfies the highest number of potential players desires for the game.

When NTR is a requirement of the game, it will turn away everyone who just is not interested in it.
Not allowing NTR at all, not even as an option, will likewise turn away the people who like NTR,

The most annoying thing that I have noticed while reading the comments for the different games that I have played, or considered playing. Is that some people get downright arrogant and insistant that the game have the content that "THEY" want, that they know better about what makes a good story and they really do not give a flying monkey (BLEEP) about what anyone else might want.

But then, I can somewhat understand their complaints, because when NTR is not included, a game that looks good to an NTR fan might become one that they won't play or that they will whine about it endlessly in the comments.
And likewise for a no NTR person, because even when NTR is optional, the time creating the NTR content that they will never see, in their minds, could have been used making more content for "THEM".
It comes down to a really selfish desire for the game to be made the way that they want it to be made, and screw what anyone else might want.

For a dev, the smart move is simple, NTR as an option, because the no NTR people will still play the game anyway,, although some might gripe about it being there, anyway.
But if the NTR is forced, they lose money because the no NTR people won't play it.
 
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FlamesOfVengeance

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So it's finally here, huh? I'll definitely check it out soon. Seeing as this is a completely new game now tho, shouldn't the tags get adjusted? I mean I'm sure a lot of these tags won't appear in this initial version so.
 

a1fox3

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So it's finally here, huh? I'll definitely check it out soon. Seeing as this is a completely new game now tho, shouldn't the tags get adjusted? I mean I'm sure a lot of these tags won't appear in this initial version so.
Tags will remain because the old version is still up and can be downloaded and played.

Now dev could put a 2nd "Genre" spoiler for the rework version of just the tags that are in the new VN.
 
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So complete rework, hmm? So they are going to redo it in Summer's Gone fashion? More story, no sexual content? I'm too old to enjoy VNs like that. :D

OceanLab's patreon: WARNING: This game does not contain stupid people or very unrealistic situations.

We'll see about that, but good luck. :D
 
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I think this SHOULD have been put in an All New Thread and called, 'Where it Really Began'.
i, in No way want to impune Ocean's work. he does very good work. but saying this has all new renders, story edits and other changes pretty much makes it a New game. and should not be 'added' to the old thread thus Clouding the water of opinion.
ALL things in this New update make it a New game. Make the original Abandoned and start a New Page! otherwise the thread will just become a bitch-fest. trolls and fans arguing about content made obsolete.
Please Ocean, don't add Confusion to your work. clean the slate. maybe we will mysteriously forget the old version if we see this on a New Page and New comers will be freer to accept it. and the rest of us can 'move on' :unsure: :geek:
I just think ocean needs to ignore the negative comments and focus on the positive onesand that goes for everybody else in this forum

we need to stop responding to the negative comments and laugh and joke like we do in the Summer's Gone forum

don't forget what happened in the intertwined forum

they kept responding to the negative comments and have made it worse and worse until it became very toxic and an unhappy place and the Creator stop going there

so I'm no longer going to argue with people in this forum if I see a negative comment I will ignore it and act like it doesn't exist and I will leave a positive comment

I'm not saying criticism is a bad thing and that people shouldn't criticize

criticism is a good thing

I just want to laugh and joke around like I do in the Summer's Gone forum
 
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