VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[CheekyGimp]

Ace the problem is that it is the same issue you guys had in episode 19 with the Lily/Debbie thing. Even though the option to leave is there it's not clear enough for some people that nothing happened and people are paranoid when it's not made clear what happened.

Can't make it clear what happens when you're not around because....you weren't around. If we added an explanation to each choice (e.g. " if you do this then xxxx is going to dump you in 2 episodes" OR "If you choose this option, this will cause yyyy to happen in the final episode") - it would make the game pretty boring and we might as well remove the choices and ALWAYS make the "best" ones for you. We want the player to have some dilemmas when making choices (and not knowing the outcome immediately helps create the dilemma)

 

[sandstorm1872]

If that't what YOU imagined happened in there (nothing shown) then that is in YOUR head. Don't hold the devs accountable for how your brain works!

The girls won't always do exactly what they are told. Also (similar to the MC), they may not always tell the truth (we know at least one of them is lying). Each girl has their own limits, loyalties, likes, dislikes and their own moral compass (that may not always match up with your MCs).
- If you want a female that does exactly what you say ALL the time and doesn't have a mind of her own, then this game isn't going to be your cup of tea but there are plenty of slave-trainer games out there.

Also, one thing I know (based on my GF and exes) the one sure way to piss a real woman off (and in most cases result in them doing the opposite) is to "insist" on them doing something. If I ever insisted that my GF did something that she didn't want to....I'd sleep with one eye open that night. But hey, I like an independent woman, not some stepford drone.

I'm yet to play this update but I can't appreciate the realism of relations that are present in the gameplay enough. That's what makes it appealing and interesting to keep going.

Thanks

 

[CheekyGimp]

Will episode 19 and 20 content be added to the gallery soon or do we have to wait for the next episode

No plans at the moment to update the gallery. Not sure we'll continue with this feature at all as it takes a lot of work. We're putting the effort into stuff like the jump-to-any-episode feature instead.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Cannot believe I mixed up Sandor and Gregor!

 

[Deleted member 15555]

CheekyGimp Is possible to start all over the game and remain only friends with all the girls? My saves are very old and I have most saves going for many of them... so I don't really know if you changed that so that we can start all over again and only be friends with them and (not romantically involved) .
After this update I can say for sure I will prefer to just go for certain girls (mostly solo or 2 girls but no more than that since it seems like a pain in the ass now that we have to choose, when the game started it kinda pushed you to pursue many girls and after chapter 13 or so that you clearly stated no harem possible many of us have some fucked up saves ).
(Hate you cheeky )

 

[NIKI87]

This is not an incest game.

there was an incest patch with previous episodes.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

there was an incest patch with previous episodes.

An unofficial fan-made patch because this was never an incest game.

 

[Rinbael]

Can't make it clear what happens when you're not around because....you weren't around. If we added an explanation to each choice (e.g. " if you do this then xxxx is going to dump you in 2 episodes" OR "If you choose this option, this will cause yyyy to happen in the final episode") - it would make the game pretty boring and we might as well remove the choices and ALWAYS make the "best" ones for you. We want the player to have some dilemmas when making choices (and not knowing the outcome immediately helps create the dilemma)

I agree with you Cheeky. I'm not really interested in Jo or Jenna so I was fine just leaving and waiting in the car for Jenna but for some people who are romancing her as you can see they end up with the wrong idea if they choose to leave. I had the same problem with the Lily/Debbie stuff last episode till you guys added more options for the Lily solo path(thank you very much for that by the way).

 

[CheekyGimp]

yeah and the punishment isn't even bad considering you can either have some fun with both of them or choose to go home with Jenna there definitely isn't any N** or c**k stuff like some1 tried to claim

Bailz and Avaron1974 can be considered unofficial spokes-people for the game. They speak sense (and are usually spot on with the craziness inside my head). I endorse their message!

 

[OfficiallyGames]

Hope someone will create a gallery mod then if the gallery is not gonna be upated. I really want to see which content i missed out on without playing each routes.

 

[MaxxM]

I understand your point of view of knowing this to break in another previous moment, but that would not be logical. If she does something now (stay with Jolina) that I dislike, the logical thing is to break up with her at that moment to hide what happened with Jolina. To break in an earlier time by what happens now is to have powers of divination. Always speaking from the point of view of what you perceive as a mc, not as a player
And as mc what you know is that your girl has preferred to stay in a tense sexual situation with another person instead of listening to you and leaving together.
That a seemingly peaceful game of romance also begins with these things is already worrying.

You formulated this far better than I. Thank you! Althoug I would have wanted to breakup with

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Jolina haven't been my LI

 

[m4pII]

Nice update)
The scene with Natasha is just great. Especially the look on Roger's face when he sees it)

 

[CheekyGimp]

CheekyGimp Is possible to start all over the game and remain only friends with all the girls? My saves are very old and I have most saves going for many of them... so I don't really know if you changed that so that we can start all over again and only be friends with them and (not romantically involved) .
After this update I can say for sure I will prefer to just go for certain girls (mostly solo or 2 girls but no more than that since it seems like a pain in the ass now that we have to choose, when the game started it kinda pushed you to pursue many girls and after chapter 13 or so that you clearly stated no harem possible many of us have some fucked up saves ).
(Hate you cheeky )

There is a Start-any-episode option where you can join the game at any episode and customize the relationship status with any of them and continue on from there.

 

[CheekyGimp]

CheekyGimp Is possible to start all over the game and remain only friends with all the girls? My saves are very old and I have most saves going for many of them... so I don't really know if you changed that so that we can start all over again and only be friends with them and (not romantically involved) .
After this update I can say for sure I will prefer to just go for certain girls (mostly solo or 2 girls but no more than that since it seems like a pain in the ass now that we have to choose, when the game started it kinda pushed you to pursue many girls and after chapter 13 or so that you clearly stated no harem possible many of us have some fucked up saves ).
(Hate you cheeky )

I didn't really answer your question...So...in addition to the Start-any-episode option we are re-doing our earlier episodes. We are improving the art and will add more options too. Not sure yet when these update episodes will be released...

 

[acewinz]

Bailz and Avaron1974 can be considered unofficial spokes-people for the game. They speak sense (and are usually spot on with the craziness inside my head). I endorse their message!

Just watch out for that Ace guy, he is usually delusional and just here for misinformation.

 

[Hovic]

HI there walkthought for this version please

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Cheeky felt when he started WTHI that allowing (encouraging as you put it) people to cheat and avoid getting caught was not only desirable by most, but necessary from a design perspective until we came out with the quickstart so people didn't have to replay a huge game if they didn't get the girl after playing around.

I don't understand. If you're saying that this game was originally designed to allow for and encourage players to be with multiple girls without much risk, then why is the game now going to be so punishing to players that do that? Because surely that means you're punishing players for playing the game the way it was intended to be played. How is that good game design?

 

[MaxxM]

I agree with you Cheeky. I'm not really interested in Jo or Jenna so I was fine just leaving and waiting in the car for Jenna but for some people who are romancing her as you can see they end up with the wrong idea if they choose to leave. I had the same problem with the Lily/Debbie stuff last episode till you guys added more options for the Lily solo path(thank you very much for that by the way).

MC even tries to ask what happened but only gets taunted for it .

 

[marcomonte]

An unofficial fan-made patch because this was never an incest game.

Yup, it was fan made by one of the skilled heroes here. Last time it took him 2 weeks, so make sure to re-visit

 

[acewinz]

I don't understand. If you're saying that this game was originally designed to allow for and encourage players to be with multiple girls without much risk, then why is the game now going to be so punishing to players that do that? Because surely that means you're punishing players for playing the game the way it was intended to be played. How is that good game design?

We've always shoehorned in fallouts if the MC cheated and didn't manage to lie his way out of it. You can only juggle things like that for so long. Now that some payments may be coming due near the end, we still gave you an out with the quickstart.