VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[X2JZcf]

I just wanna to understand when the fuck this kiss happened and how fuck it up it is. Cause 14 16 is bad but 10- 16 is really bad.

YAY. William's fear is justified.

 

[LHDLLB]

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Ultimately, the important thing is that we love our Zanes:
Dylan, William, Katie...
*checks notes on hand* Pimp and Moby-Dick



I think we've established as the only certainty that William only gets turned on by women he "couldn't" have. He kissed Katie because they told him he couldn't, after having sex with Monica he realized he would prefer Leia because they told him he couldn't, he probably got together with Miru because she told him she had a boyfriend and they couldn't be together.

I do love the Pimp - italian name that I don't know- Zane.

And kinda yes. At least it plays the NTR aspects of it

 

[jadepaladin]

I think we've established as the only certainty that William only gets turned on by women he "couldn't" have. He kissed Katie because they told him he couldn't, after having sex with Monica he realized he would prefer Leia because they told him he couldn't, he probably got together with Miru because she told him she had a boyfriend and they couldn't be together.

All the possible Netori situations (Mon, Gina, Dana) fit into this as well.

 

[Maccabbee]

All the possible Netori situations (Mon, Gina, Dana) fit into this as well.

Gina is the only one he hasn't at least fooled around with. The closest Dana had to sex was Will grinding her when they got busted by her parents. Heck, that's probably the only reason they didn't become a couple. The game never would have happened.

 

[jadepaladin]

Gina is the only one he hasn't at least fooled around with. The closest Dana had to sex was Will grinding her when they got busted by her parents. Heck, that's probably the only reason they didn't become a couple. The game never would have happened.

Somehow I hit my reaction limit, no idea how.

Yup, I was tying it in to the idea that Will only wants women that he "can't" have.

Leia-nope. Cement blocks, fishies, exile, whatever Geppetto has planned.
Katie-nope. same as Leia
Helen-nope.
Miru- basically the only exception
Kat- I fucking wish and I swear if Will tells her to put her tits away one more time...
Zoey- off limits thanks to Katie
Dana- has a bf
Gina- has a bf
Mon- has a bf

I'm not including Taylor, the college girls, etc yet. The college girls are basically like the book club in SG, untapped potential.

 

[John972]

You guys keep assuming Katie is 18 at most. She could be older. She doesn't strike me as a first year in College. Also even as kids she didn't seem more like 3 or 4 years younger than Willi and Leia. I'm guessing in the 20-21 range. Even the way she talks about her passion for fashion and her future kinda supports the idea that she might be near senior year of College, no?

Agreed. Think back to the Willi/Leia wrestling flashback (and other flashbacks), when Willi/Leia were 10 or 12 or so. Did Katie look like a three-year-old (i.e. Will 25 and Katie 18 then 7 year ago difference)?

 

[Maccabbee]

Somehow I hit my reaction limit, no idea how.

Yup, I was tying it in to the idea that Will only wants women that he "can't" have.

Leia-nope. Cement blocks, fishies, exile, whatever Geppetto has planned.
Katie-nope. same as Leia
Helen-nope.
Miru- basically the only exception
Kat- I fucking wish and I swear if Will tells her to put her tits away one more time...
Zoey- off limits thanks to Katie
Dana- has a bf
Gina- has a bf
Mon- has a bf

I'm not including Taylor, the college girls, etc yet. The college girls are basically like the book club in SG, untapped potential.

Well, seeing how Will's relationship with Miru has been going on for over 5 years, and they're only just talking about it being open, all other women are equally off-limits. That must explain why he seems to want ALL OF THEM.

Yeah, I am also out of reactions.

 

[jadepaladin]

Well, seeing how Will's relationship with Miru has been going on for over 5 years, and they're only just talking about it being open, all other women are equally off-limits. That must explain why he seems to want ALL OF THEM.

Yeah, I am also out of reactions.

I wonder how Will managed to keep her libido in check for 5 years without bringing up swinging/open relationship type ideas. You'd think if he smashes her as often as they say they do, he'd be in check and not trying to bend 90% of the main cast over tables.

 

[John972]

So 96 positive reviews on steam, 12 negative. Seems the people buying the game enjoy it more. Because correlation equals causation, right? Not suggesting the reaction here is right or wrong, but it is an echo chamber of it's own weird kind.

That's something I've been thinking here since the game was released, no for any game good/bad reasons.

Most of us here are tainted because we can only ever judge the update against what came before (in some cases going right back to the original WIAB Ch 6).

I read some of the Steam reviews, but, ironically, find the depth of debate on F95 can exceed that on Steam and certainly on Discord.

What I would give for some honest reviews from:

1. WIAB virgins, seasoned AVN/VN players who are experiencing WIAB for the first time.
2. Players who are fluent in both the German and English languages, who can provide feedback on the German and Genglish versions of the game, i.e. is there anything lost in translation in the English version.

 

[Maccabbee]

I wonder how Will managed to keep her libido in check for 5 years without bringing up swinging/open relationship type ideas. You'd think if he smashes her as often as they say they do, he'd be in check and not trying to bend 90% of the main cast over tables.

They weren't completely open, but there was conversation about Miru giving permission for anyone except Daphne (that poor girl). Not sure if that was just if they decided to go open, or before that.

To be fair, Miru keeps him too busy with her, with her crazy libido. She should be just as sore as he is, friction don't care about lubrication, after a while. Pretty sure body fluids are mildly acidic.

 

[John972]

Somehow I hit my reaction limit, no idea how.

Yup, I was tying it in to the idea that Will only wants women that he "can't" have.

Leia-nope. Cement blocks, fishies, exile, whatever Geppetto has planned.
Katie-nope. same as Leia
Helen-nope.
Miru- basically the only exception
Kat- I fucking wish and I swear if Will tells her to put her tits away one more time...
Zoey- off limits thanks to Katie
Dana- has a bf
Gina- has a bf
Mon- has a bf

I'm not including Taylor, the college girls, etc yet. The college girls are basically like the book club in SG, untapped potential.

Great take, or though you're missing Gefritzel, who's rumored to give great head. They're off limits because... well, just because.

 

[Maccabbee]

Great take, or though you're missing Gefritzel, who's rumored to give great head. They're off limits because... well, just because.

Mostly because Miru, and she can kick everyone's asses all at once, apparently. The Leia breakfast beatdown scene never gets old.

 

[RNasc4444]

Can't wait to get a graph of the timeline in WiaB.

Oh, is that also the map of Wollust??? It's got two lakes for sure!

Ultimately, the important thing is that we love our Zanes:
Dylan, William, Katie...
*checks notes on hand* Pimp and Moby-Dick

Somehow I hit my reaction limit, no idea how.

Had never reached my limit on any account and I've been around since 2019. Suddenly this fucking game update drops and I'm running out of reactions every single day since. Not gonna lie...this shit is kinda infuriating

I haven't been this upset since they "retired" the facepalm reaction.

Agreed. Think back to the Willi/Leia wrestling flashback (and other flashbacks), when Willi/Leia were 10 or 12 or so. Did Katie look like a three-year-old (i.e. Will 25 and Katie 18 then 7 year ago difference)?

No shot, yeah! Their age gap can't be higher than 3 or 4.

 

[jadepaladin]

Great take, or though you're missing Gefritzel, who's rumored to give great head. They're off limits because... well, just because.

Great point. Not sure why I left him out, I love that snake. I'm hoping for eventual Katie/Gefritzel comedy.

Mostly because Miru, and she can kick everyone's asses all at once, apparently. The Leia breakfast beatdown scene never gets old.

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[Maccabbee]

Great point. Not sure why I left him out, I love that snake. I'm hoping for eventual Katie/Gefritzel comedy.

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The only pity I had in that scene was for Katie's prototype clothes.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I wonder how Will managed to keep her libido in check for 5 years without bringing up swinging/open relationship type ideas. You'd think if he smashes her as often as they say they do, he'd be in check and not trying to bend 90% of the main cast over tables.

They weren't completely open, but there was conversation about Miru giving permission for anyone except Daphne (that poor girl). Not sure if that was just if they decided to go open, or before that.

To be fair, Miru keeps him too busy with her, with her crazy libido. She should be just as sore as he is, friction don't care about lubrication, after a while. Pretty sure body fluids are mildly acidic.

Maybe it's a regular thing, like every 2 weeks for 5 years William proposes to open up their relationship

 

[LHDLLB]

Agreed. Think back to the Willi/Leia wrestling flashback (and other flashbacks), when Willi/Leia were 10 or 12 or so. Did Katie look like a three-year-old (i.e. Will 25 and Katie 18 then 7 year ago difference)?

I mean... is not that I disagree. Is that we can't be fucking sure of the characters age. While yeah, the renders does kinda make feel their gap is a lot shorter, is not the information we got from the characters. So Maybe William is yonguer or Katie is older or the renders are not exactly precise. The problem is that we have almost nothing that is solid, not even how old some of the people are.

That's something I've been thinking here since the game was released, no for any game good/bad reasons.

Most of us here are tainted because we can only ever judge the update against what came before (in some cases going right back to the original WIAB Ch 6).

I read some of the Steam reviews, but, ironically, find the depth of debate on F95 can exceed that on Steam and certainly on Discord.

What I would give for some honest reviews from:

1. WIAB virgins, seasoned AVN/VN players who are experiencing WIAB for the first time.
2. Players who are fluent in both the German and English languages, who can provide feedback on the German and Genglish versions of the game, i.e. is there anything lost in translation in the English version.

Yeah, for a pirate site of porn games I was always surprised to the deepth of the conversation here. And yeah, we have a very collored view of the game for better and worse.

 

[John972]

No shot, yeah! Their age gap can't be higher than 3 or 4.

Which, by implication, would mean Willi and Leia became wards of the Zanes when they were around three or four max (i.e. before Katie was born, as stated implicitly in the story)

 

[Maccabbee]

Which, by implication, would mean Willi and Leia became wards of the Zanes when they were around three or four max (i.e. before Katie was born, as stated implicitly in the story)

I HATE THIS CONSTANT POPUP, damn you all!!!

 

[John972]

Great point. Not sure why I left him out, I love that snake. I'm hoping for eventual Katie/Gefritzel comedy.

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Well, Miru does stake her claim on her man somewhat jealously. She did threaten to skin Gefritzel in the latest update.

Katie/Gefritzel? I'd buy that for a dollar! I can visualize this scene where arch manipulator Katie brings out a pungi.