VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Nurikabe]

For me and I'm sure many others, whenever a dev re-masters graphics and tweaks the already told parts of the story for a game that's not even half way finished is a pretty good sign that the dev is either milking or unable to come up with new content...therefore not worth supporting or talking about. Honestly, graphics are secondary to a well told or in this case spicy story, and the fact this dev has so much focus on graphics does not bode well...should have finished his story first before dicking around with lighting and other crap that doesn't matter at the end of the day.

I don't think that represents Ocean in any way. There is no doubt he is a perfectionist and that can be a major downfall.

This thread's liveliness (or any thread) is always one step away from an update, dev log, or image post. I agree that Ocean needs to tell the story. Get it out and release it. Then let those perfectionist feelings kick in and make changes if needed. This story has taken a back seat to Summer's Gone for a long time. When it comes to comparing it to the original version, I struggle with which is better. On one hand, that story was being released and updated regularly. But there were flaws and some significant weaknesses in the story. The visuals were beginner, but Ocean was a beginner at the time.

Perhaps taking this chance to rework the story and graphics will pay off in the end. It seems to have major improvements graphically. It is far too early to see where the story is going and what improvements have been made. From the dev logs and posts that Ocean has made on the subject, it sounds like he is making some significant changes to the story. The new version will be significantly different from the previous version. It is safe to say we have no clue where it is going. In some ways, that makes me sad for a story that I enjoyed. There are changes that I don't agree with, but overall, they are welcome and are true improvements.

Time will tell.

 

[slightchance]

Came here to see if this project has moved forward a little so the last Dev log gave me a chuckle. There are developers out there who do so much more with much less - from storytelling, scope to writing. He's investing so much time in one single aspect of the process that I wouldn't be surprised when he proclaims that he needs more time to study AI because "that would give him the edge on the market and cut render time by 2%".

 

[klou]

Came here to see if this project has moved forward a little so the last Dev log gave me a chuckle. There are developers out there who do so much more with much less - from storytelling, scope to writing. He's investing so much time in one single aspect of the process that I wouldn't be surprised when he proclaims that he needs more time to study AI because "that would give him the edge on the market and cut render time by 2%".

And some of the post are about computer specs blah blah rather than the actual progress update.

 

[Kassandara]

People do always find a way to complain about something

 

[Ass Fan]

It's funny because that's the absolute truth there will always be

 

[Jarulf]

People do always find a way to complain about something

And if we don't have anything to complain about, we'll complain about that

 

[slightchance]

Yep, it is a standard photographic principle called depth of field (DOF). It is important in highlighting the subject when the context (background) is less important. Look at any non-landscape image or film. They all use it. Even landscape if the image has a primary subject, like a tree.

You're not wrong, in principle. Look at the render of the new environment though. Give it a few seconds. Where are your eyes drawn to the most? Don't see it as a challenge, just be honest.

 

[faramata]

And some of the post are about computer specs blah blah rather than the actual progress update.

Well the specs and problems pertaining to them are tied to the progress (or lack thereof). At least he's not claiming he's sick while playing Final Fantasy twice, like other developers.

 

[Nurikabe]

You're not wrong, in principle. Look at the render of the new environment though. Give it a few seconds. Where are your eyes drawn to the most? Don't see it as a challenge, just be honest.

Which render are we looking at?

 

[slightchance]

Which render are we looking at?

The 3rd one. The new important environment.

 

[Rajesh Ram]

Did i miss something or was it all?
is there any helen scene in the Game yet? did i miss something?
there was no sex scene at all except miru,
i heard it has best MILF scenes that's the reason i downloaded it but didn't find any

 

[lipe2410]

i heard it has best MILF scenes

Well, they lied to you since there is no sex scenes with her at all

 

[Darkdevil66]

Well, they lied to you since there is no sex scenes with her at all

I'd even said, No sex scenes with ANY milf at all... Do you really like this game ?

 

[lipe2410]

I'd even said, No sex scenes with ANY milf at all... Do you really like this game ?

Let's say i like the big potentials this game have right now

 

[yossa999]

Did i miss something or was it all?
is there any helen scene in the Game yet? did i miss something?
there was no sex scene at all except miru,
i heard it has best MILF scenes that's the reason i downloaded it but didn't find any

Bro, weren't you the guy who threatened BaDIK thread that you won't play BaDIK until they give you a decent amount of MILFs? And they recommended Wendy, Dani, Minnie, Linda and Stanley to you? Indeed, Stanley has the hottest boobs approved by Derek! And you suddenly ended up here.
It seems they've pranked you again. Ocean games, Where It All Began and Summer's Gone, are great and have the hottest female characters imho, but no sex scenes yet other than Miru in WIAB. And these games are slow-burn and story-based, so if you're more interested in steamy sex scenes than story, this probably isn't your cup of tea.

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[Rajesh Ram]

Bro, weren't you the guy who threatened BaDIK thread that you won't play BaDIK until they give you a decent amount of MILFs? And they recommended Wendy, Dani, Minnie, Linda and Stanley to you? Indeed, Stanley has the hottest boobs approved by Derek! And you suddenly ended up here.
It seems they've pranked you again. Ocean games, Where It All Began and Summer's Gone, are great and have the hottest female characters imho, but no sex scenes yet other than Miru in WIAB. And these games are slow-burn and story-based, so if you're more interested in steamy sex scenes than story, this probably isn't your cup of tea.

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There was so many haha reacts on that comment so I thought he was lying that's why I didn't play Being dik,

In one of the thread they recommend this WIAB saying it has best MILF scene , This Game looks good but there was no scene at all ,

Thanks for suggestion I will try them one by one.

 

[xravensfan]

Where should a new player begin? 0.6? Or Chapter 2?

 

[Cabin Fever]

Where should a new player begin? 0.6? Or Chapter 2?

Don't bother with 0.6 (it's before the remake) unless you have a thing for poor graphics and plot holes so big that you can fly an A380 through.

 

[Nurikabe]

Where should a new player begin? 0.6? Or Chapter 2?

Don't bother with 0.6 (it's before the remake) unless you have a thing for poor graphics and plot holes so big that you can fly an A380 through.

There are plot holes. Completely open-ended parts of the story are left to be (un)told. But I enjoyed many parts of the old story. It is worth a playthrough, in my opinion.

 

[Doomyk]

Is there some art with Willy and Leya wedding?