VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Construct]

Lily says "Is it bad that i sort of like you more than the girl stuff last night?" "its just i dont want to disappoint Debbie" "And you dont mind that im sorta into girls a little?" "But im definitely into boys a LOT more."

WTF? She chooses boys only and no girl girl anything happened and i get this dialog?

I just checked the script for that. The text you mentioned is triggered when you had a 3/4some in episode 19. There is no check if you encouraged girl on girl action or not. Since I encouraged girl on girl stuff I can‘t say if Lily interacts with Debbie or Katie in any way if you don‘t and if that would make the mention of girl stuff plausible by Lily.

So, no, your game is not broken. It might be something the devs overlooked though. Then again, did absolutely no girl stuff happen that Lily could reference?

 

[Ariostebaldo]

Some people talk about Katie and her girl friends like the mere idea of friends being able betray each other is something out of this world.
Anyone can act behind your back and deception can happen in any kind of relationship. If lovers and family can betray you, why not your friends?
And the shitty thing about betrayal is that you never expect "that person" to do it to you.

Ohh... And I'd like to add that arguing that Lily and Debbie only did things with the MC because him and Katie wasn't official don't change the fact that both girls wanted to keep it a secret from Katie. They were doing it behind Katie's back, in other words, they were deceiving Katie, one can see it as betrayal.
Don't get me wrong, Lily and Debbie are in the top 5 LI in this game, specially Lily, but they did what they did.

Like my mom used to say when I was a kid: if you want to hide what you're doing, it means you know you're doing something wrong.

But sorry to keep dwelling about it, I gonna stop now...

 

[Construct]

Like my mom used to say when I was a kid: if you want to hide what you're doing, it means you know you're doing something wrong.

Is masturbating wrong though?

 

[Ariostebaldo]

Is masturbating wrong though?

In front of your mom? YES!

 

[zombhunt]

No absolutely no girl on girl anything happened when you chose the boys only option. Thats why the dialog makes no sense to talk about something that never happened.

go to the scene and chose boys only and see what i mean. Debbie is sad but accepts it and focuses on the MC instead.

 

[Construct]

acewinz
Check those quotes out. Might be a continuity issue. Happens during the lily talk in episode 20.

Lily says "Is it bad that i sort of like you more than the girl stuff last night?" "its just i dont want to disappoint Debbie" "And you dont mind that im sorta into girls a little?" "But im definitely into boys a LOT more."

WTF? She chooses boys only, she flat out turned Debbie down and no girl girl anything happened and i get this dialog?

Its the simple fact it doesnt reflect the events that happened and feels out of place, making it feel broken.

I just checked the script for that. The text you mentioned is triggered when you had a 3/4some in episode 19. There is no check if you encouraged girl on girl action or not. Since I encouraged girl on girl stuff I can‘t say if Lily interacts with Debbie or Katie in any way if you don‘t and if that would make the mention of girl stuff plausible by Lily.

So, no, your game is not broken. It might be something the devs overlooked though. Then again, did absolutely no girl stuff happen that Lily could reference?

 

[Ariostebaldo]

No absolutely no girl on girl anything happened when you chose the boys only option. Thats why the dialog makes no sense to talk about something that never happened.

go to the scene and chose boys only and see what i mean. Debbie is sad but accepts it and focuses on the MC instead.

It's only a few lines. Just do as I do with half comments on this forum: ignore and pretend you didn't read it!

 

[zombhunt]

well i wonder if the game is going to make it seem as though they are together now and break my version of the narrative, if it doesnt know it didnt happen with that conversation then maybe it wont know it didnt happen later on down the story.

and why does it keep saying stats are merged and yet on mine they are still separate?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Is masturbating wrong though?

You where hiding that!?

 

[Dragon59]

Like my mom used to say when I was a kid: if you want to hide what you're doing, it means you know you're doing something wrong.

But sorry to keep dwelling about it, I gonna stop now...

...before you go blind?

Is masturbating wrong though?

In front of your mom? YES!

Hmmm... if that is how you feel, you might not be a good fit on these forums, given all the motherfucking perverts here.

 

[UncleFredo]

Ohh... And I'd like to add that arguing that Lily and Debbie only did things with the MC because him and Katie wasn't official don't change the fact that both girls wanted to keep it a secret from Katie. They were doing it behind Katie's back, in other words, they were deceiving Katie, one can see it as betrayal.
Don't get me wrong, Lily and Debbie are in the top 5 LI in this game, specially Lily, but they did what they did.

Like my mom used to say when I was a kid: if you want to hide what you're doing, it means you know you're doing something wrong.

But sorry to keep dwelling about it, I gonna stop now...

Or maybe since Katey and the MC weren't exclusive the girls didn't feel the need to share. The female version of a gentleman never tells. Hiding is if Katey asks if they've had sex with the MC and they lie.

 

[Ariostebaldo]

In front of your mom? YES!

Hmmm... if that is how you feel, you might not be a good fit on these forums, given all the motherfucking perverts here.

wouldn't be my first wrong doing...

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[Ariostebaldo]

Or maybe since Katey and the MC weren't exclusive the girls didn't feel the need to share. The female version of a gentleman never tells. Hiding is if Katey asks if they've had sex with the MC and they lie.

No. If they don't tell, it's hiding. If Katie asks and they lie, it's a lie.

There's an old saying liars use to say: "I don't lie, I just hide some details"

Hiding and lying sometimes have the same effect.

 

[UncleFredo]

No. If they don't tell, it's hiding. If Katie asks and they lie, it's a lie.

There's an old saying liars use to say: "I don't lie, I just hide some details"

Hiding and lying sometimes have the same effect.

We have no background on the level of conversations between them about with whom they've been sexually intimate. Katey was after all a virgin. There is no basis in the their revealed relationships to suggest that they compare notes about who they've fucked. Hell there is no scene anywhere in the game where any of these girls compare notes about any man. Without a foundation that the girls would share such details about other men, there is no reason to expect they'd do so about the MC.

NOT HIDING...

 

[BeingADikDik]

We have no background on the level of conversations between them about with whom they've been sexually intimate. Katey was after all a virgin. There is no basis in the their revealed relationships to suggest that they compare notes about who they've fucked. Hell there is no scene anywhere in the game where any of these girls compare notes about any man. Without a foundation that the girls would share such details about other men, there is no reason to expect they'd do so about the MC.

NOT HIDING...

Depends on which path MC takes. If MC tells Lily he wants her as his girlfriend, then MC (and Lily) hide that from Katie even after she declares her love for MC / MC reciprocates. Similar for Debbie. In this case, Debbie and Lily are hiding the nature of their relationships with MC from Katie, which is dishonest. However, after the foursome, this is somewhat understandable in that they hope to convince Katie to enter into a poly-amorous relationship. Does this mean they are bad people? Not really, IMHO.

 

[Ariostebaldo]

We have no background on the level of conversations between them about with whom they've been sexually intimate. Katey was after all a virgin. There is no basis in the their revealed relationships to suggest that they compare notes about who they've fucked. Hell there is no scene anywhere in the game where any of these girls compare notes about any man. Without a foundation that the girls would share such details about other men, there is no reason to expect they'd do so about the MC.

NOT HIDING...

Yeah, the information that you are fucking the guy who lives with your friend and for whom you know she has a crush is not at all relevant. They just forgot to mention it, it's not like they were hiding... They weren't hiding, not at all...

 

[Dragon59]

No. If they don't tell, it's hiding. If Katie asks and they lie, it's a lie.

There's a recent scene in Sunshine Love where S is asked "Have you seen [a person]?"
Since she promised not to give away the person's location, she honestly replied, "I can't say that I have."

 

[Ariostebaldo]

There's a recent scene in Sunshine Love where S is asked "Have you seen [a person]?"
Since she promised not to give away the person's location, she honestly replied, "I can't say that I have."

That's smart I guess, I'll remember that one. But the other person would still feel deceived.

 

[Dan02]

During the beach house scene if you allow debbie to express her love for lily and after that when Mc choose to stay there see their kissing they will stop and from where starts group sex route but if we avoid it girls we say you are no fun something like that and after time skip mc has a chance to choose lily and deby solo and also katie i didnt played lily route so i dont know where and how dialogue is but choosing Debbie solo it came up with interesting dialogue and we came to know other side of her for Mc that is sweet and grotto cave private talk behind beach house is rather amazing and after that event ends with sealing the deal for date with debbie.. In start katie was emotionally outburst with mc but lily was understanding thats nice of her and i will continue to play more route and get the save done but for me solo route with any of girl would be main saves here .

 

[Dirty_Dan]

Just downloaded this game over the weekend. Man, this has one of the best stories I've ever played. Really love the dynamics of the characters and I'm impressed how all of these characters are being handled.

Gotta say though, I'm on Chapter 18 and I'm over here looking like this with these girls:

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Game got me feeling bad playing with so many hearts and I'm just waiting for the big come down.