VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[X2JZcf]

a little more but you will get your NTR scene I am sure

No... My main saves are with NTR off

 

[Maviarab]

I wasn't talking about the unused render. She talks to MC on the phone and it very much looks like she's looking at someone in their old apartment. She also talks to him about what they did in the cab (even though the render is unused). Here:

Spoiler: Miru phone

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She also says that she's tired after she hangs up. Was she talking to herself? Perhaps. Even if she isn't looking at anyone else, she does talk about off-screen NTR that she did. So, yes and no, like I said.

People thinking there is more to this and someone in the background is pure copium from the NTR try-hards....

....nothing more.

 

[RNasc4444]

People thinking there is more to this and someone in the background is pure copium from the NTR try-hards....

....nothing more.

Well I'll be damned. Gotta admit it's suprising to see we're not all on the same page about this...

I'm far from an NTR guy but I'm fully convinced there was someone with Miru in the apartment. There is a reason for the 2 different scenes depending on what path you're on. If no NTR/cheating she's cooking a meal with nothing but an apron on. She seems bubbly and cheery with all the time in the world for Willi. On the other route you can tell it's night time, she seems colder and more dismissive and I doubt she's talking to herself, announcing how tired she is...

Or maybe I'm misremembering. haven't touched this in quite a while.

 

[RNasc4444]

all that is true but it does not add up to her character, Miru simply don't have a reason to lie or cheat rigth now and to do so would go against everything we know about her. Is possible that there is something she has not telling William but I don't think it is NTR related but a way that Ocean can intruduce this elements in the story.

Yeah, I am left with the same impression. I don't think that the Ch4 we got was the Ch4 Ocean always had in mind and much was cut. changed and postponded to accomodate de new paradigma. I feel much of this on the Leia scene in the start of the new update it lacks the emotinal punch that I am sure it would have in the original script, some scenes with Katie and the Miru path this update also feels like some things were changed.

I too thought I knew anything about Miru until that bar scene with Emilio came up... She acted like a completely different person there imo.

I've said it since the first time I played chapter 4. Katie is not the same person in chapter 4 that is in chapters 1-3 and Miru in chapter 4 is not the same Miru we see in chapters 1-3.

Yes we all know why this is. I get it. But let's not try and pretend there aren't very noticeable changes in the characters. I wish these changes happened a little more gradually over time and over a few updatesbut alas... It is what it is.

 

[Maviarab]

I too thought I knew anything about Miru until that bar scene with Emilio came up... She acted like a completely different person there imo.

I've said it since the first time I played chapter 4. Katie is not the same person in chapter 4 that is in chapters 1-3 and Miru in chapter 4 is not the same Miru we see in chapters 1-3.

Yes we all know why this is. I get it. But let's not try and pretend there aren't very noticeable changes in the characters. I wish these changes happened a little more gradually over time and over a few updatesbut alas... It is what it is.

Sorry, but anyone thinking Miru was suddenly 'out of character' really hasn't been paying attention and has been whining in here for far too long.

She has always been a shady and dangerous character...always...from OG through to new Ch.4. Nothing has changed except we've seen what she is/capable of now. If that surprised people after all the previous hints and dialogues...I'm really not sure what to say....

As for the dreaded 3 letters, I'm with LHD, absolutely no reason (yet) for Miru to do anything, especially behind Gigachad's back. Just ridiculous thinking (even if did pick the only need to tell/mention sex and not general fooling around option).

 

[LHDLLB]

Well I'll be damned. Gotta admit it's suprising to see we're not all on the same page about this...

I'm far from an NTR guy but I'm fully convinced there was someone with Miru in the apartment. There is a reason for the 2 different scenes depending on what path you're on. If no NTR/cheating she's cooking a meal with nothing but an apron on. She seems bubbly and cheery with all the time in the world for Willi. On the other route you can tell it's night time, she seems colder and more dismissive and I doubt she's talking to herself, announcing how tired she is...

Or maybe I'm misremembering. haven't touched this in quite a while.

Too be clear I am not saying that there is not anyone in the apart I fully agree on your take here, Miru is certanly not telling William something and can be the case that there is someone there, my point is that Miru has not cheated on William just yet, the scene is for me just a step to the eventual NTR scene that will take place in the story.

I too thought I knew anything about Miru until that bar scene with Emilio came up... She acted like a completely different person there imo.

I've said it since the first time I played chapter 4. Katie is not the same person in chapter 4 that is in chapters 1-3 and Miru in chapter 4 is not the same Miru we see in chapters 1-3.

Yes we all know why this is. I get it. But let's not try and pretend there aren't very noticeable changes in the characters. I wish these changes happened a little more gradually over time and over a few updatesbut alas... It is what it is.

I don't quite agree on this. We always knew that there was more to Miru than just be the perfect girlfiriend and the bar scene only expand her character as did the flashbacks. Katie too was neither in this version or the OG meek and inocent, the thread as a very baised view of her character we just speed up the reveal that Katie is not or was the inocent little not-sister. So while I agree that the chapther as a whole is incosistent in how this unfold I don't see much in the characther themselfes more on how theirn relantionship elvoved or not in this update.

 

[RNasc4444]

I don't quite agree on this. We always knew that there was more to Miru than just be the perfect girlfiriend and the bar scene only expand her character as did the flashbacks. Katie too was neither in this version or the OG meek and inocent, the thread as a very baised view of her character we just speed up the reveal that Katie is not or was the inocent little not-sister. So while I agree that the chapther as a whole is incosistent in how this unfold I don't see much in the characther themselfes more on how theirn relantionship elvoved or not in this update.

Guess we agree to disagree on this one then

 

[Maviarab]

 

[Bloker997]

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oof

 

[txe320]

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Things like that will kill a lot of games, seriously....

 

[NoX Productions]

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Damn, that's rough. If he got cut who had no sex scenes at all then we are all in danger. Athough, Patreon has been having some issues today which they already reported to us creators so maybe it's just a glitch? For me it's showing my statistic all reset back to zero atm

 

[Maviarab]

Damn, that's rough. If he got cut who had no sex scenes at all then we are all in danger. Athough, Patreon has been having some issues today which they already reported to us creators so maybe it's just a glitch? For me it's showing my statistic all reset back to zero atm

He's had an email explaining why. No glitch. He's looking into what he can do (and no, he not stated what their reasons were).

 

[shenlao]

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For some reason, sometimes i thought that those platforms hate Ocean. Since other dev don't have many issue with them like Ocean did.
I think Ocean need hire real-life Miru/Ayua.

 

[yossa999]

For some reason, sometimes i thought that those platforms hate Ocean. Since other dev don't have many issue with them like Ocean did.
I think Ocean need hire real-life Miru/Ayua.

I can immediately think of three developers who abandoned their projects or drastically reduced their activity after being rejected by Steam. So it's not just Ocean.

 

[Tremonia]

For some reason, sometimes i thought that those platforms hate Ocean. Since other dev don't have many issue with them like Ocean did.

He's pretty successful at what he does. That attracts envy. I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to piss him off. And let's not forget all the haters who couldn't handle Ocean reworking the games. It wouldn't be the first time someone broke a toy so no one else could have fun with it.

 

[shenlao]

I can immediately think of three developers who abandoned their projects or drastically reduced their activity after being rejected by Steam. So it's not just Ocean.

i don't know much about other dev that have same fate as Ocean, i just point out how WIAB affect SG's Patreon too (at least this is what i learn from SG's forum). Its kinda like they hate Ocean hahaha

 

[Sherengroth]

so what's different about this rework, is everybody no longer a hypercritical sketchy piece of filth? and yes i'm including the sweet one, she could've told the mc about the "businesses too but despite her so called feelings would keep ton's of important secrets that would be good to know"

 

[Incest games fan]

Where is the incest patch? If there is not, just remove the incest tag on it

 

[yossa999]

Where is the incest patch? If there is not, just remove the incest tag on it

Where did you see the incest tag?

 

[oldmasterxd]

Where is the incest patch? If there is not, just remove the incest tag on it

got removed long ago also summers gone ''INFAMOUS PATH'' etc if you search the story changed alot of times to fit ''new era''