VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Now I'm confused, because someone else here had condescended......well that's not the right word but informed me that I wasn't playing the 'canon' version of game by treating it as non-incest, yet you need a patch to make the the relationships that way? Sounds like that's less canon.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ocean is the one making the patch and posting it to lewdpatcher as a way to avoid Patreon bullshit. It could be someone else... but not sure. It's always been my belief that yeah, this was meant to be an incest story, considering the 'unit' that lived together in the same house with younger people of similar age and then two older people. But, I don't really know. But yeah, if it's meant to be canon, it's patched simply because of Patreon BS.

 

[Maviarab]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ocean is the one making the patch and posting it to lewdpatcher as a way to avoid Patreon bullshit. It could be someone else... but not sure. It's always been my belief that yeah, this was meant to be an incest story, considering the 'unit' that lived together in the same house with younger people of similar age and then two older people. But, I don't really know. But yeah, if it's meant to be canon, it's patched simply because of Patreon BS.

Exactly and yes, I believe to my knowledge the patch is 'official'.

Basically, the story without incest...none of the conflict (especially between MC, Katie and Leia) makes any godamn sense.

 

[Joshy92]

Incest games without a patch always make me laugh

'Oh roommate we can't be together it's not right you know our landlord won't approve'

 

[sorco2003]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ocean is the one making the patch and posting it to lewdpatcher as a way to avoid Patreon bullshit. It could be someone else... but not sure. It's always been my belief that yeah, this was meant to be an incest story, considering the 'unit' that lived together in the same house with younger people of similar age and then two older people. But, I don't really know. But yeah, if it's meant to be canon, it's patched simply because of Patreon BS.

If you search in this thread, in the distant past, a certain delete member confirmed a certain type of relationship.
WIAB never became famous enough to delete that evidence as he did in the SG thread.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Basically, the story without incest...none of the conflict (especially between MC, Katie and Leia) makes any godamn sense.

100% agree.

Incest games without a patch always make me laugh

'Oh roommate we can't be together it's not right you know our landlord won't approve'

At least it's comical... but then I'm just turned off by it because it sounds so ridiculous.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Patreon rules.
The story has always been an incest story from day one...but yeah...Patreon. That's why patches exist.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ocean is the one making the patch and posting it to lewdpatcher as a way to avoid Patreon bullshit. It could be someone else... but not sure. It's always been my belief that yeah, this was meant to be an incest story, considering the 'unit' that lived together in the same house with younger people of similar age and then two older people. But, I don't really know. But yeah, if it's meant to be canon, it's patched simply because of Patreon BS.

That makes sense, though seeing as a large amount of gameplay occurs with Miru-the girlfriend, to me at least Ocean has constructed a world where both incest and non-incest content exist in sizeable amounts; I found it very easy to treat Katie like a childhood friend and Miru as the gf. Though this is probably because I ignore the rest: whatever the mom figures name is, helen? katarina? whatever, zero interest, I just know they have occasional screen time.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

That makes sense, though seeing as a large amount of gameplay occurs with Miru-the girlfriend, to me at least Ocean has constructed a world where both incest and non-incest content exist in sizeable amounts.

Definitely. He's made it so you don't even have to pursue relationships with the 'family' and can remain with Miru. And if you play without the patch, it's not really that bad.

By default though, I will apply a patch if it exists because otherwise I know I'll probably hear some "but I'm your roommate!" shit, and I just can't have that.

 

[Maviarab]

That makes sense, though seeing as a large amount of gameplay occurs with Miru-the girlfriend, to me at least Ocean has constructed a world where both incest and non-incest content exist in sizeable amounts; I found it very easy to treat Katie like a childhood friend and Miru as the gf. Though this is probably because I ignore the rest: whatever the mom figures name is, helen? katarina? whatever, zero interest, I just know they have occassional screen time.

Miru was always a very central character at the start (even in old version). Unfortunately the old version stopped just as she left and the 'other temptations' were just starting.

Again, as I said before, the conflict between the MC, Katie and Leia make zero sense without the patch. There's reasons for all their behaviour.

By default though, I will apply a patch if it exists because otherwise I know I'll probably hear some "but I'm your roommate!" shit, and I just can't have that.

Completely agree.

 

[Joshy92]

Wait ocean deleted his account on here?
That's a shame
I assume it was because people kept harassing & bullying him?

It sucks when people push devs away from this site

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Miru was always a very central character at the start (even in old version). Unfortunately the old version stopped just as she left and the 'other temptations' were just starting.

It was really getting good and those moments with Katie were Chef's kiss.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

It sucks when people push devs away from this site

It does, but it was also a bit self-inflicted.

 

[sorco2003]

Definitely. He's made it so you don't even have to pursue relationships with the 'family' and can remain with Miru. And if you play without the patch, it's not really that bad.

By default though, I will apply a patch if it exists because otherwise I know I'll probably hear some "but I'm your roommate!" shit, and I just can't have that.

Well, but at least in WIAB you weren't going to read "this is so wrong, I´m your landlady"

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Well, but at least in WIAB you weren't going to read "this is so wrong, I´m your landlady"

"Who cares!? I'm just tryna get outta paying my rent!"

 

[Maviarab]

Wait ocean deleted his account on here?
That's a shame
I assume it was because people kept harassing & bullying him?

It sucks when people push devs away from this site

It does, but it was also a bit self-inflicted.

Yup.

It was really getting good and those moments with Katie were Chef's kiss.

Oh hell yes....my second favourite VN LI of all time...her current iteration may drop a place or two, will wait for more updates. I think one of my all time scenes is where you force her to orgasm on the bed and then just leave and she is all like...wtf lmao....classic. Glad it's still available to dl for folk...everyone should see that at least once in their VN life...her attitude alone is worth the download.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Well, but at least in WIAB you weren't going to read "this is so wrong, I´m your landlady"

Ocean should add it to scenes with Dana since we'll be renting her place

 

[sorco2003]

Ocean should add it to scenes with Dana since we'll be renting her place

Yeah!!!! that´s will be magical... I'm going to tell Ocean, maybe he'll like it as a fourth wall joke.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Oh hell yes....my second favourite VN LI of all time...her current iteration may drop a place or two, will wait for more updates. I think one of my all time scenes is where you force her to orgasm on the bed and then just leave and she is all like...wtf lmao....classic. Glad it's still available to dl for folk...everyone should see that at least once in their VN life...her attitude alone is worth the download.

What is it about her current iteration that makes her drop for you? I'm still enjoying her quite a bit.

 

[Joshy92]

It does, but it was also a bit self-inflicted.

I only really started coming to this thread recently
So i don't know the full story

It's just I have seen other devs get run off
And it makes me feel really bad for them

I can't imagine putting my heart & soul into a game
Just to have people say I suck or that I'm a terrible dev

I think constructive criticism is fine
But I think a lot of the time people treat devs like they are emotionless machines or something.

 

[Maviarab]

What is it about her current iteration that makes her drop for you? I'm still enjoying her quite a bit.

Noo...she hasn't dropped yet (and recall I'm waiting for full chapter before playing this update), but she not quite up to the standard of her old version...yet lol...I'm very sure she will be though by the time we get back to where the old stopped. She is still awesome.

I only really started coming to this thread recently
So i don't know the full story

It's just I have seen other devs get run off
And it makes me feel really bad for them

I can't imagine putting my heart & soul into a game
Just to have people say I suck or that I'm a terrible dev

I think constructive criticism is fine
But I think a lot of the time people treat devs like they are emotionless machines or something.

He did get a lot of shit thrown at him...more than the usual devs get to be fair...however, Ocean (as much as I like him and his VN's)...was not exactly receptive to a lot of it...and that just caused more issues...rinse and repeat...

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I only really started coming to this thread recently
So i don't know the full story

It's just I have seen other devs get run off
And it makes me feel really bad for them

I can't imagine putting my heart & soul into a game
Just to have people say I suck or that I'm a terrible dev

I think constructive criticism is fine
But I think a lot of the time people treat devs like they are emotionless machines or something.

Yeah, I've been following WiaB for sometime now. Like, at least since I joined this site.

I do dislike people who try to strong-arm devs into adding/removing content they like/dislike and so forth. And then there's the plebs who never support a dev but then lose their shit when a release takes a long time like they're owed something. I think it's ok to post about an update taking a long time, but when they are constantly taking the piss outta someone for it, meh... fuck off with that. I pull my money out when a dev doesn't perform. Which is why I've only supported Ocean once.