In the scene where the feds illustrate the Zane family it is said that she went to visit him. And if you choose to reveal to Helen that Willy spoke about her with Leia it is made explicit that the last meeting between them (the prison) Helen ended with harsh words towards William
There's a lot of bipolarity in this new chapter.
OK after reading the thread I saw the general conception of this update and I wanna say, I also didn't like the family relations getting changed and I still don't but.. actually there is no but. We are much far into the development process for this kind of change happening. Not that the game story progressed that much but it's been like what? Almost 7 years since this game originally released?
d "Leia."
mi "If I remember correctly, she was your sister?"
d "No. We grew up in the same household, but we're not related."
d "At one point we had a bond I'd describe as much closer than family."Yep. Or maybe she saved him because the condition of him staying alive was that he serve his time in prison as punishment. Maybe he was framed because that was the punishment the Families had arranged? Maybe Helen's visit was a guarantee that he understood the conditions and agreed to them and there was nothing she could do for him?
mi "It sounds dangerous. What if they don't exile you and instead go for a more permanent solution?"
d "Nah, as much pain as I caused everyone here... They love me, and I don't think they can afford to lose Leia."So before Dylan was a mechanic and Helen was a housewife right? And who was uncle Joe? Did Joe and Dylan have some common business? Who was Leia before? Why do I have a feeling that plothole, that was before is patched now.
The funny thing is, he already felt the repercussions from Patreon. WiaB was removed and will likely never be published there again. The only issue WiaB could cause is if we find out Nika is related to William (which Ocean has confirmed he isn't) and starts banging his half siblings in SG, nuking that from Patreon too.
Yep, but it works only after the furry patch, or F-patch as we call it.
I think you're being too forgiving and cavalier about this. His departure and return are basically what kickstarts the story. It has to be ironclad. His motives have to be clear and powerful. This is just the first of several hurdles I can't get through with this new version.
Did you even play the game? William was always Helen's favorite, even after Katie was born. She had harsh words with him because he ran away, and the next she hears, a couple of years later, was when he was in jail. She has a bad temper. It would even be justified in that case, wouldn't it? That doesn't mean she doesn't care about him. WTF?
Let's not forget, William is now worried about potential exile by the Families, more so than death.I think you're being too forgiving and cavalier about this. His departure and return are basically what kickstarts the story. It has to be ironclad. His motives have to be clear and powerful. This is just the first of several hurdles I can't get through with this new version.
You know how I felt about the previous version. I could easily buy William leaving (taboo, shame) but never the reason he came back. It wasn't strong enough for him to leave what he had behind and face the demons of the past. And this is when they were family. When he had a certain degree of duty and responsibility to his own blood. Imagine how I feel about it now. I can't even buy the reason he left, let alone the reason he'd go back to the non relative low life degenerate criminals that were involved in his family's death and raised him as an asset to be leveraged.
Why would you ever leave behind a life of freedom, peace and happiness to return to that awful world? Like how retarded do you have to be to make that choice? I'm stuck at this point. And if I can't go along with this how am I supposed to go along with everything that follows? It's not good enough for me. I have higher standards for what constitutes a reasonable story
Maybe at some point someone here can spin a theory or take that makes this more palatable for me to digest but this was one of my hangs ups with the previous version that wasn't fixed in this one.
Don't pout, you still have SG and... a few more threads for constructive criticism.I think you're being too forgiving and cavalier about this. His departure and return are basically what kickstarts the story. It has to be ironclad. His motives have to be clear and powerful. This is just the first of several hurdles I can't get through with this new version.
You know how I felt about the previous version. I could easily buy William leaving (taboo, shame) but never the reason he came back. It wasn't strong enough for him to leave what he had behind and face the demons of the past. And this is when they were family. When he had a certain degree of duty and responsibility to his own blood. Imagine how I feel about it now. I can't even buy the reason he left, let alone the reason he'd go back to the non relative low life degenerate criminals that were involved in his family's death and raised him as an asset to be leveraged.
Why would you ever leave behind a life of freedom, peace and happiness to return to that awful world? Like how retarded do you have to be to make that choice? I'm stuck at this point. And if I can't go along with this how am I supposed to go along with everything that follows? It's not good enough for me. I have higher standards for what constitutes a reasonable story
Maybe at some point someone here can spin a theory or take that makes this more palatable for me to digest but this was one of my hangs ups with the previous version that wasn't fixed in this one.
Actually, he was arrested a month after he left, just as he was about to return, he was framed. Don't know where you got a couple of years from.
I don't know, I though he was dating the crazy chick that set him up for a while. The high blood pressure from reading all this crazy shit this thread has become is blocking my memories.
He tells Leia it was a month after he left, so Helen knew he was in prison and she only visited him once in two years.
Could be protecting him, too, though. They're being watched. And she's still pissed.
Could also be shoddy writing because more time is being spent retconning, than keeping the characters consistent.
