VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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I think that they are supposed to be on the same universe"
yeah they are definitely connected not just the same universe i bet the game owner is going to connect these two later, i'm currently playing the game and found out emilio... remember the gay barber in Summer's Gone that fixed MC's hair? he's in here too and the leia's earrings too... also, the college MC went to in Summer's Gone was called ZPR in which Z stood for Zane, like Aqua Zane, and the MC in WIAB is also a Zane
 
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txe320

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well it didn't change for me who's playing the uncut taboo version
Yes, I understand. I said that because that version, if you can say, would be changed.

Ocean removed all incest and changed the story again, so you still can play this version to a point and after that it would change for MC being adopted. Same for Leia.

They aren't Zane anymore.
 

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he's in here too and the leia's earrings too... also, the college MC went to in Summer's Gone was called ZPR in which Z stood for Zane, like Aqua Zane, and the MC in WIAB is also a Zane
In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean anything anymore, just earrings, just earrings that could just as easily have been found on the street. Nicky's parents didn't show up at WIAB (all theories went to hell), but now you can sleep with Katie or William, and why not, in the wiabear.jpg everyone kisses on the cheeks, but there was a spark between them.
ZPR now also doesn't mean anything by and large, it's just a reference to WIAB, what a surprise, in SG they won't tell us what happened in WIAB, and it seems to me more and more that there won't be any intersection of plots, the cameos of WIAB characters will continue and that's it.
 
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KiryuKazuma095

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yeah they are definitely connected not just the same universe i bet the game owner is going to connect these two later, i'm currently playing the game and found out emilio... remember the gay barber in Summer's Gone that fixed MC's hair? he's in here too and the leia's earrings too... also, the college MC went to in Summer's Gone was called ZPR in which Z stood for Zane, like Aqua Zane, and the MC in WIAB is also a Zane
Well I did not remembered those details thanks but now that the WIAB has changed Summer's Gone might change a bit too
 

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yeah they are definitely connected not just the same universe i bet the game owner is going to connect these two later, i'm currently playing the game and found out emilio... remember the gay barber in Summer's Gone that fixed MC's hair? he's in here too and the leia's earrings too... also, the college MC went to in Summer's Gone was called ZPR in which Z stood for Zane, like Aqua Zane, and the MC in WIAB is also a Zane
Uh Katie Zane is mentioned in SG as having designed the uniforms...

Katie Zane is an LI in WIAB....
 

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Have you noticed how both stories of SG and Wiab are full of unrealism of the gender inverted actions? Women are the heads of mafias, women take men to restaurants and pay bills, buy men clothes. Women pay most of the rent, etc. While men are weak, can't afford anything on their own and whine and cry? You can say that this happens in real life, but let be honest, for one woman who buys things for a man, there will be thousands of sugar daddies who buy things for women. If this isn't unrealistic, then what is?
 

Messerah

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This is not so absurd, try looking for Griselda Blanco or Maria Licciardi

For the rest.... Bella is Nika's sugar mama!
As I said before, for every Maria there are thousands of male Dons. And when these reverses are literally everywhere, there remains a feeling of unreality. And in the long run it's not good. It's like thousands of movies where chivalry, self-sacrifice, etc. are everywhere. And then grown-up people scream when a woman is attacked and a crowd of passers-by just watches. No, reality is different from movies.
 
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Uh Katie Zane is mentioned in SG as having designed the uniforms...

Katie Zane is an LI in WIAB....
yes yes i forgot to mention that, what i meant is, there are too many common things so i think the stories are gonna intersect.. that's just what i think even though oceanlab did remove all incest and all, there is still a part of me which thinks something's gonna connect
 

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Changelog:
- Fixed a few renders.
- Fixed a ton of spelling and grammar errors throughout the game. (More to come.)
- Rearranged some renders.

Previously, I added an outline to the text to make it easier to rea
The best thing would be for the story to continue, as it seems the progress remains at the same stage as the previous VS. Good game, but it doesn't go beyond that. :illuminati:
 

Skylaroo

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If this isn't unrealistic, then what is?
Unrealistic != uncommon.

Have you noticed how both stories of SG and Wiab are full of unrealism of the gender inverted actions? Women are the heads of mafias, women take men to restaurants and pay bills, buy men clothes. Women pay most of the rent, etc. While men are weak, can't afford anything on their own and whine and cry?
This is called selective evidence. You are ignoring the rich men and poor women that exist in these games because they don't fit into your narrative.
 

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As I said before, for every Maria there are thousands of male Dons. And when these reverses are literally everywhere, there remains a feeling of unreality. And in the long run it's not good. It's like thousands of movies where chivalry, self-sacrifice, etc. are everywhere. And then grown-up people scream when a woman is attacked and a crowd of passers-by just watches. No, reality is different from movies.
To keep Leia, Kati, Helen and Co. LIs Ocean sacrificed all logic and coherence of plot! I am still absolutely pissed and will never again support him. He could have easily kept the perfectly fine backstory of a lost son returning finally home, he simply would have had to make the female Zanes off-limits as LI. But that he did not want to, which led to this disaster of a backstory.
Currently this classic movie has more touch of reality than WIAB has from now on!
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he simply would have had to make the female Zanes off-limits as LI
I feel you. Absolutely agree. This would have been my preferred route too. But can you imagine how much shit his fans and supporters would haven given him? He would lose most, if not all of his support. You can argue that most of his fanbase subs to SG. We know that SG carried WiAB's development for a long time. But take what you know from all these games threads and imagine the incessant bitching and moaning about Helen and Leia not being lewdable.

And I only mention those 2 because he could have gotten away with Kat and Katie by making Katie adopted instead and making Helen and Scarlet best friends instead of sisters thus making Kat (and Scarlet) also a possible LI. This would be best case scenario for me. He keeps the integrity of the story, doesn't have to resort to this Mafia garbage so heavily and maintains the familial bond that was absolutely crucial to this plot. But even in this case he'd have to sacrifice Leia and Helen as possible LI's. No way around that.
 

Easylie

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Hello everyone !


I am trying to play Where it all Began-S1Ch.4- 07-11-2025-market, but for some reason it shows me error: "Couldn't find the file inside.jpg" or any other .jpg file.

I have checked directory \game\images\Chapter1 and found only 1 image and it seems like there should be more then 1... Is there a problem with the game ? Or should I try some other sites to download from instead of GoFile ?
 

hermit_tr

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Hello everyone !


I am trying to play Where it all Began-S1Ch.4- 07-11-2025-market, but for some reason it shows me error: "Couldn't find the file inside.jpg" or any other .jpg file.

I have checked directory \game\images\Chapter1 and found only 1 image and it seems like there should be more then 1... Is there a problem with the game ? Or should I try some other sites to download from instead of GoFile ?
I don't know the problem, but try this compressed version from SonsOfLiberty
 
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