xCalon
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Wait, what? That doesn't add up. It was confirmed by Abigail that Helen is Leia's mother, so if MC is related to Leia, doesn't that automatically mean he is also related to Helen, Dylan and Katie?
The relationships are so damn weird after the rework. Like, is William a Zane or not? Because if he is, then it makes no sense to change it, if he isn't, then it doesn't even fit the narrative cause his relationship with Leia wouldn't cause all that mess. Is Helen is mother or not? Because it doesn't really seem that way in the game, but if she isn't, then it wouldn't make sense for William to be this close to the family or his parting causing this much pain to them.
Is he like a childhood friend of Leia who got adopted into the family or is he still Leia's twin brother? Seriously, I understand Ocean was forced to do this because patreon change of rules, but the relationships in the game are so vague that it's quite frustrating.
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As of Chapter 3 currently: Yes, yes, yes, probably, yes, maybe, yes....whatever....
From 4 onwards (and new dialogue possibly in 1-3), Leai is his twin still....no other familial relations to anyone else. So yes, that will mean exactly what you are now realising
txe320
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Yeah, well, I guess he will change it thant MC and Leia are related but adopted by Helen, or some shit like that.
He doesn't care a lot about this game and more about SG since that's where he makes his money.
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Relationships are a bitter thing, bro. They lead to banning of Patreon accounts and loss of all subscribers. That's why there are no relationships in this game. And the fact that there are so many Zanes is just a weird coincidence. Look, in Scotland, half the people are Mackenzies and the other half are Campbells, and should we ban them all for that?
But now that Ocean has decided to make at least two characters related, we have something to work with. For the rest, we'd better ask RNasc4444, he came up with the Adoption Theory, and no one understands it fully except him.
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And why the fuck is Ayua a Zane and Katie her Aunt if neither Willy nor Miru are Zane's
Im so curious about the next update and the changes, cant wait for more of the story of William not-Zane and the not-Zane dynasty.
A year ago we discussed if Nika is a Zane, now were discussing if even William is a Zane, were kinda moving backwards
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If he's going to change the narrative, he'll have to change a lot of the dialogue from chapters 1 - 3, and like if Ayua herself in SG mentions that Kátie Zane is her aunt, then William is a Zane, about Leia in the club Nojiko's friend comments on the Zanes I don't remember the dialogue well but it was like "wow it's been a while since a Zane appeared" she also mentions Leia, so even up until S1 of SG and Chapter 3 of WIAB they are relatives/siblings, you choose. For me changing the narrative or not I'll play knowing that they are Zanes, siblings, father and mother and whatever else they have to do with kinship.
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I think we can all agree that its all inzane.
All Wollust inhabitants are descendants of Adam and Eve. Screw you Patreon.
rudy007
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Yeah, and Gefritzel was there too... And an apple...
TheDuke9999
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the only issue with ocean's VN's SG and WIAB is as the stories develop there are so many routes and LI's now in both games that we will be lucky to get an update a year if that. its 8 VN's in one for both VN's . but it will take so long between each update that i wonder how long it will be before its too much to develop and burn out develops
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It's possible that Daphne isn't in the update. She's in w/e city Willi/Miru were living in and we probably won't see her till they find a place & go back to get their stuff.
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Maybe, but Miru went on a trip, didn't she? From what I remember, she needed to resolve something in the city... Maybe Daphne decides to visit William to try to change his mind. I wanted to know more about her and how they met because she seems to be a fundamental piece of William's past, just like Miru was.
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And why the fuck is Ayua a Zane and Katie her Aunt if neither Willy nor Miru are Zane's
Im so curious about the next update and the changes, cant wait for more of the story of William not-Zane and the not-Zane dynasty.
A year ago we discussed if Nika is a Zane, now were discussing if even William is a Zane, were kinda moving backwards
So... because this 'change' (that was also changed and redacted, true to form) happened after Ch3, instead of just adoption, roommates, landlords and friends we have that other required
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Jokes aside, if it pulls together as a great story, it really doesn't matter to me. After all, can anyone explain to me how the old WiaB plot was consistently brilliant and made sense? At very least, we'll have a more cohesive plot that the original. The NTR and roommates aspects were features more than direct plot devices - they happened while Willi was trying to find out what happened to Helen. Willi's doing more to find out what has been going on in this new version than the old. In my mind, the plot has become more central, rather than a skeleton in the closet to hang all the juicy fetishes on.
About the possible change, we won't know how deep the change goes until we see the update, and what it does to ch 1-3. I suspect the reason for less precise render numbers is Ocean is not telling us how he's implementing the change which might include reworking renders, Ocean being Ocean. I am fully prepared to play from the start and mentally forget all I can and treat it like day 1 ...again. If it's stronger for it, then all worked out well.
My head canon and expectations are the least important part of Ocean's development. He can mess with me as long as it keeps improving in some way. It's the subs' expectations that Ocean should take into consideration.
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For me he could stick NTR where the sun doesn't shine, but I still want to try those big breasts of Leia and Helen, let's not forget Dana kkkkkkk
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Oh forgot to mention, I suspect that Leia gets Emilio to use Riri as a trap for William, maybe to try and get him to cheat on Miru, low light, mistaken identity vibes. Or maybe that's how Ocean brings in Miru's relatives and their potential plot line. Miru means something like 'beautiful/pretty view' from what I can google, while Riri might mean 'sound' or 'lily' or 'jasmine' (the flowers). But if we have sight and sound, that would be a really cool connection. Katie does say "Miru is very pretty." when talking about modelling with Kat at breakfast, so that kinda suggests Ocean does think of the meanings - but there's too many potential meanings to be certain, and google's never a great test of truth.
I think it's pertinent that Zoey remarks about how rare blue eyed asians are (and Scarlet notes Miru's eyes as well), and suddenly we have a second.