VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[hermit_tr]

Don't complain too much about the long update time, considering how high and detailed the rendering quality is.

Remembering that it takes some time to render 1 image, it is also calculated that 1 image requires several renderings to get the desired results. (if I'm not mistaken, Ocean mentioned that because of the large demand for VRAM, making rendering settings difficult).

So it's not surprising that Ocean can only complete low 2 digits or even 1 digit renders per working day.

with that quality, around 4000 images per year (SG + WiAB), plus the rework process ,music/song licensing issues and transition from DAZ to blender, this speed is quite good. (Many VNs update monthly by providing 300-400 images.)

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Honestly for the wait.. I expected much more than this, It's not "ok" It's bad and i don't know how some people think that this is a good update.. I regret waiting for it ngl, Welp atleast i can move on with my life

I thought the update was "good" in that it introduced the characters well. There was a feeling of familiarity and happiness to see each other, as one would expect of old friends. We had an introduction to what's been going on and what Leia has been up to. WiAB has the potential to be really great.

The problem is Ocean is cheating on WiaB with another VN. One that I don't care for and it's taking time away from WiaB. But, can't do anything about that, so I just set my expectations low. If he were to work WiaB full-time, I'd likely be a higher-tier monthly supporter.

 

[mommysboiii]

SLOWBURN???
we have been waiting for this update for almost two years and if it's a slow burn then I'm not sure our great grandchildren will get NTR content...

well seems like we like different kind of ntr and you should read some of this manwhas/doujin were ntr happens every chapter without any story or build up the internet is full of these

 

[xXwankerXx]

we have been waiting for this update for almost two years and if it's a slow burn then I'm not sure our great grandchildren will get NTR content...

where is the Miru NTR?

Hopefully there'll be some NTR in the next update

so no NTR in this update?

One very tame scene. But at least it's a start

Y'all seem to forget or to pretend you don't know this game isn't a NTR focused one, so every 'bonus' scene like that is just that, a bonus for players who want variety and those who intentionally want, fuck knows why, to see the MC get screwed, hopefully, figuratively only, so have some patience like some of us non NTR fans do or just play other NTR focused games while waiting to see that type of content in this game, instead of asking for the same thing after every release.

I know it takes Ocean a lot to release an update, but the overall quality makes it worth the wait, IMO. Plus, there's a shitload of other games to play while waiting for WIAB and SG to get updates, so there's no reason to be impatient about a few optional scenes and/or bad endings. If Ocean said there will be some optional NTR scenes, then this type of scenes will eventually be in the game, but there's gotta be some sort of build up that will lead to them too, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, especially in a story written by a perfectionist like Ocean.

this is not your typical ntr game that has your LOVE interest go braindead after 2 updates it happens over a long time and more realistic with QUALITIE and cat and mouse game/build up were your heart is bounding constantly not like in ntr manwhas/dojines where its without any build up at all this game will have REAL hurtful ntr but its not the main focus too its optional ntr

Exactly this. Keyword is optional, which should be enough reason to understand how much focus will be put into making those scenes compared to their not-so-vanilla counterparts.

Katie is amazing. She is such an absolute teasing bitch

She knows she want her buff bro's D tho, even if it's just to piss Leia off.

 

[tata19]

Is it possible that the previous saves do not work?

 

[Faceless0ne]

Maybe your math is wrong, bc there were more than ten updates in 5 years, what a surprise

Only if you count in the abandonware that is the old version.
With the current speed, if the devs keep some of the old story elements, we be at the point god ol' 0.6 is... In or around 2030, maybe 2032.

[Edit] And yes, strangely I did enjoy most of the old NTR scene (which I'm usually not a fan of) simply because it's not your stupid run of the mill NTR. But I guess the devs became wet feet, seeing as in the old version there's the possibility for Miru the get pregnant while fucking others.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Is it possible that the previous saves do not work?

Not only possible, it's inevitable they don't work. He upgraded Ren'Py versions.

 

[tata19]

In other words, we have to start from the beginning, yes or yes?

 

[Lorenz1]

Jesus, people, can you be positive for a single day? Enjoy the game on release. You will have an entire year to whine about development time.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

In other words, we have to start from the beginning, yes or yes?

Yeah, so go to settings, check "Unseen Text", and prepare your CTRL key for a speed-run.

 

[tata19]

Yeah, so go to settings, check "Unseen Text", and prepare your CTRL key for a speed-run.

OK thanks dude!!!

 

[TheSweetEvilKing]

Well i read the new message on chpt 3 start n im like NOOO i gotta start again. So i copied saves from chapter 2 and put into chapter 3 in both the renpy save files in appdata and in new chpt 3 save folder without the persistent file. when i tried to play most of the saves did not work but i was able to satrt from where MC n Katie plan attack on spiders. so i didnt have to start a new game it contiued from there

 

[stiltoboglovian412]

Y'all seem to forget or to pretend you don't know this game isn't a NTR focused one, so every 'bonus' scene like that is just that, a bonus for players who want variety and those who intentionally want, fuck knows why, to see the MC get screwed, hopefully, figuratively only, so have some patience like some of us non NTR fans do or just play other NTR focused games while waiting to see that type of content in this game, instead of asking for the same thing after every release.

I know it takes Ocean a lot to release an update, but the overall quality makes it worth the wait, IMO. Plus, there's a shitload of other games to play while waiting for WIAB and SG to get updates, so there's no reason to be impatient about a few optional scenes and/or bad endings. If Ocean said there will be some optional NTR scenes, then this type of scenes will eventually be in the game, but there's gotta be some sort of build up that will lead to them too, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, especially in a story written by a perfectionist like Ocean.



Exactly this. Keyword is optional, which should be enough reason to understand how much focus will be put into making those scenes compared to their not-so-vanilla counterparts.



She knows she want her buff bro's D tho, even if it's just to piss Leia off.

Well the original was very NTR focused so you'll forgive people for thinking that it'll be a decent portion of this one. I don't mind slow burn though, it's a lot more realistic and interesting that way anyway, which is why I mentioned hints/teases rather than full-blown dumb whoring.

 

[Faceless0ne]

Well the original was very NTR focused so you'll forgive people for thinking that it'll be a decent portion of this one. I don't mind slow burn though, it's a lot more realistic and interesting that way anyway, which is why I mentioned hints/teases rather than full-blown dumb whoring.

As I theorised in my post on the previous page, I guess that the devs became wet feet, becuase they already implented many future possibilies on the NTR route.

The old version is/was very well written aswell. I usually don't like NTR at all, yet here they managed to pack it in such a way that it feelt like the NPCs (Miru) had their own agenda rather than the 3 times eaten 0815 NTR stories you get from all the other devs.

 

[lorkdubo]

As I theorised in my post on the previous page, I guess that the devs became wet feet, becuase they already implented many future possibilies on the NTR route.

The old version is/was very well written aswell. I usually don't like NTR at all, yet here they managed to pack it in such a way that it feelt like the NPCs (Miru) had their own agenda rather than the 3 times eaten 0815 NTR stories you get from all the other devs.

I'm sorry, the previous version was written well? Did we play the same game? Miru in the old game was an unlikeable character and really one-dimensional. AVN doesn't thrive in seasoned and learned writers so they won't write "good NTR" and it is kind of a joke that if you turn off NTR at the start there is a warning that characters will act "less realistic" when it's usually the contrary. This game and Summer's Gone have a really large cast of characters and if he is smart, then he should go the harem/poly route to only have one route that includes characters or not and not have different paths depending on your romanced character. And I don't even like harem that much but it's the smart idea if he actually wants to finish these games.

 

[Faceless0ne]

Miru in the old game was an unlikeable character and really one-dimensional.

So like 99.999% of mankind.

Realism. I like it.

 

[NebulousShooter]

 

[Claudio83]

I have played the new update, so the only NTR scene involving Miru is at the toilet with the Krayt gang mebmber?

 

[dan_roger69]

I have played the new update, so the only NTR scene involving Miru is at the toilet with the Krayt gang mebmber?

If you consider that NTR instead of bait then yes. I don't think there would be any lewd content for another 2 or 3 updates.

 

[Sasanid]

I'm sorry, the previous version was written well? Did we play the same game? Miru in the old game was an unlikeable character and really one-dimensional. AVN doesn't thrive in seasoned and learned writers so they won't write "good NTR" and it is kind of a joke that if you turn off NTR at the start there is a warning that characters will act "less realistic" when it's usually the contrary. This game and Summer's Gone have a really large cast of characters and if he is smart, then he should go the harem/poly route to only have one route that includes characters or not and not have different paths depending on your romanced character. And I don't even like harem that much but it's the smart idea if he actually wants to finish these games.

Harem never are the smart ideas, usually they stem from a lack of creativity, lack of psychological understanding and/or subpar writing skills from devs. Which is something Ocean doesn't seem to lack. Polyamorous routes usually are misunderstood, too often associated to harems, and when those few devs who understands how it works manages to write some of those in their games, you get the dumbass 'NTR squad' whining about it cause they don't get how poly works at all. There are supposed to be 2-3 poly routes in SG, though. But yeah, I agree on one thing, completion of his games, especially given how story heavy they are, will take a loooooong time. But I don't mind, personally, I don't need these games to live, I just have to enjoy them.

I have to add, some devs knows how to make harem/poly work, like Caribdis with his 2 games, which are just fun all around, or the Bare Witness devs who managed to build actual poly routes that works as intended in their game.