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You right : she's even more beautiful than before
People calling her fat never saw a fat human before.
You right : she's even more beautiful than before
I was in fact referring to the mounthiversary, true is not explicit, but I had said that the implication is that is a celebration of one mounth of whatever it was they had.Well..in Leia's obsessed and yandere mind they had a monthiversary...lol.
Not entirely sure Willi had one...but Leia definitely didCode:l "You know what's in two days?" scene wa34 with dssa d "Meatball Friday?" scene wa20 with dssr l "No! Idiot!" l "Our first monthiversary." d "That's not a thing." scene wa21 with dssr l "It's now."
Given what she is like...who knows what that actually could have been for...
No, what you said was 'we know they had a relationship'.....I was in fact referring to the mounthiversary, true is not explicit, but I had said that the implication is that is a celebration of one mounth of whatever it was they had.
But your point about, Leia did but William was kinda whatever is my point. Whatever they had when they are younger, Leia was way more invested in it than him and this imbalance explain much of her behavior not only then but now also.
I was in fact referring to the mounthiversary, true is not explicit, but I had said that the implication is that is a celebration of one mounth of whatever it was they had.
But your point about, Leia did but William was kinda whatever is my point. Whatever they had when they are younger, Leia was way more invested in it than him and this imbalance explain much of her behavior not only then but now also.
We don't know that the flashback wasn't right before Willi left. The tree he carved (presumably) the heart from to make a gift when he was young (his 'something that came from the heart') was one of the first things he looked at when he got back. He then carves another heart to remind Leia of the first carved heart, maybe the chance to rewind the clock to when things were innocent.No, what you said was 'we know they had a relationship'.....
We don't know that at all. Not in the rework at least.
In that flashback though, he's ridiculously immature which suggests they're younger. I can't imagine he'd say "I'd like the new Monster Basher Brutal 3000 for console!" after being able to creampie Mon. Pretty sure he wouldn't be talking like that.
If you'd read the user post I was commenting on you'd understand why I think she's a hypocrite if she's not a virgin. Here it is:I don't really see how she can be hypocrite in either scenario, the first you already made a great point. the second, William left with out saying goodbye and with out much of a reason, I don't see how would be hypocritical of her to had sex or casual relationship with other mens int he years that William was away. I don't think that she needs to be or not a virgin, this depends on what direction Ocean wants her character to go, but it certainly does not make her a hypocrite.
Her virginity may not be important to you, but in my opinion if she slept with someone while just being obsessed with our protagonist it does not fit her character. Take Dana (the old version) for example. She was interested in the protagonist but after she received a rejection (false) and our protagonist ran away, she continued to live her life and at the time of their reunion she already has a boyfriend. There is nothing contradictory here and in her case as in the case of any other character who was acquainted with our protagonist I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that they continued to live their lives after his escape and had a relationship. Leia, however, is a special case.I had a thought about this. Leia is characterised by jealousy when it comes to Willi; I wonder how far her hypocrisy goes? If she kept herself a virgin, she's a hypocrite for saying that Katie couldn't seduce anyone, and doubly so for the way she pimps out her employees. If she's not, then her treatment of Willi's disappearance is hypocrisy because she has also abandoned him. She can't keep accussing him of having left if she'd moved on, and if she hasn't moved on, well Katie's had more recent relationships than Leia, especially considering she'd bi. I think this is why I dislike her - Leia has a massive double standard either way in order to defend her version of the story, so she can be the victim and the only right person. Willi does admit he did wrong on many occasions and is trying to grow, so I'm much more sympathetic to a jerk trying to reform himself than someone who gets people to call her princess.
I think it's likely she's a virgin, because of her obsession going that deep. She's called a princess for a reason, not a queen (although maybe just the Princess Leia thing for the buns... or is it puns?If you'd read the user post I was commenting on you'd understand why I think she's a hypocrite if she's not a virgin. Here it is:
Her virginity may not be important to you, but in my opinion if she slept with someone while just being obsessed with our protagonist it does not fit her character. Take Dana (the old version) for example. She was interested in the protagonist but after she received a rejection (false) and our protagonist ran away, she continued to live her life and at the time of their reunion she already has a boyfriend. There is nothing contradictory here and in her case as in the case of any other character who was acquainted with our protagonist I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that they continued to live their lives after his escape and had a relationship. Leia, however, is a special case.
although maybe just the Princess Leia thing for the buns... or is it puns?
And also tells one of them, don't say Willi hot in front of her. The girl dun got issues.At this point it doesn't really matter, her actions and treatment of the people around her show she is reprehensible. THe girls are told not to make eye contact by Emilio - it's not only Willi she treats like shit.
Damn right we will Bob. She'll be on her knees in front of us begging forgiveness quicker than you....wait...what are we talking about again?I'm sure we'll find out when we hear what she and Willi talk about from his visit to her house.
Huh, just realised - Emilio spills the beans about Leia and Willi to the girls by saying that. Considering the rumours were going around for Dana to mention what people said after Willi left, it kinda even more strongly suggests it's a reaaly badly kept secret, as opposed to the secret Katie DID keep.![]()
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And also tells one of them, don't say Willi hot in front of her. The girl dun got issues.
Damn right we will Bob. She'll be on her knees in front of us begging forgiveness quicker than you....wait...what are we talking about again?
Don't worry...we'll thaw out that cold, dark, black heart
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I agree that the flashback of the chapter 3 makes more sense if it happened after the incident with Monica and given the timeline William should be 15/16 years old, the commentary does come as immature, but this may be the point, he did not see their thing as serous or not as serous as she did. My point is that much of the worst traits of Leia, that she definitely has, are/was amplified by William and vice verse.We don't know that the flashback wasn't right before Willi left. The tree he carved (presumably) the heart from to make a gift when he was young (his 'something that came from the heart') was one of the first things he looked at when he got back. He then carves another heart to remind Leia of the first carved heart, maybe the chance to rewind the clock to when things were innocent.
I wouldn't expect the monthiversary happened before he was going out with Mon; that would mean they had the innocent thing, thenhe broke up with Leia to go after Mon, then left Mon on the table because he knew he wanted Leia. Much too complicated a back story. So if the Monthiversary is after he's broken up with Mon, it's right before he leaves presumably.
In that flashback though, he's ridiculously immature which suggests they're younger. I can't imagine he'd say "I'd like the new Monster Basher Brutal 3000 for console!" after being able to creampie Mon. Pretty sure he wouldn't be talking like that.
So it's all purposefully vague and uncertain, other than it meant way more to Leia then it did to Willi then.
I did read it, I just don't quite see the things as you do and was trying to give a different perspective. The bit of not fitting her character that's depends in what direction Oceans wants her to go, old Leia I tend to agree more with you, with her altar to the MC, this version, I at least don know, so far I think either way could make sense.If you'd read the user post I was commenting on you'd understand why I think she's a hypocrite if she's not a virgin. Here it is:
Her virginity may not be important to you, but in my opinion if she slept with someone while just being obsessed with our protagonist it does not fit her character. Take Dana (the old version) for example. She was interested in the protagonist but after she received a rejection (false) and our protagonist ran away, she continued to live her life and at the time of their reunion she already has a boyfriend. There is nothing contradictory here and in her case as in the case of any other character who was acquainted with our protagonist I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that they continued to live their lives after his escape and had a relationship. Leia, however, is a special case.
Yeah, judging by the stories about the past, everyone knew about their relationship. However, it was William who was the restraining factor at school. And when William disappeared, everyone attacked Leia, because they considered her an easy target without William.Huh, just realised - Emilio spills the beans about Leia and Willi to the girls by saying that. Considering the rumours were going around for Dana to mention what people said after Willi left, it kinda even more strongly suggests it's a reaaly badly kept secret, as opposed to the secret Katie DID keep.![]()
Regards the altar, I'm pretty sure she'll have something equivalent. The depth of her resentment is only because of the depth of her emotion for him, he only triggers her because she cares. It's the same with Katie. They've both missed him terribly and they both want him to make the effort to charm their resentment away and fix things. Whether he can really depends on the choices we make, and potentially, who they want us to hurt to prove our loyalty (in Leia's case I'm guessing there will be some kind of thorn buried in any level of forgiveness).I agree that the flashback of the chapter 3 makes more sense if it happened after the incident with Monica and given the timeline William should be 15/16 years old, the commentary does come as immature, but this may be the point, he did not see their thing as serous or not as serous as she did. My point is that much of the worst traits of Leia, that she definitely has, are/was amplified by William and vice verse.
I did read it, I just don't quite see the things as you do and was trying to give a different perspective. The bit of not fitting her character that's depends in what direction Oceans wants her to go, old Leia I tend to agree more with you, with her altar to the MC, this version, I at least don know, so far I think either way could make sense.
Agree with that...let's hope she opens up and we can start fixing things...give Miru another LI to hateLeia's home is a sanctum that she keeps seperate from the rest of the family, inviting him there where she is vulnerable, well, I think the next chapter will start with a lot of revelations
Poor Katie...she needs all the love.It's the same with Katie. They've both missed him terribly
Love and preggo bellies from me.Poor Katie...she needs all the love.
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I agree, only mentioned the altar cause was one thing that freak me out a little bit in the old version and don't know if i want that in this version, but we will see.Regards the altar, I'm pretty sure she'll have something equivalent. The depth of her resentment is only because of the depth of her emotion for him, he only triggers her because she cares. It's the same with Katie. They've both missed him terribly and they both want him to make the effort to charm their resentment away and fix things. Whether he can really depends on the choices we make, and potentially, who they want us to hurt to prove our loyalty (in Leia's case I'm guessing there will be some kind of thorn buried in any level of forgiveness).
Leia's home is a sanctum that she keeps seperate from the rest of the family, inviting him there where she is vulnerable, well, I think the next chapter will start with a lot of revelations ...or at least clearer insinuations ....because snakes like insinuations![]()
Hahaha....she comin' for ya LHD...she be a comin' for ya....I agree, only mentioned the altar cause was one thing that freak me out a little bit in the old version and don't know if i want that in this version, but we will see.
Both are bloody gorgeous