VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Crashbullet]

Not a fan of incest, but the MC's running away makes less sence and stupid, the games overall story always hinted towards organized crime, atleast I felt like that even before the rewrite. The overall premise makes sense but it feels like there is some thing lacking (and not talking about lack of sex, which this game also does). I have mixed feeling regarding the direction this game is going, but this is just season 1, but the speed of development makes you think GRRM might finish his ASOIAF books before we will see the end of Summer's Gone and WIAB.

No one is thrilled about incest, even those who call the mafia a family, as you rightly noted, this was a story about organized crime, but not about the Italian mafia clans with a German approach to the American theme.

 

[Icekatana]

Patreon and Steam, this is how we got here. Hate or love the change but Ocean doged a bullet, can you imagined Steam dropping the bomb 3 days after he released WiaB on it ? It will be the end of it. I have my problems with it but bad WiaB still is better than none WiaB.



They are everywhere

You mean Visa and Mastercard. That's how we got here. And it seems that no Western government will stand up to them.

I can't prove this, but I have a feeling that Ocean might have gotten some advance notice on pending Steam policy changes. Remember when he was talking about keeping Leia and MC as the only related characters, only for him to quietly delete the post? That's a little too coincidental. It could be a coincidence, but I'm not so sure.

 

[yossa999]

You mean Visa and Mastercard. That's how we got here. And it seems that no Western government will stand up to them.

I can't prove this, but I have a feeling that Ocean might have gotten some advance notice on pending Steam policy changes. Remember when he was talking about keeping Leia and MC as the only related characters, only for him to quietly delete the post? That's a little too coincidental. It could be a coincidence, but I'm not so sure.

Honestly, I don't want to sound rude, but are you serious?

Do you think the subtle hint from Patreon (when they took the fuck out WiAB page) wasn't enough for someone whose business depends on these platforms? Almost all AVN developers were talking this year about that, that platforms will strengthen the implementation of rules for regulating adult content, since payment processors are putting pressure on them. They were talking about this last year too. Everyone who was curious about the topic could see where this was all heading.

And only resident "customers", like little children, do not see elementary cause and effect connections, for them it's a big surprise. And even now they continue to stomp their little feet here and there and demand "Let me fuck that loli-looking sister over there, Steam doesn't care anyway. What? No? Bad, bad dev, baka..." While Steam retires ~10-20 adult games a day, especially those that have any hint of I- or R-content in the title or description.

 

[LHDLLB]

any other person with decent writing skills could've done a better job getting out of that predicament but we're talking about Ocean the guy that as soon as he sees a pen and paper or microsoft word he become "Mr. Ocean Hyde "
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I acctualy think that despite its flaws, and there is plenty, the change was as well made as it could possible be with ou a new remake or a bigger chapther.

You mean Visa and Mastercard. That's how we got here. And it seems that no Western government will stand up to them.

I can't prove this, but I have a feeling that Ocean might have gotten some advance notice on pending Steam policy changes. Remember when he was talking about keeping Leia and MC as the only related characters, only for him to quietly delete the post? That's a little too coincidental. It could be a coincidence, but I'm not so sure.

Don't knoe about advanced notice but you are right about the Visa and Mastercard thing. With is really odd to me as why they care so much.

 

[Crashbullet]

why they care so much.

It all started in 2020 with prnhub, MC was indirectly accused of silence, read the backstory, since then they (V MC) have become very sensitive to such things and Australian feminists have taken advantage of this.

 

[frodoneo]

Can someone summarize the story for me.. I tried to follow but its like going in every direction.. So he has a GF and I assume its his 'mom' that gets into some accident or someone tries to kill her. So her sister calls MC to visit home.. he goes with his gf and basically he meets so many other people and somehow has a past with everyone? is that it kind of?

 

[demonking69:(]

Can someone summarize the story for me.. I tried to follow but its like going in every direction.. So he has a GF and I assume its his 'mom' that gets into some accident or someone tries to kill her. So her sister calls MC to visit home.. he goes with his gf and basically he meets so many other people and somehow has a past with everyone? is that it kind of?

that was the story but it is all changed now

 

[yossa999]

Can someone summarize the story for me.. I tried to follow but its like going in every direction.. So he has a GF and I assume its his 'mom' that gets into some accident or someone tries to kill her. So her sister calls MC to visit home.. he goes with his gf and basically he meets so many other people and somehow has a past with everyone? is that it kind of?

Something like that, except that Helen isn't his mom and Leia isn't his sister. All his family was killed in mafia wars when he was a kid.
And yes, he had a past with all these characters, since he lived there until he ran away.

 

[Icekatana]

Honestly, I don't want to sound rude, but are you serious?

Do you think the subtle hint from Patreon (when they took the fuck out WiAB page) wasn't enough for someone whose business depends on these platforms? Almost all AVN developers were talking this year about that, that platforms will strengthen the implementation of rules for regulating adult content, since payment processors are putting pressure on them. They were talking about this last year too. Everyone who was curious about the topic could see where this was all heading.

And only resident "customers", like little children, do not see elementary cause and effect connections, for them it's a big surprise. And even now they continue to stomp their little feet here and there and demand "Let me fuck that loli-looking sister over there, Steam doesn't care anyway. What? No? Bad, bad dev, baka..." While Steam retires ~10-20 adult games a day, especially those that have any hint of I- or R-content in the title or description.

I'm serious about this being a Visa and Mastercard created problem, where they want to tell people how they can spend their money. They are acting like a quasi-governmental authority by dictating morality and thinking that they know what's best for people. Their job should be to facilitate payments without prejudice. They should only refuse if it involves something illegal.

As for the second part about Steam potentially warning adult developers of impending change, I'm less serious about that. That was more idle speculation. I bring it up because, until very recently, there was no reason to believe that Steam would crater to payment processors (Visa, Mastercard and PayPal). They did their own thing until last week. It's possible that Ocean changed his mind on his own after he stated that the twins were still related. It's also possible that he got a hint from Steam that changes might be coming. Patreon is one thing, but I don't think many people saw Steam bending the knee, at least for now.

 

[yossa999]

I'm serious about this being a Visa and Mastercard created problem, where they want to tell people how they can spend their money. They are acting like a quasi-governmental authority by dictating morality and thinking that they know what's best for people. Their job should be to facilitate payments without prejudice. They should only refuse if it involves something illegal.

As for the second part about Steam potentially warning adult developers of impending change, I'm less serious about that. That was more idle speculation. I bring it up because, until very recently, there was no reason to believe that Steam would crater to payment processors (Visa, Mastercard and PayPal). They did their own thing until last week. It's possible that Ocean changed his mind on his own after he stated that the twins were still related. It's also possible that he got a hint from Steam that changes might be coming. Patreon is one thing, but I don't think many people saw Steam bending the knee, at least for now.

Well, I've heard from more than one developer that they were sure that this tendency will not stop at Patreon alone. So taking care of problematic content in advance seemed quite logical without any inside information.

By the way, now Itch can be added there too. And these guys decided to go further and hide all adult content
Good that Ocean abandoned itch long time ago.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I'm serious about this being a Visa and Mastercard created problem, where they want to tell people how they can spend their money. They are acting like a quasi-governmental authority by dictating morality and thinking that they know what's best for people. Their job should be to facilitate payments without prejudice. They should only refuse if it involves something illegal.

As for the second part about Steam potentially warning adult developers of impending change, I'm less serious about that. That was more idle speculation. I bring it up because, until very recently, there was no reason to believe that Steam would crater to payment processors (Visa, Mastercard and PayPal). They did their own thing until last week. It's possible that Ocean changed his mind on his own after he stated that the twins were still related. It's also possible that he got a hint from Steam that changes might be coming. Patreon is one thing, but I don't think many people saw Steam bending the knee, at least for now.

I agree! This event could set a horrible precedent.

 

[Crashbullet]

Suddenly, the Japanese government came out against V and MC for interfering in the hentai game industry.
"With us is a sword, a bow, my axe" and the Japanese with hentai)


But seriously, if anyone has contact with the ocean, tell him to pay attention to Telegram, there you can set up a bot for a monthly subscription, etc., we need to start advertising it little by little, I don’t like the trend that adult sites have started to refuse adult games in a race.

 

[Turret]

I'm serious about this being a Visa and Mastercard created problem, where they want to tell people how they can spend their money. They are acting like a quasi-governmental authority by dictating morality and thinking that they know what's best for people. Their job should be to facilitate payments without prejudice. They should only refuse if it involves something illegal.

As for the second part about Steam potentially warning adult developers of impending change, I'm less serious about that. That was more idle speculation. I bring it up because, until very recently, there was no reason to believe that Steam would crater to payment processors (Visa, Mastercard and PayPal). They did their own thing until last week. It's possible that Ocean changed his mind on his own after he stated that the twins were still related. It's also possible that he got a hint from Steam that changes might be coming. Patreon is one thing, but I don't think many people saw Steam bending the knee, at least for now.

Well, I've heard from more than one developer that they were sure that this tendency will not stop at Patreon alone. So taking care of problematic content in advance seemed quite logical without any inside information.

By the way, now Itch can be added there too. And these guys decided to go further and hide all adult content
Good that Ocean abandoned itch long time ago.

While V and MC are a.. bigots, who like nothing more than to feel like the Kings and Queens of the world, wanna bet in the not too far future e.g. a big studio or publisher will "suddenly" go into AVN, OnlyFans and other stuff of this kind? It would not surprise me, since now that it becomes more and more known that you can make a profit with such products, there will be firms wanting a piece of the cake.

 

[Maviarab]

Can someone summarize the story for me.. I tried to follow but its like going in every direction.. So he has a GF and I assume its his 'mom' that gets into some accident or someone tries to kill her. So her sister calls MC to visit home.. he goes with his gf and basically he meets so many other people and somehow has a past with everyone? is that it kind of?

It really isn't that difficult to follow or understand....

 

[AkinaKoske]

Guys, who has where it all began version ch 2 beta. I'm just collecting old version archives for a patch.

 

[RNasc4444]

Can someone summarize the story for me

1. Mafia kills family 1 and family 2 because Mafia.
2. Mafia spares the children of family 1 and family 2 and gives them to family 3. Family 3 is Mafia.
3. Children from family 1 and family 2 grow up with child of family 3. Family 3 is very close with family 4. Family 4 is also Mafia.
4. Male child from family 2 runs away from family 3 as a teen because Mafia.
5. Male now adult from family 2 gets a call after 8 years, from family 1 female and returns home when fat lady from family 3 has accident. Accident presumably caused by Mafia.
6. Male adult can't stay unless Mafia says so because Mafia.
7. Male adult also can't pork female members of family 1, 3 or 4 because rules of Mafia.
8. Mafia determines who can marry who...because Mafia?
9. Female from family 1 is self made and successful in crime doing because piggybacking from Mafia.
10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state Rules of Mafia.
12. FBI is "investigating" Mafia.
13. Other shenanigans happening like a cult of losers with shitty tattoos that are lowlife criminals but none of it matters because it's not Mafia.

I think that about sums it up.

 

[El_Magnifico]

1. Mafia kills family 1 and family 2 because Mafia.
2. Mafia spares the children of family 1 and family 2 and gives them to family 3. Family 3 is Mafia.
3. Children from family 1 and family 2 grow up with child of family 3. Family 3 is very close with family 4. Family 4 is also Mafia.
4. Male child from family 2 runs away from family 3 as a teen because Mafia.
5. Male now adult from family 2 gets a call after 8 years, from family 1 female and returns home when fat lady from family 3 has accident. Accident presumably caused by Mafia.
6. Male adult can't stay unless Mafia says so because Mafia.
7. Male adult also can't pork female members of family 1, 3 or 4 because rules of Mafia.
8. Mafia determines who can marry who...because Mafia?
9. Female from family 1 is self made and successful in crime doing because piggybacking from Mafia.
10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state Rules of Mafia.
12. FBI is "investigating" Mafia.
13. Other shenanigans happening like a cult of losers with shitty tattoos that are lowlife criminals but none of it matters because it's not Mafia.

I think that about sums it up.

Fucking Mafia, they ruined Mafia

 

[X2JZcf]

1. Mafia kills family 1 and family 2 because Mafia.
2. Mafia spares the children of family 1 and family 2 and gives them to family 3. Family 3 is Mafia.
3. Children from family 1 and family 2 grow up with child of family 3. Family 3 is very close with family 4. Family 4 is also Mafia.
4. Male child from family 2 runs away from family 3 as a teen because Mafia.
5. Male now adult from family 2 gets a call after 8 years, from family 1 female and returns home when fat lady from family 3 has accident. Accident presumably caused by Mafia.
6. Male adult can't stay unless Mafia says so because Mafia.
7. Male adult also can't pork female members of family 1, 3 or 4 because rules of Mafia.
8. Mafia determines who can marry who...because Mafia?
9. Female from family 1 is self made and successful in crime doing because piggybacking from Mafia.
10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state Rules of Mafia.
12. FBI is "investigating" Mafia.
13. Other shenanigans happening like a cult of losers with shitty tattoos that are lowlife criminals but none of it matters because it's not Mafia.

I think that about sums it up.

Katie's friend group isn't the mafia. Your review is incomplete.

 

[Dingolingo]

10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state Rules of Mafia.

for fucks sake, nasc.....

"10.5 - male from family 2 asks female from family 1 for a loan and instantly gets it because point 9... and mafia."

i'm utterly disappointed in your lack of care for the fucking game. jesus fucking christ!

/s

 

[Maviarab]

Katie's friend group isn't the mafia. Your review is incomplete.

That we know of....