VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[CheekyGimp]

Indeed, i totally agree. Yet what we are playing here is an Agatha Christie kind of mystery story, where clues and red herrings are seeded all across the plot for the "reader" to try to solve the mystery along.
I think Cheeky is doing that and he's doing that quite well. Then yes, piece of information like Angel having a rich jerk ex or Bella providing rumors that might be intentionally false can be unrelated to the "find Dizzy" plot, yet, in the economy of the story they are there to make the "reader" consider whether either of the characters might be up to something. And if one of such clues is intentionally misleading, you have a so called red herring, which is a lecit part of the deal.

This isn't going to be one of those endings that come out of left field and where every clue was a red herring. If you look and listen ( yes, I'm aware there's no sound...I'm talking about the MC listening) closely....you've already been given enough info to figure it out. Plus enough useless info to make figuring it out more difficult.

 

[CheekyGimp]

I’m just replaying through the game and I’m remembering how totally jarring

Spoiler: Katie’s first time

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So, is there some way to avoid having sex with Katie at that specific point? Like having less points with her or is it some choice I made that I didn’t realize?

Yeah, agreed. I didn't do that scene justice and it was rushed. Will be fixed when we finally get around to the redux version

 

[CheekyGimp]

1) the game allows you to date/fuck basically every female in the game, and develop relationships with most of them concurrently and simultaneously
2) BUT if any of them find out about the other women*, that relationship(s) is shut down permanently
3) In fact, simply being honest about dating other women can shut down many of the MCs relationships
4) BUT, if you're faithful to only one woman, you miss 90% of the game content and it's harder to advance the main storyline

In that context, what would constitute a "happy ending" in this game? You "pick" one love interest to stick with, and disappoint/piss off the other 13 or 14?
It feels like the devs have either painted themselves into a corner, or set a kind of trap/dilemma for the players.

Have to disagree with this. So far....

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[CheekyGimp]

from a legal standpoint a private person is robing an other private person of his freedom where in the world is that legal ? but in this fictional land you have legal slavery thru blackmail but i think it does take place on planet earth so the protection of marriage counts

It's not robbing him of his freedom. He is free to see who he wants but if he wants to see Monica, he doesn't get the money. No freedom removed unless MC chooses to give up this freedom. At the moment, the money is still under MC's father (or his lawyer's) control. MC is free to see who he wants. However...if the MC willingly declares he will not see Monica and the girls, then he will be paid for this choice. If he doesn't want to give up his freedom and decides he wants to continue to see Monica and the girls, then the father has decided he will NOT be paid.

 

[acewinz]

No build for Linux? That's really unfortunate

There is on our patreon.

 

[Deleted member 4440769]

Have to disagree with this. So far....

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Will we be able to have a satisfying, beautiful, romantic and dignified ending with all the girls in the game individually? I love novels and I would love it if there were these kinds of endings, if you put a character into the game and you don't put a romantic ending with her, it's a waste of character and effort put into that character.

 

[acewinz]

Will we be able to have a satisfying, beautiful, romantic and dignified ending with all the girls in the game individually?

That is the plan. If you play your cards right.

 

[keefer43]

Have to disagree with this. So far....

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Until those bastard artists ahem perfectly fine gentlemen make some interesting plot twist all the CARDS COME CRASHING DOWN.

 

[Deleted member 4440769]

That is the plan. If you play your cards right.

Good to know, I hope it's not complicated to get a good ending and that don't have trap choices

 

[Machete]

where every clue was a red herring.

I wasn't implying that every clue is, but i'm positive some of them are and i was trying to sort them out. In the end i'm rather dumb on mystery stories I got my list of suspects though.

 

[Scorpius888]

It's not robbing him of his freedom. He is free to see who he wants but if he wants to see Monica, he doesn't get the money. No freedom removed unless MC chooses to give up this freedom. At the moment, the money is still under MC's father (or his lawyer's) control. MC is free to see who he wants. However...if the MC willingly declares he will not see Monica and the girls, then he will be paid for this choice. If he doesn't want to give up his freedom and decides he wants to continue to see Monica and the girls, then the father has decided he will NOT be paid.

its still ilegal and not posible under the law i wil give you a legal example in the EU when you want to rent a home and the owner puts no pets alowed in the rent contract that does not mean you cant get a pet in your home even if you signed that contract becous it violates internatial human rights laws of privacy and personal freedom so the courts can not enforce the contract becouse that clouse is illegal nice game btw i realy like the jokes with the restorant guy

 

[Mojumbo64]

Always hard to say, since depends on paths you follow and content you miss if do not, but if you can get through this game within 5 hours without skipping text and almost all scenes I would be pretty surprised. If you start playing different paths and such as well, you should easily be busy for over a day or days.

So it is solely depends on what paths I follow, I see. So if I chose the paths that I'm interested in, it would be short as heck.

Always hard to say, since depends on paths you follow and content you miss if do not, but if you can get through this game within 5 hours without skipping text and almost all scenes I would be pretty surprised.

To only read the things that really mattered to me will be a plus since it will shorten the time that I would possibly spend in the game.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Spoiler: Episode 21 - The Girls

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I agree that I liked being able to go beyond Bella's suggestion and still ask Elaine for an explanation, but how the situation is resolved is unclear to me.

we don't know exactly what MC tells him, but inteoria should have told him about how Monica contacted him only after receiving an email that he had never written and that looking for the author of this email they found Jolina's coffee shop and from her they then obtained the film.

there is no foul play towards Elaine (i.e. actually Mc plays foul with her but not on this matter), so her accusation that MC deceived her doesn't make much sense, it seems like an accusation thrown simply not to answer the accusation.

Also the defense that she could have sent the email from her home is a very weak defense, Mc's own story shows that if she had done so it would have been even easier to trace her and disguise her in the case.

The eternal justification that agitated people say nonsense is always valid, but beyond that I don't see much sense in it.

besides, personally, i still maintain that the fact that it was Elaine who sent an a mail to all because MC's acquaintances welcomed him is not significant, it doesn't put Elaine on the bad side nor on the good one

 

[DA22]

So it is solely depends on what paths I follow, I see. So if I chose the paths that I'm interested in, it would be short as heck.

To only read the things that really mattered to me will be a plus since it will shorten the time that I would possibly spend in the game.

It will not really be short as hell, there really is a shit load of content, but if you also use skip text and scenes it can become short and yeah if you close every girl from start or combination, you will miss out on loads. There are quite a few girls after all.

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

I recently did a Debbie only run and I found it to be very disappointing.

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It's a shame that the route is so bad, because Debbie was an early favourite of mine and I was hoping that her route could be the main one I played now that Katie has been heavily flanderized. Jenna's route was very tempting up until her creepy voyeurism got out of hand, so I'm slowly running out of options here. At this rate, my final choice for true love will be a big bag of money.

 

[Deleted member 396172]

could someone make a mod gallery something nice easy to navigate not complicated one ?

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

At this rate, my final choice for true love will be a big bag of money.

Perhaps this is the correct choice when it comes down to it....

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[JackMiejov]

As long as the writer(s) can manage the same level of humorous entertainment as the rest of the game, bring it on.

At this rate, my final choice for true love will be a big bag of money.

Not a bad choice, if my MC's man-whoring days come crashing down, he's taking the money and Wanda.

 

[ename144]

I'm glad someone played the

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I enjoyed writing that part even though I figured most people would avoid it, but thought some might just play it to see how the girls would interact in that event.

I did want to interject some on your

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its still ilegal and not posible under the law i wil give you a legal example in the EU when you want to rent a home and the owner puts no pets alowed in the rent contract that does not mean you cant get a pet in your home even if you signed that contract becous it violates internatial human rights laws of privacy and personal freedom so the courts can not enforce the contract becouse that clouse is illegal nice game btw i realy like the jokes with the restorant guy

You are correct that an illegal contract is not enforceable. But, while I am not a lawyer, I don't see anything illegal about Donald's will. This is a state matter, but as far as I'm aware family members are not inherently entitled to an inheritance in any of the US states, or even under English common law. They have claims by default, but a valid will would override those claims. A wife would be a bit different, but the MC's mom is dead and AFAIK Elaine didn't actually marry Donald.

Donald could legally leave the MC with nothing if he so chooses. Likewise he can set up whatever hoops he wants, and it's then up to the MC to decide if he will jump through those hoops. If the MC agrees to the hoops in writing, he cannot then object to the terms he agreed to.

Well, I suppose he can, lawyers do love their billable hours after all. But it would be nearly impossible to convince a judge to waste time on such a case (unless the MC was claiming the terms were misrepresented or something like that).

 

[felicemastronzo]

I recently did a Debbie only run and I found it to be very disappointing.

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It's a shame that the route is so bad, because Debbie was an early favourite of mine and I was hoping that her route could be the main one I played now that Katie has been heavily flanderized. Jenna's route was very tempting up until her creepy voyeurism got out of hand, so I'm slowly running out of options here. At this rate, my final choice for true love will be a big bag of money.

I disagree...

it is MC who forces his hand, Debbie goes to him to ask for his help in coming forward with Lily, her eternal love, while at the same time declaring her sexuality, and she does it with Mc before everyone else.
It doesn't seem like the perfect time to declare himself... but Mc does it anyway, and it's not like he didn't know about Lily...

and in spite of the situation Debbie doesn't reject him, but she needs to get Lily out of her head, who has been her focus for a long time.

MC is looking for a complicated situation, he can't expect Debbie to be nicer than she is.

Of course at that point he goes to the opposite extreme, when even though MC initially says he doesn't want to help her, he ends up being ready to help her both in the evening at the beach house, but even goes so far as to offer to pay the girls for a spa stay in order to give them another chance... I would say that was a little too selfless...

From then on Debbie never pretends not to know how MC feels and always takes it into account, but at the same time she wants to understand if Lily is the right woman...

and at that point MC forces his hand again, understandably, but that's it, pulling down the curtain at the party (when Debbie has already told him that by kissing Lily she was actually thinking of him and that she basically chose him) declaring himself to Debbie in front of everyone.