Why does anyone think documents etc had to be forged? The Zanes could've gone the legal route in "adopting" the two orphans. Even if that was ultimately fulfilling the wishes of the mob or whatever, the approving agencies wouldn't necessarily know that.
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WiAB - Chapter 4 - Post Release
Hello,
I'm currently uploading the update to MEGA and Mediafire... Since I've left Berlin, my Internet is... well... not very good. It will take about another 2 hours until I have uploaded the MAC, Android, and PC/Linux version.
First of all, I extended the subscription of "every" active Supporter a few days ago by 14 days. "Every" is in quotes because SS makes it extremely hard to find you all.
I used the detailed Search and sorted by active, which showed me about 196 people. However, there were about 70 more that I didn't find. I had to do it manually, one by one.
If you're one of them and for some reason yours didn't get extended, and you were a subscriber from before the 6th, shoot me a message.
Important: I asked a friend of mine who is a supporter, and he said he didn't get any notification at all. Just check the date when it runs out.
7 Days later.
In previous logs, I've mentioned the reason why it had to come out a week later on SubscribeStar...
The initial sales on both websites are really important, and let's see how this turned out.
It's been seven days since the update was released on Steam and GOG, and for transparency's sake... Let's take a look.
The goal was to sell 5000 copies before the 3-month mark. That's about the amount that puts me in the green and pays the licenses and assets for the following two Chapters.
We reached 5,000 copies in just 2 days and surpassed 10,000 copies today. (Steam only). I expected the 10K copies maybe after 6-12 months.
On GOG, it has sold about 400 copies until now. It's doing much better than I expected on Steam.
To put this into perspective... Let's say WiAB is responsible for 50% of SS's support.
In 7 days, we've accumulated as much support through Steam and GOG that it would take SS at its current state, about 5 years to get even. (This is with Steam/GOG's 30% cut)
That's why the release was so important, and it gives WIAB a solid foundation to continue.
But eventually, Steam and GOG will fall off.
SubscribeStar is the most important page for WIAB.
SS will eventually get the Blender Short-stories, as well as access to all Treats. (There are going to be 2 exclusive Steam/GOG Treats by the end of Season 1, tho.)
Chapter 5 will be available in beta stage, here on SS, 2 weeks prior to its release on Steam and GOG.
The big change.
Surely, some may have heard about the big changes to a particular aspect of the game.
I totally understand the people who are frustrated, but it shouldn't have come as a surprise.
SubscribeStar has adjusted its TOS in the last year, so the decision had to be made.
WiAB has to be future-proof.
I'm sorry if that disappoints you, and I'm really sorry for those who supported the game only for that...
WiAB and I have gone through hell together, and for the sake of my mental health, I can never go through that again.
There are still many creators doing great work in that particular niche, and I encourage you to support them if that's what you're after.
My path has simply changed.
Thank you to those who like the direction the project has taken and who support the project as it grows and evolves.
Now, WIAB has a foundation. A giant well of potential that goes far beyond what it used to be before the rework.
Creating and writing the last update was genuinely awesome, and with what's coming in Chapter 5, I'll definitely have a blast again.
Future updates will be shorter. I will return to my usual 2000-2500 render update.
I'll share more details about this on Sunday.
Hello,
I'm currently uploading the update to MEGA and Mediafire... Since I've left Berlin, my Internet is... well... not very good. It will take about another 2 hours until I have uploaded the MAC, Android, and PC/Linux version.
First of all, I extended the subscription of "every" active Supporter a few days ago by 14 days. "Every" is in quotes because SS makes it extremely hard to find you all.
I used the detailed Search and sorted by active, which showed me about 196 people. However, there were about 70 more that I didn't find. I had to do it manually, one by one.
If you're one of them and for some reason yours didn't get extended, and you were a subscriber from before the 6th, shoot me a message.
Important: I asked a friend of mine who is a supporter, and he said he didn't get any notification at all. Just check the date when it runs out.
7 Days later.
In previous logs, I've mentioned the reason why it had to come out a week later on SubscribeStar...
The initial sales on both websites are really important, and let's see how this turned out.
It's been seven days since the update was released on Steam and GOG, and for transparency's sake... Let's take a look.
The goal was to sell 5000 copies before the 3-month mark. That's about the amount that puts me in the green and pays the licenses and assets for the following two Chapters.
We reached 5,000 copies in just 2 days and surpassed 10,000 copies today. (Steam only). I expected the 10K copies maybe after 6-12 months.
On GOG, it has sold about 400 copies until now. It's doing much better than I expected on Steam.
To put this into perspective... Let's say WiAB is responsible for 50% of SS's support.
In 7 days, we've accumulated as much support through Steam and GOG that it would take SS at its current state, about 5 years to get even. (This is with Steam/GOG's 30% cut)
That's why the release was so important, and it gives WIAB a solid foundation to continue.
But eventually, Steam and GOG will fall off.
SubscribeStar is the most important page for WIAB.
SS will eventually get the Blender Short-stories, as well as access to all Treats. (There are going to be 2 exclusive Steam/GOG Treats by the end of Season 1, tho.)
Chapter 5 will be available in beta stage, here on SS, 2 weeks prior to its release on Steam and GOG.
The big change.
Surely, some may have heard about the big changes to a particular aspect of the game.
I totally understand the people who are frustrated, but it shouldn't have come as a surprise.
SubscribeStar has adjusted its TOS in the last year, so the decision had to be made.
WiAB has to be future-proof.
I'm sorry if that disappoints you, and I'm really sorry for those who supported the game only for that...
WiAB and I have gone through hell together, and for the sake of my mental health, I can never go through that again.
There are still many creators doing great work in that particular niche, and I encourage you to support them if that's what you're after.
My path has simply changed.
Thank you to those who like the direction the project has taken and who support the project as it grows and evolves.
Now, WIAB has a foundation. A giant well of potential that goes far beyond what it used to be before the rework.
Creating and writing the last update was genuinely awesome, and with what's coming in Chapter 5, I'll definitely have a blast again.
Future updates will be shorter. I will return to my usual 2000-2500 render update.
I'll share more details about this on Sunday.
- Ocean
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Because Patreon ans SS dosen't diferenciate incest by law or blood. Step sister or sister. William and Leia aren't adopted, they aren't a nuclear family, they can't be.
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SS is even more vague in definition than Patreon... and that's saying something.
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You're disregarding how rigorous the adoption process is. This I know myself because a coworker of mine adopted a kid. I even volunteered to be a character witness if necessary. The Zanes aren't a clean family. If nothing else because they are associated with the Arano's. The state would never give them custody of 2 children from 2 different families that were slaughtered. You'd think these would be high profile media cases too.
But don't mind me. I'm letting common sense get in the way of mafia porn logic reasons again. My bad.
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Isn't it more effective to blackmail/threaten/bribe someone in the appropriate office to gain custody?Honestly, it's the simplest thing for a mafia family to forge documents. This is a lazy excuse for why it doesn't make sense. Official ID? I only got one when I needed a passport. I don't drive. Where I live, a natural born citizen only gets a birth certificate. Proving I am me is hard. I'm self employed, so none of the financial stuff eve really ties me down. Until I hit 18, there was nothing other than the birth certificate. And, yeah, the birth certificate has no photo to ID me for obvious reasons
All this mess is because there shouldn't be any legal kinship between the Zanes
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How do you think undocumented people do all those things for decades? How do you think people sidestep the law?
I can honestly say that my bank account was based on my birth certificate. THere was no phot ID, I didn't have one, I wasn't 18 yet. I got a loan without a photo ID. I don't own a home (neither does Willi). I have a business, without having a photo ID. I'm employed by two other businesses that neither of which needed a photo ID.
When the sole thing that says I'm me is a birth certificate without any real proof that it's mine, letters being sent to my place of residence etc. it's pretty damn easy for anyone to be me. You could be me. Wait are you me? I Don't have proof you're not. And no I'm not undocumented, and I live in the western world.
That you think it's such a major issue when almost every crime story we see in film or computer games has plausibly faked identities, well you're being obtuse. It's actually quite easy in parts of the world. That William doesn't pull out his ID or birthcertificate in the game doesn't mean that they don't exist. And there's nothing saying there weren't crime moles in the police, just like the feds have agents in Leia's club. This is basic stuff in crime stories.
Man, I actually admitted that the biggest problem is:
So that is me agreeing with THAT part of your commentary. Can it be written better? Yes. Is the old story the only possible way to write? No. I don't see what is challenging about this to understand.
That's not so hard to grasp. The new plotline is flawed. So was the old one. This new plotline is the one Ocean has to fix, as the old one is abandoned.
And riling up "you critics"? Well, I enjoy the game. Should I accuse you of riling up the fans? The internet is big enough for differences of opinion. As far as me having no answers, sure I could keep replying to you, but what then? You won't admit any logic other than your own.
100% but you know what people will reply? Snarky mafia rulez bullsheet. If people what a story about criminals to follow all the official/legal ways of doing business ...I wonder how they even react to the news and politics ...but I'd best not go there
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So WiAB S1CH5 will only be release after SG S2CH1 release right? What was Oceans usual release time frame before this big update?
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For WIAB? one a year... but it is to be hoped that this will now improve.
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For once that would be a realistic move by the mafia XD100% but you know what people will reply? Snarky mafia rulez bullsheet. If people what a story about criminals to follow all the official/legal ways of doing business ...I wonder how they even react to the news and politics ...but I'd best not go there
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1st Steam Update is out.
Alle Events > Events zu Where it all Began - Season 1 >
Small Fixes - #1
- Fixed a few renders.
- Fixed a ton of spelling and grammar errors throughout the game. (More to come.)
- Rearranged some renders.
Previously, I added an outline to the text to make it easier to read.
Please report bugs, etc., through Discord and the bug-report channel.
A big thanks to Chugworth for a whole bunch of fixes.
Don't ask, i won't upload it with all the bitching.
Alle Events > Events zu Where it all Began - Season 1 >
Small Fixes - #1
- Fixed a few renders.
- Fixed a ton of spelling and grammar errors throughout the game. (More to come.)
- Rearranged some renders.
Previously, I added an outline to the text to make it easier to read.
Please report bugs, etc., through Discord and the bug-report channel.
A big thanks to Chugworth for a whole bunch of fixes.
Don't ask, i won't upload it with all the bitching.
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Yes the story can be fixed and it can even work, but I don't think it will be easy and I fear another light rework like SG.
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Disagree on fixing the issues. I think he introduced enough problems to ensure that this moronic plot is never gonna make sense outside mafia reasons territory. But the success is good to see. He was never gonna abandon WiAB and the last thing I wanted was for SG to be forever dragging along the corpse of this godawful game.
I'm still hoping Ocean makes millions and buys a mansion outside Germany with 30 workstations working 24/7. I want him coding in the kitchen, posing scenes in the bathroom, writing script in the bedroom and increasing boob/ass size on the sofa in the living room
The sky has indeed fallen for me but somehow I'm still alive and trying to get out from underneath all the rubble. I think this update established WiAB as good old F95 mainstream slop. Pretty slop but slop nonetheless. The sloppiest slop that ever slopped. Maybe the king of all slop
No longer will any WiAB fans try to stand all high and mighty above other slopfests like BaDIK, AWAM, WVM, Radiant, Summer Heat, FreshwomenSlops of a feather slop together.
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Ha, well I hope the same for the mansion with the server racks. We'll likely keep the banter about the mafia rules back and forth until the next update, at which point it will be further from ch3 and we'll have to add that into out head canon.Disagree on fixing the issues. I think he introduced enough problems to ensure that this moronic plot is never gonna make sense outside mafia reasons territory. But the success is good to see. He was never gonna abandon WiAB and the last thing I wanted was for SG to be forever dragging along the corpse of this godawful game.
I'm still hoping Ocean makes millions and buys a mansion outside Germany with 30 workstations working 24/7. I want him coding in the kitchen, posing scenes in the bathroom, writing script in the bedroom and increasing boob/ass size on the sofa in the living room
The sky has indeed fallen for me but somehow I'm still alive and trying to get out from underneath all the rubble. I think this update established WiAB as good old F95 mainstream slop. Pretty slop but slop nonetheless. The sloppiest slop that ever slopped. Maybe the king of all slop
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It's a dream or a nightmare? XDI'm still hoping Ocean makes millions and buys a mansion outside Germany with 30 workstations working 24/7. I want him coding in the kitchen, posing scenes in the bathroom, writing script in the bedroom and increasing boob/ass size on the sofa in the living room
Shit! Now we're more inconsistent than Radiant.
I had a doubt about one thing so I checked, but why exactly would Scarlet be upset about her husband's life of crime now?
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That he got caught, making him a second rate hood - or she secretly is jealous Helen gets to run things while she has to scheme.
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I think, I interpret, that she's really just upset with the alleged weapons and for losing his mind and almost killing the Krayt.
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I’ve only played the reworked Steam version...
Which part exactly has changed???