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BobTheDuck

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Thanks for the fast answer. Is WiAB completed storywise?

I like a development like this, so it seems i need to touch WiAB before SG.
As Ocean's developing them together, I'd just play them as they're developed. Also, you'll be waiting way too long to play SG if you wait until WiaB is done. The stories aren't directly sequential as far as we know, so SG isn't a direct continuation of WiaB. But WiaB certainly enriches your understanding of SG.
 

mruggeri2

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Major changes: The only person related to William (MC) is Leia.
Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?

The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.

Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
 

Maviarab

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Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?

The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.
As of Chapter 3 currently: Yes, yes, yes, probably, yes, maybe, yes....whatever....
Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
From 4 onwards (and new dialogue possibly in 1-3), Leai is his twin still....no other familial relations to anyone else. So yes, that will mean exactly what you are now realising :sneaky: :WeSmart:
 

txe320

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Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?

The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.

Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
Yeah, well, I guess he will change it thant MC and Leia are related but adopted by Helen, or some shit like that.

He doesn't care a lot about this game and more about SG since that's where he makes his money.
 

yossa999

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Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?

The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.

Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
Relationships are a bitter thing, bro. They lead to banning of Patreon accounts and loss of all subscribers. That's why there are no relationships in this game. And the fact that there are so many Zanes is just a weird coincidence. Look, in Scotland, half the people are Mackenzies and the other half are Campbells, and should we ban them all for that?

But now that Ocean has decided to make at least two characters related, we have something to work with. For the rest, we'd better ask RNasc4444, he came up with the Adoption Theory, and no one understands it fully except him.

:Kappa:
 

Krytax123

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Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?

The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.

Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
And why the fuck is Ayua a Zane and Katie her Aunt if neither Willy nor Miru are Zane's :ROFLMAO:

Im so curious about the next update and the changes, cant wait for more of the story of William not-Zane and the not-Zane dynasty.

A year ago we discussed if Nika is a Zane, now were discussing if even William is a Zane, were kinda moving backwards :LOL:
 

Miranha157

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Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?

The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.

Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
If he's going to change the narrative, he'll have to change a lot of the dialogue from chapters 1 - 3, and like if Ayua herself in SG mentions that Kátie Zane is her aunt, then William is a Zane, about Leia in the club Nojiko's friend comments on the Zanes I don't remember the dialogue well but it was like "wow it's been a while since a Zane appeared" she also mentions Leia, so even up until S1 of SG and Chapter 3 of WIAB they are relatives/siblings, you choose. For me changing the narrative or not I'll play knowing that they are Zanes, siblings, father and mother and whatever else they have to do with kinship.
 

TheDuke9999

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the only issue with ocean's VN's SG and WIAB is as the stories develop there are so many routes and LI's now in both games that we will be lucky to get an update a year if that. its 8 VN's in one for both VN's . but it will take so long between each update that i wonder how long it will be before its too much to develop and burn out develops
 

Miranha157

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I looked at all the devs 1 - 21, Ocean really likes Katie, it's strange that he didn't do a preview of Daphne(he did a candy), Donna, Gina, Monica or Dylan. But he did this Japanese girl with Emilio, I'm curious why her and not any other.

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I looked at all the devs 1 - 21, Ocean really likes Katie, it's strange that he didn't do a preview of Daphne(he did a candy), Donna, Gina, Monica or Dylan. But he did this Japanese girl with Emilio, I'm curious why her and not any other.

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It's possible that Daphne isn't in the update. She's in w/e city Willi/Miru were living in and we probably won't see her till they find a place & go back to get their stuff.
 
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