This and summer's gone is a 20 year development cycle game. I wonder how many graphical iterations this will undergo in the future.
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yossa999
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Yes, it's just amazing, I know! The developer has prepared our favorite content for 20 years ahead! And every year the graphics will get better and better. And when he finally masters Blender and starts making awesome animations in it! Mmmm...
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This is the wayYes, it's just amazing, I know! The developer has prepared our favorite content for 20 years ahead! And every year the graphics will get better and better. And when he finally masters Blender and starts making awesome animations in it! Mmmm...
Also, I think it's worth considering that once something has a full release on normal commercial platforms (like season 1 from SG on steam imminently) it's really hard to take it back. Sure you can update, but you'll never make a first impression again, review wise, and steam players will be needing a quicker development cycle than patrons to keep engaged. I expect that Ocean will grow and develop, because it's boring to stay the same, and he'll have to keep up with the pace that steam will set for him. He'll improve and so will the games.
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And your point exactly?
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think she looks far better.The Point that she got Fatso and more Ugly compared to the Old Version.
That's not discounting the actual story reasons for it. I'm sure you can whip her back into shape at some point if people really think she that awful now.
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You'll just have to wake up at 4am and get her to the gym! That covers the fitness simulator portion of the programme so Ocean can show off his crazy plan of a morphing model. Also, now she can appeal to two groups of people, two LI paths for the price of one!
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Even if she is rich, she is so unpretentious in this version, I really like the way Ocean's developed her personality. The previous one, she seemed out of place on the camping trip.
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and yes, in the previous version everything seemed out of place because Ocean was doing what he wanted, even broke the story several times just to try (and the last time to move to the rework).
And this eliminated the story of Emily, who is coming back but with the background that William and Leia bullied her for being fat (or something like that I had read in discord).
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I don't really see how she can be hypocrite in either scenario, the first you already made a great point. the second, William left with out saying goodbye and with out much of a reason, I don't see how would be hypocritical of her to had sex or casual relationship with other mens int he years that William was away. I don't think that she needs to be or not a virgin, this depends on what direction Ocean wants her character to go, but it certainly does not make her a hypocrite.
Regarding Leia's behavior, I think that's a lot to unpack there and we certainly does not have enough information to do so.
But the fun is trying to understanding. I think that is valuable exercise to trying to understand how much of Leia's behavior is a response to William's. It is difficult to understand the timeline, but we know that at some point William and Leia had a relationship and we also know that young William was not the best William.
I don't believe that William gave Leia the kind of securance that he now gives Miru, that combine with the jealousy nature of Leia created many problems for them. So William had girls trowing themselves at him and Leia had no confidence in him that he could resist, so she in turn was hostile to anyone that showed interest in him.
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No...we don't...we assume they did 'something'....or that something happened...
BobTheDuck
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Well, they had a monthiverasry of going out, but we don't know if they had a physical relationship. The way Katie mentioned him trying to get under Leia's skirts implies he didn't manage. Most likely Katie wouldn't be trying to tease him about it if it had happened.
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Well..in Leia's obsessed and yandere mind they had a monthiversary...lol.
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l "You know what's in two days?"
scene wa34 with dssa
d "Meatball Friday?"
scene wa20 with dssr
l "No! Idiot!"
l "Our first monthiversary."
d "That's not a thing."
scene wa21 with dssr
l "It's now."
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You right : she's even more beautiful than before
People calling her fat never saw a fat human before.
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I was in fact referring to the mounthiversary, true is not explicit, but I had said that the implication is that is a celebration of one mounth of whatever it was they had.Well..in Leia's obsessed and yandere mind they had a monthiversary...lol.
Not entirely sure Willi had one...but Leia definitely didCode:l "You know what's in two days?" scene wa34 with dssa d "Meatball Friday?" scene wa20 with dssr l "No! Idiot!" l "Our first monthiversary." d "That's not a thing." scene wa21 with dssr l "It's now."
But your point about, Leia did but William was kinda whatever is my point. Whatever they had when they are younger, Leia was way more invested in it than him and this imbalance explain much of her behavior not only then but now also.
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No, what you said was 'we know they had a relationship'.....
We don't know that at all. Not in the rework at least.
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We don't know that the flashback wasn't right before Willi left. The tree he carved (presumably) the heart from to make a gift when he was young (his 'something that came from the heart') was one of the first things he looked at when he got back. He then carves another heart to remind Leia of the first carved heart, maybe the chance to rewind the clock to when things were innocent.
I wouldn't expect the monthiversary happened before he was going out with Mon; that would mean they had the innocent thing, thenhe broke up with Leia to go after Mon, then left Mon on the table because he knew he wanted Leia. Much too complicated a back story. So if the Monthiversary is after he's broken up with Mon, it's right before he leaves presumably.
In that flashback though, he's ridiculously immature which suggests they're younger. I can't imagine he'd say "I'd like the new Monster Basher Brutal 3000 for console!" after being able to creampie Mon. Pretty sure he wouldn't be talking like that.
So it's all purposefully vague and uncertain, other than it meant way more to Leia then it did to Willi then.