Fapmaister
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I didn't... no matter who is wearing them, only women's underwear is referred to as panties. And the word is always plural. I don't believe William is wearing women's underwear, is he? That might upset some people to learn haha. Whatever the case, the writing is still awkward.
I responded seriously on the off-chance you weren't joking. I can never tell on this site.
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No.
Correct.
That is the mother pregnant with one of the Frohn sisters
Same hairstyle and facial features.
RNasc4444
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I think Vic is from the Lasagna family. And Maja is the eldest daughter of the Canneloni family. These two families are offshoots of the older Ragu family.
Something must have happened to those families and poor Maja and Vic were left alone to fend for themselves.
BobTheDuck
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It could be a less glamorous Elena. In SG, Mrs Frohn was in her 40s when she had kids. Here, they're just out of college, 20 years before SG.
Edit: We also know that Elena was good friends with Amber.
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Miranha157
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New game, new story, new characters... If the woman is a copy of Vic and you can't even tell, then go ahead and keep thinking the girl next to Amber is their mom KKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
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I think that to say that something of importance wasn't lost is a stretch. This chapter suffers from a huge tone wiplash. The reasons as to why was such a taboo for William have something with Leia then or now is really... not great, same for Katie. We lost the whole family dynamic with was something that I liked, not because of incest but because it add weight to it all. Some characters behavious make a lot less sense now, I really hope Ocean goes back and change the first 3 chapters.So after finishing my playthrough, I absolutely can't understand that dumpster fire starting here about the removed taboo shit.
Nothing important was lost or will ever be missed. Especially not from newer players, players that don't carry that mess/bias of old luggage from the old game around.
From the reaction of you guys here, I was concerned about a total clusterfuck of a story. But I was proven wrong.
Even the old WIAB had a strong tendency to swing into the direction of a crime story, the framing for the rape or the final cinematic in the court.
One of the loudest crybabies here - forgot to quote that shit - has complained about Miru was enabling thug mode.
Miru was batshit crazy in the old game and had connection to some/her(?) kind of Yakuza family. At least one trait of her was portet over ...
It was mentioned that Miru and William had meet after/in prison, in Ch3 or earlier - IIRC.
The only thing I just ask myself is, do you guys even spend a fraction of a braincell and think about what is going on in the dialogs? Or are you just drooling over the one render after the another?
Just drop this adventure, it will just be wasted time.
Make your peace with the thought that this ship has sailed away and has sunk.
We are not talking about patching one or another scene back into the game. You have to think about the workload you get to catch up with this sort of stuff, and for what? From now on, including the present chapter, all future chapters have to be rewritten to force that taboo shit into it, until a point that your patch will alienate the patched game compare to original to the point of fubar.
Let's be honest with ourselves, we are not anymore in the early 2000s/2010s. The complete taboo stuff was the real shit, back in the AIF times, but that horse is dead, get it finally, stop beating it and move on.
If you really want to patch something back into the game. Build a patch to restore the cinematic back into the game from the start that has to be dropped because of the music license issues. That was something I have really missed.
On the first glance I recognised Noji, the reporter bitch Nicole, Sashas Mother - her used model is the same as used in the old WIAB, just without being pregnant, not 100% sure about this, to much time past ...
Well, time to get a replay of the book club scene in SG to find the other ones.
Nope, it will not work on the gallery because there is noting from chapter 4 present to be unlocked. Gallery version chapter 3 final.
I don't think it ruins the story. In fact I think that is better to have none at all than the wink, wink that SG does. But it removed a pilar for the story and Ocean response was to expand the mob side of things, is not something that I hate but is a different direction for the story. One that we have to wait to see if has legs of its own. I think that Ocean did a great job on change course on a moving ship, but it is felt.
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See it for the good side, if they hated it enough we have better chances of them finally moving on from this game and this thread will not be polluted with so many crybabies and complainers saying bullshit nonstop.So after finishing my playthrough, I absolutely can't understand that dumpster fire starting here about the removed taboo shit.
Nothing important was lost or will ever be missed. Especially not from newer players, players that don't carry that mess/bias of old luggage from the old game around.
From the reaction of you guys here, I was concerned about a total clusterfuck of a story. But I was proven wrong.
Even the old WIAB had a strong tendency to swing into the direction of a crime story, the framing for the rape or the final cinematic in the court.
One of the loudest crybabies here - forgot to quote that shit - has complained about Miru was enabling thug mode.
Miru was batshit crazy in the old game and had connection to some/her(?) kind of Yakuza family. At least one trait of her was portet over ...
It was mentioned that Miru and William had meet after/in prison, in Ch3 or earlier - IIRC.
The only thing I just ask myself is, do you guys even spend a fraction of a braincell and think about what is going on in the dialogs? Or are you just drooling over the one render after the another?
Just drop this adventure, it will just be wasted time.
Make your peace with the thought that this ship has sailed away and has sunk.
We are not talking about patching one or another scene back into the game. You have to think about the workload you get to catch up with this sort of stuff, and for what? From now on, including the present chapter, all future chapters have to be rewritten to force that taboo shit into it, until a point that your patch will alienate the patched game compare to original to the point of fubar.
Let's be honest with ourselves, we are not anymore in the early 2000s/2010s. The complete taboo stuff was the real shit, back in the AIF times, but that horse is dead, get it finally, stop beating it and move on.
If you really want to patch something back into the game. Build a patch to restore the cinematic back into the game from the start that has to be dropped because of the music license issues. That was something I have really missed.
On the first glance I recognised Noji, the reporter bitch Nicole, Sashas Mother - her used model is the same as used in the old WIAB, just without being pregnant, not 100% sure about this, to much time past ...
Well, time to get a replay of the book club scene in SG to find the other ones.
Nope, it will not work on the gallery because there is noting from chapter 4 present to be unlocked. Gallery version chapter 3 final.
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Kond
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I think the complete opposite, i liked the way it was before of course, but imo, looking from a story perspective makes a lot more sense the way it is now. Before, despite the taboo, the moment they decided to engage with each other the danger of it would end, they are consenting adults and once they decided to leave the house no one could do much to stop them....but not now, it doesnt matter if they are consenting adults, doesnt matter if they leave the house, doesnt matter if they decide to move out of town, they cannot be together if they dont deal with the danger first, if they decide keep secret of the relationship they are still in danger and the families can decide to marry any of them...
Dealing with the barriers to be together will be a crucial part of the story and will strengthen the relationships in a way that the taboo would not. I personally think this new way makes more sense.
Miranha157
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Emilia was a porn actress, she can be any fair-skinned blonde with small breasts in WiAB.
Emilia:
Suspicions:
Vic:
Frohn:
It doesn't take a genius to figure it out...
BobTheDuck
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Out of reacts, but 100% this. Willi's being watched and photographed with girls, mafia are telling girls at gunpoint not to go near him... it makes the danger of being caught the fear.
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Maja's mother gave birth to Maja when she was in her 40s.
The time gap between WIAB and SG is around 20-25 years and Maja is in her early 20s.
So Maja's mother should be in her late 30s or early 40s.
BobTheDuck
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Yes, count. Who is 40 years old? The one with Amber is one of Amber's college friends, they're in their final year.
Nicole the one with the glasses is Nicole the reporter. She's named. ANd she's trying to report. The only way the blonde with the big breasts is the Frohn is if she is mutton dressed as lamb. Which happens in AVNs
But - at this point in the story she's got a toddler called Maja, and she's soon to be pregnant with Vic. Just like who I think is Elena will have to get pregnant with Sasha soone, and Amber will have to get pregnant with Bella and her sister pretty quick. There's only ~ 20 years between WiaB and SG, and some of the are older than 18 (Maja).
Do you really think MRS Frohn left Maja at home with her husband to go buying drinks for strangers?
I think Ocean just said around 20 years earlier - 25 and WiaB preganancies will result in older people. Depends on the time fram the game covers though, if we get fast forwards...
But yes, 35 to 40. I won't claim I didn't fall for the same misake though, the look is the same basic model, But Ocean reused Scarlet's Old Wiab model for Vic in the first place, pretty much.