VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

Are you sure? You have no "Methamorphosis" and each of the girls has a different build but if you are sure that you are up to it I'll let you coock and serve

 

[SamualHand]

I would be the adapter and the director so my job is already too much, now you mention it... are you keen to play the role of one of the girls?

If you don't participate, I'm not watching the movie!
But.... I could do the director thing & Joshy92 agreed to play the MC, so you have a chance to enjoy to be one of the girls!
Maybe Miru with some nice piercings?! ;-) And I'm sure Joshy92 will clean you properly!

 

[Dr.TSoni]

You're correct, I'm playing all the girls, because you don't play with Katie, that's pure devotion

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[LHDLLB]

If you've got the budget, please send a team to Ocean. A full sized film crew worth of CGI people could get all seasons of WiaB and SG done in 3 years for probably less money.

I don't know. I fear he would expand the story and we would get something like Baldurs Gate, not that I am complaining, would love that. But I am sure he made some concessions that with a bigger budget he would persue.

Maybe fully integrate SG and WiaB ? That would be something.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I don't know. I fear he would expand the story and we would get something like Baldurs Gate, not that I am complaining, would love that. But I am sure he made some concessions that with a bigger budget he would persue.

Maybe fully integrate SG and WiaB ? That would be something.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I don't know. I fear he would expand the story and we would get something like Baldurs Gate, not that I am complaining, would love that. But I am sure he made some concessions that with a bigger budget he would persue.

Maybe fully integrate SG and WiaB ? That would be something.

My personal feeling is the story is already long enough in both games. sure he could stretch them out, but I'd hope Ocean has the presence of mind to understand that extra content just for the sake of extra content advances nothing other than time (but hey, he's all about extra content when it comes to bewbs for the lewds...)

If Ocean had a team, he could have people whose sole responsibility is to check continuity errors. He could have people crafting loose fitting tops or sets or the lighting, creating phone apps etc. These are things he doesn't need to do personally, because he's already tried to get help for these things, or already outsourced some of these developments.

But the biggest reason why Ocean doesn't have a team isn't money, but that he is too used to doing it himself and tto close to it to let go enough to share it. Maybe one day.

I think as separate books, with their own seasons and chapters makes sense. Carrying persistent data from one to the other is fine. Otherwise, you'd HAVE to play WiaB before you could start SG, and having two games is better for sales than one.

 

[RNasc4444]

But the biggest reason why Ocean doesn't have a team isn't money, but that he is too used to doing it himself and tto close to it to let go enough to share it. Maybe one day.

That's a pleasant way of saying he's a fickle, neurotic and micromanaging control-freak

I think he definetely could use some help with his games but given everything I've seen from him over the years, I doubt he would ever again relinquish a modicum of control over the development of SG or WiAB. Maybe he could work with other people in other projects, but never his own.

 

[BobTheDuck]

That's a pleasant way of saying he's a fickle, neurotic and micromanaging control-freak

I can't disagree, tenacity and stubborness is basically the same coin, it's the outcome that determines whether we see it as a positive or negative. Not going to try and flip your description into a positive though

 

[Krytax123]

Yeah he could just pay an employee instead of throwing the money away with taxes if he really has to pay this much taxes.

But tbf there isnt a single avn where it worked when the dev employed people. "Small" things like outsourcing the animations are fine but whenever a dev turned into a company or started as one ... they suck ass, all of them and produce only the most generic, boring shit content.

Look at freshwomen *cough*

And managing employes is fucking annoying

 

[Deleted member 7535870]

You're correct, I'm playing all the girls, because you don't play with Katie, that's pure devotion

How lucky! you will have the opportunity to be lifted by MC

 

[RNasc4444]

I can't disagree, tenacity and stubborness is basically the same coin, it's the outcome that determines whether we see it as a positive or negative. Not going to try and flip your description into a positive though

I didn't even mean it in a negative way either. Some people just struggle when it comes to give and takes or cooperation with other individuals. I've worked with a few guys and gals who had this issue. They weren't bad people, their brain just wanted somehting in a certain way and they had difficulty letting go...

 

[LHDLLB]

My personal feeling is the story is already long enough in both games. sure he could stretch them out, but I'd hope Ocean has the presence of mind to understand that extra content just for the sake of extra content advances nothing other than time (but hey, he's all about extra content when it comes to bewbs for the lewds...)

If Ocean had a team, he could have people whose sole responsibility is to check continuity errors. He could have people crafting loose fitting tops or sets or the lighting, creating phone apps etc. These are things he doesn't need to do personally, because he's already tried to get help for these things, or already outsourced some of these developments.

But the biggest reason why Ocean doesn't have a team isn't money, but that he is too used to doing it himself and tto close to it to let go enough to share it. Maybe one day.

I think as separate books, with their own seasons and chapters makes sense. Carrying persistent data from one to the other is fine. Otherwise, you'd HAVE to play WiaB before you could start SG, and having two games is better for sales than one.

I quite agree about the story scope, was not necessarily talking about it. More something like more cinematics or more detailed brachings, more renders per update, things of this nature. Not draguing out the plot for the sake of it but maybe give it more deepth than he can at the moment.

About WiaB and SG. both have their one canon end, and are separate story but just as some games as Mass Effect lets you import your save from one to another, he could potentially do the same thingy, with enought investment. Not make it one single story.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

About WiaB and SG. both have their one canon end, and are separate story but just as some games as Mass Effect lets you import your save from one to another, he could potentially do the same thingy, with enought investment. Not make it one single story.

I can see some parallels with WiaB

How lucky! you will have the opportunity to be lifted by MC View attachment 3990570

But you never know when Katie will get her revenge.
Look the eye of the tiger

 

[Deleted member 7535870]

If you don't participate, I'm not watching the movie!
But.... I could do the director thing & Joshy92 agreed to play the MC, so you have a chance to enjoy to be one of the girls!
Maybe Miru with some nice piercings?! ;-) And I'm sure Joshy92 will clean you properly!

I needed an MC and since Joshy92 is up for it, we're good sorry Bella, but we already have a director, here he's not the scum; we can't change everything into a mess
Either you choose to be one of the girls Helen ,Katarina,Gina etcetera...and have your ass destroyed by Joshy or play as the big fatty boy who i forgot his name or there is no more room and you get out!

 

[Maviarab]

I didn't even mean it in a negative way either. Some people just struggle when it comes to give and takes or cooperation with other individuals. I've worked with a few guys and gals who had this issue. They weren't bad people, their brain just wanted somehting in a certain way and they had difficulty letting go...

I'm actually the same myself. After doing certain things a certain number of times, I know the way I do it is the most efficient and logical. I also know most people are nowhere near efficient enough or care enough about attention to detail as I do, so, as the old saying goes....

If you want a job doing....

 

[Deleted member 7535870]

But you never know when Katie will get her revenge.
View attachment 3990681 Look the eye of the tiger

TF broh? Remind me to never trashtalk her anymore, she's like she want to murder Someone Leia is really a bad influence

 

[Monty10]

does this game have 32bit crack?
someone plz reply me before download it

 

[Deleted member 7535870]

does this game have 32bit crack?
someone plz reply me before download it

I don't know the specific "bit" but if you want a lowest sized game there is a compressed version

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[BobTheDuck]

I quite agree about the story scope, was not necessarily talking about it. More something like more cinematics or more detailed brachings, more renders per update, things of this nature. Not draguing out the plot for the sake of it but maybe give it more deepth than he can at the moment.

About WiaB and SG. both have their one canon end, and are separate story but just as some games as Mass Effect lets you import your save from one to another, he could potentially do the same thingy, with enought investment. Not make it one single story.

It's already the intention for that to happen with the import, same as for the SG S2 import continues on from S1. But currently I imagine, there's no significant choices that affect Nika, unless the sweet or spicy chicken burger will be the #1 important game variable. I'm guessing it will lead to certain character having slightly different backstories in SG, a few flavour dialogues like what we saw in the bookclub could add the names that were on the team etc. Keeping in mind that choices from WiaB are only relevant to world shaping for SG, Ocean's not going to let the choices mess up the canon of the story - ie, even if William doesn't have sex once in WiaB, Ayua will still exist, there will be no choice to rescue Katie vs letting her die, because we know she doesn't die or become crippled etc.

I get you about the cinematics, that's 100% why I'd like a team. Ocean could story board, some one else sets the scene according to the story board, Ocean goes in tweaks the scene to taste, someone else renders etc. That's a pretty ideal scenario, which would redult in everything being faster, and so there could be more animations, and Ocean is more looking at the work objectively. But it's a nice dream, because Ocean likes doing it all himself I think. The only 'faster' will be the occassional outsourcing (like the foorball field I believe) and lots of slave rigs to make a render farm.

I'm actually the same myself. After doing certain things a certain number of times, I know the way I do it is the most efficient and logical. I also know most people are nowhere near efficient enough or care enough about attention to detail as I do, so, as the old saying goes....

If you want a job doing....

I'm more than a little bit that way myself. I'm really just dreaming of ways to get Ch5 sooner. The other valuable thing about even a failed collaboration, is often it forces the dev to look for inefficiencies in their process; trying to explain what you do to someone else often makes you realise areas of your process that are redundant, or only have historical purposes.

But mostly a dream of getting nice things like more Katie content, more of the time

 

[sorco2003]

It's already the intention for that to happen with the import, same as for the SG S2 import continues on from S1. But currently I imagine, there's no significant choices that affect Nika, unless the sweet or spicy chicken burger will be the #1 important game variable. I'm guessing it will lead to certain character having slightly different backstories in SG, a few flavour dialogues like what we saw in the bookclub could add the names that were on the team etc. Keeping in mind that choices from WiaB are only relevant to world shaping for SG, Ocean's not going to let the choices mess up the canon of the story - ie, even if William doesn't have sex once in WiaB, Ayua will still exist, there will be no choice to rescue Katie vs letting her die, because we know she doesn't die or become crippled etc.

I get you about the cinematics, that's 100% why I'd like a team. Ocean could story board, some one else sets the scene according to the story board, Ocean goes in tweaks the scene to taste, someone else renders etc. That's a pretty ideal scenario, which would redult in everything being faster, and so there could be more animations, and Ocean is more looking at the work objectively. But it's a nice dream, because Ocean likes doing it all himself I think. The only 'faster' will be the occassional outsourcing (like the foorball field I believe) and lots of slave rigs to make a render farm.



I'm more than a little bit that way myself. I'm really just dreaming of ways to get Ch5 sooner. The other valuable thing about even a failed collaboration, is often it forces the dev to look for inefficiencies in their process; trying to explain what you do to someone else often makes you realise areas of your process that are redundant, or only have historical purposes.

But mostly a dream of getting nice things like more Katie content, more of the time

A little self-reference almost off topic...
Since my activity for the last 15 years has been basically coordinating teams, I have a hard time when I meet individualists. When a certain activity can be done by oneself, go ahead and do it, but obviously that limits the prospects. A good coordinator does not teach how to do things, he chooses the one who demonstrates with results.
And I would like to link this to the other part that catches my attention, when a hardware upgrade results in shorter cycles? answer... never.
If not, look at that other lonely dev who made it clear that he would never hire anyone because he wants to do it all by himself... he has a rig capable of doing 20 AVNs a year, but geez! 60fps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!