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Turret

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Subjective.

Some things have vastly improved but the old story with Katie is far better than this one.

This one shows her being bullied already so it already makes the MC look like a dick. We didn't find out about her being bullied until the camping trip last time which made her look like the antagonist until that point.

The original made it seem like she was evil and that is why the twins didn't like her. This one makes the twins look twisted and it shows katie is a victim of their bullying so the plot where he keeps trying to paint her as the bad guy doesn't work.

Also his mother was more caring in the original. She's already coming across as dismissive of him here.

Also the MC has been made to look like a massive douche since he got back home. From what he did to the cop when she was a virgin to bullying Katie.

Miru's whole plot has been improved by a ton.
I think the new Kati "how it began" story has not run it´s course. I theorise something like a bang will be coming in a future chapter. Yes, currently teenage Willi and Leia come across as bullies to the majority of people they knew, with few exceptions like Zoey, Stefan, Dana or Gina. And they had a good or at least ok relationship with the rest of the family EXCEPT Kati.
It is also established in both new and old WIAB that it was something Kati did which drove Willi to flee Wollust.

Considering that the High School Twins currently come across in hindsight as tough Jerks and Bullies, who took punishment quite stoically, what the hell has Kati done that Willi fled the city by night and fog and Leia contemplated it too and was only talked out of it by Willi?
That cannot be just Kati spilling she had seen Willi snogging with his Sis, esp. since it is established like in the old version that Dylan already knew the Twins loved each other more than they should. And while he did not like it, he even lied for them because he is of the opinion that you simply cannot control who you fall in love with.
And what can be read between the lines, neither Leia nor Willi have ever forgiven Kati for whar she did back then. It simply must be big and probably not a single deed.
Another point to remember is that Kati has to be pushed to help examine what happened to their mother. No matter whar happened before, the Twins want to solve the puzzle of their Mom´s "accident", whereas Kati is rather eager to continue the old feud. Even the "No War event" Kati is called out by Miru, why her feud with Willi is more important for her than to help solve the case.

And Gina´s tipp to Miru how to learn about the history of the feud between the Twins and Kati shows the bullying was not one-sided, even if Kati´s view might be a bit closer to what happened. So Willi and Leia´s view of the old times has merrit too. But one thing is sure it was a serious clusterfuck.
 
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Hello Oceanlab,

Very good quality and very good setup for the characters. Also intriguing story. It makes you sau damn it when the update enda. Congradulations.

I am not a fan of NTR but if its only with girls like some of the girls can be interested in you therefore can have 1v1 time with Miru as long as no male is involved with either provided that ofcourse you satisfy them both. They are loyal to you.
BUT is it the case here? Or if we select open relationship, it is certain that other males will be involved with our girls? Because, when I turn the NTR on, MC stated that he is not jeleous of Miru being seen by another male. So that means he is ok with doing things with other guys to his girl? Or his girl to other guys?

Also, in waLkthrough, which are NTR points?
 

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Yeah, she found out he was banging his twin sister.
As I mentioned in my post above, it cannot have been "just" this. Dylan already knew and even lied for them. Kati finding this out was a major piece of it, but it cannot be all.
 

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thanks to the spoiler in the Ch.4.5 SG, we now know who will become the founders of the ZPR:
Z - Zane family
P - Elena Petrova
R - Donna Revera
It looks like Donna and her lawyer Elena Petrova will play on the side of the Zane family or make a deal with the Zains
 

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Hello,

So, this is the first Dev log of Chapter 3.

has released a few days ago, and it will be available here for the Cross Release tiers after it leaves the BETA. (End of December).

Alrighty... WiAB Chapter 3 is a very important Chapter that will introduce some major storylines.
The focus here lies on Freddy's barn.
I spent some time designing the first modules of it, but there's still a little bit left.
There's also one problem that I'm about to solve in the next month. None of the environments can be rendered properly.
The Barn environment is soo big that it kills the VRAM with a single character being present.
Here's a little preview of the barn (Day/Night)


This is a very important environment, that will play a role through the entire first season.
The other environment is this one

This is just a test render, and it also dropped the VRAM.
I think you can assume which character will be introduced in Chapter 3.

As I said in an earlier Dev Log, I'm going to buy an A6000 in December. (This solves the VRAM issue.)
However... There's a rumor that the new A6000 Lovelace is going to be around 10k€ in Europe.
If that's the case, I will buy the older A6000 for less than half the price. I will lose some speed, but I just need the VRAM.
The 3090 that is currently used here, will be added to an animation PC that I'm going to order in January. That PC will only render animations, which is going to be a huge help.
(The old animation PC's CPU/MB can't handle a 3090, and the 2080Ti in there is too baby to render the scenes.)

This Dev Log is just here to kick off the development start of Chapter 3.

There's gonna be a bump in December. As I'm moving across the country. If a Dev Log happens to fall on the moving date, it might come out a little later.

In the next Dev Log, I will introduce a character that appeared in the old WiAB. Show some comparisons, etc.


- Ocean

High RES previews are attached below.
 

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Just to confirm some things, I wrote a question on patreon and on the discord, since Ocean had talked about a 2.5, and this dev log talks directly about chapter 3.
 

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Just to confirm some things, I wrote a question on patreon and on the discord, since Ocean had talked about a 2.5, and this dev log talks directly about chapter 3.
Did he say anything about Dana?! Will we even see her in Chapter 3 :HideThePain:
 

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Summary of Ocean's answer, for WIAB, the whole first season will be full chapters, if necessary in the next (s) he will do the half chapter thing to keep the count down (after all each half chapter seen in SG is the same or larger than chapter 2 of WIAB).
 

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Hello,

So, this is the first Dev log of Chapter 3.

has released a few days ago, and it will be available here for the Cross Release tiers after it leaves the BETA. (End of December).

Alrighty... WiAB Chapter 3 is a very important Chapter that will introduce some major storylines.
The focus here lies on Freddy's barn.
I spent some time designing the first modules of it, but there's still a little bit left.
There's also one problem that I'm about to solve in the next month. None of the environments can be rendered properly.
The Barn environment is soo big that it kills the VRAM with a single character being present.
Here's a little preview of the barn (Day/Night)


This is a very important environment, that will play a role through the entire first season.
The other environment is this one

This is just a test render, and it also dropped the VRAM.
I think you can assume which character will be introduced in Chapter 3.

As I said in an earlier Dev Log, I'm going to buy an A6000 in December. (This solves the VRAM issue.)
However... There's a rumor that the new A6000 Lovelace is going to be around 10k€ in Europe.
If that's the case, I will buy the older A6000 for less than half the price. I will lose some speed, but I just need the VRAM.
The 3090 that is currently used here, will be added to an animation PC that I'm going to order in January. That PC will only render animations, which is going to be a huge help.
(The old animation PC's CPU/MB can't handle a 3090, and the 2080Ti in there is too baby to render the scenes.)

This Dev Log is just here to kick off the development start of Chapter 3.

There's gonna be a bump in December. As I'm moving across the country. If a Dev Log happens to fall on the moving date, it might come out a little later.

In the next Dev Log, I will introduce a character that appeared in the old WiAB. Show some comparisons, etc.


- Ocean

High RES previews are attached below.
interesting
 
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Turret

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Considering the sneak peak render I think we will meet Abigail or Dana, maybe both (and Monica again). But what is also interesting is that Leia and Willi are at the Police wearing the same clothes they had on when they drove to Freddy. Leia still wears the "lent" sport outfit she chose in part to tease the MC. Considering that Leia generally chooses her clothes fitting to the situation and is more on the elegant side unless showing Willi what he misses, this is remarkable.
The Twins going to the Police like that is either a spur of the moment decision or really important, else Leia would surely have changed outfits.
 
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Reading carefully the dev log, I had a doubt...
If both environments literally eat the hardware available today, what work will be possible to advance between now and when Ocean will be able to acquire his dreamed A6000?
I imagine that this next month he will only write the script, make storyboards, and not much more...
On the other hand, I strongly welcome the fact that the number of patreons has risen so much, it is a boost for a game that always rows from behind.
 

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In the post itself it says that it is a test render, but that the location (police station) was going to be important in the chapter (the most important being the barn).
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I read the passage about the test render too, but I find this test render quite elaborate and I am pretty sure Ocean has e.g. Leia presetted in various outfits. So why this one here?
 

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I read the passage about the test render too, but I find this test render quite elaborate and I am pretty sure Ocean has e.g. Leia presetted in various outfits. So why this one here?
When it tells you that it is a test render, it is implicitly indicating that if it is used, it may change. So, take it with caution, at least until the next preview.
Speculation is always allowed, that's what thread chats are usually about.
It seems possible that it could be a short visit on the way to the barn? yes, absolutely, but I wouldn't say for sure until a little later in the development of the chapter itself.
 
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