VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Maviarab

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The intro is still not in the current canon even with the muted or changed music when Leia takes out the phone and dials the number there are initials W.Z on it. He would have to rework the ending of this intro and change the initials to the current W.G. So typical Ocean weeks or more of work on this intro thrown in the trash because subsequent changes in the script made it not current
But Zane is still his unnofficial surname...to signify which mob/clan/family he belongs to. So nothing needs changing there.
 
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Em the amount of pages here and development time is VERY telling, there's no doubt it's a very polished AVN, problem is there ain't much sex, and the NTR tag is VERY dubious, all I've seen is one hand job, and that wasn't from the GF, it has just gone on to steam for a very reasonable price, however an NTR tagged title with VERY little NTR, infrequent vanilla sex and an eternal development time isn't something I invest in.
 

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Em the amount of pages here and development time is VERY telling, there's no doubt it's a very polished AVN, problem is there ain't much sex, and the NTR tag is VERY dubious, all I've seen is one hand job, and that wasn't from the GF, it has just gone on to steam for a very reasonable price, however an NTR tagged title with VERY little NTR, infrequent vanilla sex and an eternal development time isn't something I invest in.
If you have an issue with the tags, take it up with the mods, they do them.
 
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Em the amount of pages here and development time is VERY telling, there's no doubt it's a very polished AVN, problem is there ain't much sex, and the NTR tag is VERY dubious, all I've seen is one hand job, and that wasn't from the GF, it has just gone on to steam for a very reasonable price, however an NTR tagged title with VERY little NTR, infrequent vanilla sex and an eternal development time isn't something I invest in.
So...don't invest? Seems simple enough.
 

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If you have an issue with the tags, take it up with the mods, they do them.
It's not just the Tag, NTR is mentioned at the start (option to turn on/off), and then near the very end of the current instalment another NTR pop up for the one poxy hand job that that isn't from the GF, my point is; there are several indicators pointing to NTR content when having played it for well over 2 hours there's NO NTR content.
 

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It's not just the Tag, NTR is mentioned at the start (option to turn on/off), and then near the very end of the current instalment another NTR pop up for the one poxy hand job that that isn't from the GF, my point is; there are several indicators pointing to NTR content when having played it for well over 2 hours there's NO NTR content.
There's also a scene at the end of Ch3. Now, what you consider NTR, the mods, Ocean, all differ greatly.

If you were expecting Miru to be gangbanged already by Ch4 that's very much on you, not anyone else and very much a you issue if you're pissed there is no 'NTR'. The warning is at the start to cover...the...entire...story....
 

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Meh.... I still think I like the original story better than this one. This one is visually stunning, but the story does not seem as good. Also, boo for only finding 1 NTR button. I mean, that's it? Just one option for NTR and I am not sure you could even call it NTR.

Anyway, It's still a great AVN but there are aspects of the original story I miss.

Nice job dev! Really well done.
 

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Meh.... I still think I like the original story better than this one. This one is visually stunning, but the story does not seem as good. Also, boo for only finding 1 NTR button. I mean, that's it? Just one option for NTR and I am not sure you could even call it NTR.

Anyway, It's still a great AVN but there are aspects of the original story I miss.

Nice job dev! Really well done.
I agree it is stunning, but NTR is non existent, there ain't much sex and what there is is dreary.
 

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Another inconsistency that is now created in the whole SG-WiAB universe.

Just posted this on the WiAB/SG Discord:
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It's not weird to assume Katie is just so closed to the zanes that ayua calls her auntie out of respect

I think you might have misunderstood the situation. Katie is still a Zane both legally and biologically, but William and Leia are no longer Zanes, neither biologically (and they’re no longer related to each other either) nor legally, as they were never adopted, just taken in by the Zane family since the latest change in the script.

What Alain was pointing out here is that, in SG, it’s not entirely clear why Katie is still considered as Ayua’s aunt, unless Ocean later explains or justifies this through other narrative means. He was wondering how the dev would present their new relationship ties, if there are any left, after the changes made in the WIAB script, in a logical and natural way.
 
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Maybe it takes place in a world where this sort of thing isn't allowed?
I think more and more that if Ocean wants to continue on the mafia path, then in order for it to be understandable to us in any way, he has to add something like a Delucas-style codex and to explain where all these families came from, what rules govern them, then all these seemingly strange things might make some sense. This world that he is trying to present is starting to feel the need to have some solid background in the form of lore. And not a trick with characters saying that ''this is how it works here'', which the ocean uses when it is convenient for him
 
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