VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Maviarab]

I can't agree with the latter, if Ocean's math is accurate, less than 100 people would be "fans" of WIAB (those who moved from the defunct Patreon page to SS). Few people to disappoint, other than the wishlist (last time I asked him he said "the expected, maybe a little more than that").
So yes, Ocean can afford that.

You do need to take into account the amount that won't leave Patreon, can't join SS and those that simply don't want another system to be paying into.

The longer this takes for an update, the longer it is not on Steam...so 100 fans? Sure....not on Steam, no, he cannot afford that as he will also get cross-over sales on Steam and even more fans. In fact, the debacle shows itself....fuck WIAB over, take your time, concentrate on SG...showed how many paying supporters he still had left for this (I myself used to be one before this became the ignored middle child).

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Usually like only the last time? or like the time with 2 up date for SG per up date for WIAB?

Oh God, that I reminds WiAB came out before SG 4.5 came out. But now you make me doubt

 

[sorco2003]

You do need to take into account the amount that won't leave Patreon, can't join SS and those that simply don't want another system to be paying into.

The longer this takes for an update, the longer it is not on Steam...so 100 fans? Sure....not on Steam, no, he cannot afford that as he will also get cross-over sales on Steam and even more fans. In fact, the debacle shows itself....fuck WIAB over, take your time, concentrate on SG...showed how many paying supporters he still had left for this.

Here we enter another leg of the debate, everything you collect from Steam will be "fresh", whether it is 100, 1000 or 10000.

 

[Maviarab]

As Zoe was brought up a few times:

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Luckily I raided this thread for these eventualities XD

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[Matt2012021]

Ask the question what does he do if he starts to lose a lot support for SG on patron would you rather have super long update cycle or no more updates for wiab at this point SG pays his bills and helps keeps wiab alive

 

[Maviarab]

Ask the question what does he do if he starts to lose a lot support for SG on patron would you rather have super long update cycle or no more updates for wiab at this point SG pays his bills and helps keeps wiab alive

Are you trying to be smart or start an old argument?

At this point, there's no really not much difference is there, we already have overly long update cycles for a Vn which came before Sg and was once the priority, so...*shrugs*

 

[BobTheDuck]

Ask the question what does he do if he starts to lose a lot support for SG on patron would you rather have super long update cycle or no more updates for wiab at this point SG pays his bills and helps keeps wiab alive

Why ask the question? He's not losing support, he's had a pretty steady number of patrons for SG for around a year. Sure it fluctuates, but it's not a question that needs to be asked because he's not losing them.

Why would anyone (in this WiaB thread) want Ocean to stop WiaB and focus on SG?

Ocean will do the the things he needs to to make sure his overall story will get told.

 

[yossa999]

Why ask the question? He's not losing support, he's had a pretty steady number of patrons for SG for around a year. Sure it fluctuates, but it's not a question that needs to be asked because he's not losing them.

Why would anyone (in this WiaB thread) want Ocean to stop WiaB and focus on SG?

Ocean will do the the things he needs to to make sure his overall story will get told.

Oh no, he's losing all support again? Last time he lost all support after the release on Steam, as a wandering expert in the SG thread brilliantly proved. And it's happening again? I can't bear it a second time. Bob, gimme your whiskey, quickly!

 

[Dr.TSoni]

There is an easy way to increase interest, just plagiarize Lucas.
The second season of SG opens with Nika asking Nojiko for explanations for the events of the Book Club.
When cornered, Nojiko reveals that her parents died because of the Zanes, shocked by this revelation Nika uses training with Ayua to confront the Zane patriarch. Now comes the important part the dialogue must be perfect:

William: Nojiko never told you what happened to your father.
Nika: She told me enough! She told me you killed him!
William: No. I am your father.
Luke: No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
William: Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
Nika: No! No!

Instant masterpiece

 

[sorco2003]

Oh no, he's losing all support again? Last time he lost all support after the release on Steam, as a wandering expert in the SG thread brilliantly proved. And it's happening again? I can't bear it a second time. Bob, gimme your whiskey, quickly!

But, He lost all support... at least on WIAB front...
And... why all the people are talking like insane to the wall?

 

[yossa999]

But, He lost all support... at least on WIAB front...
And... why all the people are talking like insane to the wall?

Talking with the copypaste is a tradition. You should respect it.

By the way, I recently saw 3 Auroras at SS, I wonder if they migrated from patreon or if these are new pledges.

 

[sorco2003]

Talking with the copypaste is a tradition. You should respect it.

By the way, I recently saw 3 Auroras at SS, I wonder if they migrated from patreon or if these are new pledges.

From what I saw, they are users that were already there, one as soon as the possibility was opened (even before WIAB was banned from patreon).

 

[sorco2003]

There is an easy way to increase interest, just plagiarize Lucas.
The second season of SG opens with Nika asking Nojiko for explanations for the events of the Book Club.
When cornered, Nojiko reveals that her parents died because of the Zanes, shocked by this revelation Nika uses training with Ayua to confront the Zane patriarch. Now comes the important part the dialogue must be perfect:

William: Nojiko never told you what happened to your father.
Nika: She told me enough! She told me you killed him!
William: No. I am your father.
Luke: No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
William: Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
Nika: No! No!

Instant masterpiece
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Okay, think about it, if the mayority of SG pledger dont give a fuck about WIAB, why a new comer from Steam will see that like a master piece?
Sorry, i wake up with a bad energy today

 

[BobTheDuck]

Okay, think about it, if the mayority of SG pledger dont give a fuck about WIAB, why a new comer from Steam will see that like a master piece?
Sorry, i wake up with a bad energy today

Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a log with not-quite-enough info to add extra spicy frustration to your days soon enough. Coffee is the answer to bad mornings around the world anyway

 

[Maviarab]

Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a log with not-quite-enough info to add extra spicy frustration to your days soon enough. Coffee is the answer to bad mornings around the world anyway

How many cups? i have 4 in the first 4 hours

Slacker...you're about 40 short. I guess Mr Coffee on the blink again...

 

[sorco2003]

Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a log with not-quite-enough info to add extra spicy frustration to your days soon enough. Coffee is the answer to bad mornings around the world anyway

How many cups? i have 4 in the first 4 hours

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Okay, think about it, if the mayority of SG pledger dont give a fuck about WIAB, why a new comer from Steam will see that like a master piece?
Sorry, i wake up with a bad energy today

Abused Star Wars fans drawn by the heat of nostalgia, a large market

XD

 

[Dr. Mick]

With both WiAB and SG, I didn't discover them until after the most recent updates.
When I finished the current content for WiAB, I saw that Ocean had another project, and hopped over to SG to check it out.

In both cases, I like the story, and enjoy hypothesising about what future content will reveal.
Both titles have a nice array of beautiful women, with interesting personality quirks to set them apart. Some better than others.
I'm looking forward to what eventually comes next, whenever that may be.

Slacker...you're about 40 short. I guess Mr Coffee on the blink again...

How many cups? i have 4 in the first 4 hours

In the meantime ... I find it easier to keep track of my coffee consumption by the pot.
My mug holds half a pot, and I refill it about ten to twelve times a day, on average.

 

[RNasc4444]

Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a log with not-quite-enough info to add extra spicy frustration to your days soon enough. Coffee is the answer to bad mornings around the world anyway

Oh please, please, please let it include tax updates, Blender updates and maybe a little workstation upgrade surprise gaaaaaaahhhh